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I bought MOBILETRON TPMS from Amazon and I took it to local Firestone tire place to have new tires and TPMS put on a 2005 crossfire, they could not program it with their Snapon device, so I end up buying their NAPA brand for 4 times the price and got it installed, they said they were able to program it, and I was watching them do it. But my TPMS light is still on and their master tech said I need to drive the car for 40 minutes until this resets.
No Crossfire Tire Pressure Sensors learn by driving! This is an absolute fact.
The original OEM sensor is triggered by a donut shaped magnet for learning. The car requires an appropriate scanner that can step through the learn procedure for each sensor with the PCM. The Chrysler DRBIII and Starscan can do that. Some forum members have purchased the aftermarket Witech clone software which can do it as well.
Some places can take an existing OEM TPMS, read the unique serial number on the sensor label, and then program a new type sensor as a clone. If the original OEM sensor was still working they could trigger it with a magnet and read it with a TPMS analyzer to get the serial number. There are a couple of risks to doing this. If the car requires a tire pressure relearn the cloning by itself will not work unless you have the appropriate scanner equipment to program the car to learn the sensors. Mixing sensor types would be confusing to someone trying to do the learn procedure and would require the two trigger methods.
The Firestone didn't know better and assumed it worked like most modern TPMS that can learn new sensors by driving. That worked to get you to pay and out the door. I do swap out tires and wheels on my Dodge Charger and it learns the sensors very quickly by itself.
My preference and recommendation is to go with the original OEM type:
[QUOTE=Toolman;932108]No Crossfire Tire Pressure Sensors learn by driving! This is an absolute fact.
The original OEM sensor is triggered by a donut shaped magnet for learning. The car requires an appropriate scanner that can step through the learn procedure for each sensor with the PCM. The Chrysler DRBIII and Starscan can do that. Some forum members have purchased the aftermarket Witech clone software which can do it as well.
Some places can take an existing OEM TPMS, read the unique serial number on the sensor label, and then program a new type sensor as a clone. If the original OEM sensor was still working they could trigger it with a magnet and read it with a TPMS analyzer to get the serial number. There are a couple of risks to doing this. If the car requires a tire pressure relearn the cloning by itself will not work unless you have the appropriate scanner equipment to program the car to learn the sensors. Mixing sensor types would be confusing to someone trying to do the learn procedure and would require the two trigger methods.
The Firestone didn't know better and assumed it worked like most modern TPMS that can learn new sensors by driving. That worked to get you to pay and out the door. I do swap out tires and wheels on my Dodge Charger and it learns the sensors very quickly by itself.
My preference and recommendation is to go with the original OEM type:
Schrader 20028 TPMS[/QUOTE
Using the OEM sensors means a trip to the dealer who may or may not what to do, you have the tools so you do not have to pay $100 + to get the configured.
It has been decided by some that the universal Schrader sensors are the best bet, just make sure that the tire store can set them up OK.
Yeah maybe not one of those national 2,200 Firestone Tire locations Atlanta_kid went to that told/showed him they programmed them and to drive the car for "40 minutes" to reset it.
Not knocking Firestone but this was a case where it didn't work out. Cloning the sensors is a viable option, and more so for owners that have had known working sensors, or that are replacing very old sensors that are still working.
Other factors complicate the situation and decision.
If the car was purchased used, and the tire pressure light has always been on, it's possible the sensors were replaced with used ones, or incorrect new ones, and never successfully paired to the car.
I found when testing the Foxwell scanner that attempting to do the tire pressure relearn it actually broke the sensors pairing to the car.
In these two "rare" cases cloning the sensor would not be successful.
I went to Chrysler dealer they saddled me with a wheel alignment and they put the TPMS in learn mode for free, I drove the car for couple of minutes TPMS light started to flash and configured itself and went away.
For my other cars, I am going to buy a TPMS cloning tool and just clone them and avoid all this hassle. I was looking to buy "Standard Ignition T55000 TechSmart TPMS Clone Tool" and looks like no one has it in stock, so I am leaning toward "Autel TS601 MaxiTPMS Tool with OBDII Code Reader and TPMS Sensor Relearn Reset Activate, ECU reprogramming" from Amazon which unfortunately is 3x price of T55000. Need to do more research.
Many thanks for the community feedback and help.
Last edited by Atlanta_kid; 11-06-2019 at 07:28 PM.
Hello All, I have used this forum more times than I can count on my 05 SRT-6. I thank all of you senior members and people that use this as a serious discussion platform for us that own these amazing vehicles. On to my first question ever asked here so bare with me. I would like to know if there is any way to trouble shoot the TMPS/ home link module? I will try to be short on what I am doing to get the TMPS system working correctly. I have replaced all the tire sensors with apparently the wrong ones so I have ordered and replacing the sensors with OEM ( 68406527AA). I have read here that only the DRB III tool can accomplish this task. I have already paid the stealership 180 to tell me that none of my sensors are transmitting. I am taking it back to them and paying another 180 to have them install the OEM sensors and try again. I have tried the magnet trick from this forum. This did not work. I believe my old sensors were bad. Thus I had a tire place put new ones(wrong ones) in with the new tires I bought and still no joy. If the stealership still can not tell me what is wrong after new sensor install how can I fix it myself. I have 20 years experience with electronics and have always repaired all my own vehicles and everything else I own including my SRT-6.
The worst place you can take it is to the dealership.
yes I’m a do it my self guy at all cost if possible.
I used this forum to base my what to do next.
My sensors are not original or oem when I bought the car in 17 and the TMPS light was on.
I had no sensor to learn to with aftermarket sensors.
My path forward at this point is install the new oem sensors and move forward with the dealership because they are the only ones in Norfolk VA I can find that has the right programmer.
Any help is appreciated.
Hello All, I have used this forum more times than I can count on my 05 SRT-6. I thank all of you senior members and people that use this as a serious discussion platform for us that own these amazing vehicles. On to my first question ever asked here so bare with me. I would like to know if there is any way to trouble shoot the TMPS/ home link module? I will try to be short on what I am doing to get the TMPS system working correctly. I have replaced all the tire sensors with apparently the wrong ones so I have ordered and replacing the sensors with OEM ( 68406527AA). I have read here that only the DRB III tool can accomplish this task. I have already paid the stealership 180 to tell me that none of my sensors are transmitting. I am taking it back to them and paying another 180 to have them install the OEM sensors and try again. I have tried the magnet trick from this forum. This did not work. I believe my old sensors were bad. Thus I had a tire place put new ones(wrong ones) in with the new tires I bought and still no joy. If the stealership still can not tell me what is wrong after new sensor install how can I fix it myself. I have 20 years experience with electronics and have always repaired all my own vehicles and everything else I own including my SRT-6.
Hi, I have used this tool and have been able to trigger and read my old and my replacement sensors with no issues (air pressure and temperature) I even used it on Honda and Nissan and friend's pickup truck..
with no need for the magnet (the magnet comes with this tool), the sensors on your wheels will go to sleep if the tires are not rotating to save battery this tool or the magnet will wake them up so they transmit. the "Autel TS601" is supposed to be able to program it, Autel has Chrysler Crossfire in its list, but it errors out when you try to save the TPMS serial numbers to the car computer, I called the support and they admitted it does not work for Crossfire since it is a mixture of Chrysler and Mercedes engineering , I also bought a DRB ||| tool for $135 to program my car myself but I am too chicken to mess with it, also after 4 months from changing into the new TPMS (about 100 miles of driving), the TPMS dash light went away, looks like the car finally started reading the sensors, If you do not want to spent the money to buy Autel TS601, I suggest just take it to a Firestone or some good tire place, they have TPMS reader they can check to see if your TPMS are transmitting, since all of your 4 replacements one are not working, you could have gotten an old batch of TPMS sensor that the battery is dead, My old ones have been out of the car for over one year, and I can still trigger them on my desk and read them, some folks had told me they only work if there is air pressure in the tire and on the sensor but my old one work fine out of the wheel.
Since you know electronics, there is one other option, the Autel company sells flushable TPMS sensor in 2 radio frequency (about $30 each), the original Mercedes TPMS sensor should have a paper sticker on them with the TPMS ID, with the Autel tool you can flash the new TPMS sensors with the IDs of your old sensors, once you put them on the car your computer will read the TPMS correctly since the IDs that the sensors are transmitting is the same as the one saved in the computer, that will work if your car computer for TPMS has not been messed with and you have the old IDs available. This is used in Canada where people have winter and summer tires, they flash them to be the same so when they change tires while their TPMS stays happy.
Hi, I have used this tool and have been able to trigger and read my old and my replacement sensors with no issues (air pressure and temperature) I even used it on Honda and Nissan and friend's pickup truck.. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1 with no need for the magnet (the magnet comes with this tool), the sensors on your wheels will go to sleep if the tires are not rotating to save battery this tool or the magnet will wake them up so they transmit. the "Autel TS601" is supposed to be able to program it, Autel has Chrysler Crossfire in its list, but it errors out when you try to save the TPMS serial numbers to the car computer, I called the support and they admitted it does not work for Crossfire since it is a mixture of Chrysler and Mercedes engineering , I also bought a DRB ||| tool for $135 to program my car myself but I am too chicken to mess with it, also after 4 months from changing into the new TPMS (about 100 miles of driving), the TPMS dash light went away, looks like the car finally started reading the sensors, If you do not want to spent the money to buy Autel TS601, I suggest just take it to a Firestone or some good tire place, they have TPMS reader they can check to see if your TPMS are transmitting, since all of your 4 replacements one are not working, you could have gotten an old batch of TPMS sensor that the battery is dead, My old ones have been out of the car for over one year, and I can still trigger them on my desk and read them, some folks had told me they only work if there is air pressure in the tire and on the sensor but my old one work fine out of the wheel.
Since you know electronics, there is one other option, the Autel company sells flushable TPMS sensor in 2 radio frequency (about $30 each), the original Mercedes TPMS sensor should have a paper sticker on them with the TPMS ID, with the Autel tool you can flash the new TPMS sensors with the IDs of your old sensors, once you put them on the car your computer will read the TPMS correctly since the IDs that the sensors are transmitting is the same as the one saved in the computer, that will work if your car computer for TPMS has not been messed with and you have the old IDs available. This is used in Canada where people have winter and summer tires, they flash them to be the same so when they change tires while their TPMS stays happy.
thank you for your input atlanta_kid!
ok let’s see if I can explain what has happened.
Unknowingly I got the sensors replaced with aftermarket ones. The ones I got will not talk to the DRB III tool.
so now I ordered oem ones to replace all at once.
I am aware of the two separate MHz frequencies that the crossfire can read.
I feel if the stealership will put all four new oem sensors in and program them for 180 like they quoted isn’t so bad.
Unless there is some one on here that will do all that work for cheaper if so I’m sold. I can’t find anyone that has the DRB III tool around here that will do it.
I have friends with the TS601 and the sensors are transmitting but at the wrong frequency and they will not learn to the tmps module.
I also had no oem sensors left in the car to copy the frequency off of.
I hope I have been informative of my situation on this particular problem with the srt.
I have multiple I will post on their threads in time and my repairs to capture the whole story.
Hi, I have used this tool and have been able to trigger and read my old and my replacement sensors with no issues (air pressure and temperature) I even used it on Honda and Nissan and friend's pickup truck.. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1 with no need for the magnet (the magnet comes with this tool), the sensors on your wheels will go to sleep if the tires are not rotating to save battery this tool or the magnet will wake them up so they transmit. the "Autel TS601" is supposed to be able to program it, Autel has Chrysler Crossfire in its list, but it errors out when you try to save the TPMS serial numbers to the car computer, I called the support and they admitted it does not work for Crossfire since it is a mixture of Chrysler and Mercedes engineering , I also bought a DRB ||| tool for $135 to program my car myself but I am too chicken to mess with it, also after 4 months from changing into the new TPMS (about 100 miles of driving), the TPMS dash light went away, looks like the car finally started reading the sensors, If you do not want to spent the money to buy Autel TS601, I suggest just take it to a Firestone or some good tire place, they have TPMS reader they can check to see if your TPMS are transmitting, since all of your 4 replacements one are not working, you could have gotten an old batch of TPMS sensor that the battery is dead, My old ones have been out of the car for over one year, and I can still trigger them on my desk and read them, some folks had told me they only work if there is air pressure in the tire and on the sensor but my old one work fine out of the wheel.
Since you know electronics, there is one other option, the Autel company sells flushable TPMS sensor in 2 radio frequency (about $30 each), the original Mercedes TPMS sensor should have a paper sticker on them with the TPMS ID, with the Autel tool you can flash the new TPMS sensors with the IDs of your old sensors, once you put them on the car your computer will read the TPMS correctly since the IDs that the sensors are transmitting is the same as the one saved in the computer, that will work if your car computer for TPMS has not been messed with and you have the old IDs available. This is used in Canada where people have winter and summer tires, they flash them to be the same so when they change tires while their TPMS stays happy.
I've got the Autel TS501 scanner tool and it works fine with my Crossfire & other Crossfires that I've synced the wheel sensors. I know on the TS501 scanner I have, there are 3 listings of the Crossfire depending on which model year you have. I've always used the correct model year listing & never had any issues saving the information on the scanner tool. I've even saved pictures of the screens & emailed them to owners so they would have copies of what was loaded into the TPMS module.
Last edited by dedwards0323; 05-27-2021 at 08:33 AM.
I've got the Autel TS501 scanner tool and it works fine with my Crossfire & other Crossfires that I've synced the wheel sensors. I know on the TS501 scanner I have there are 3 listings of the Crossfire depending on which model year you have. I've always used the correct model year listing & never had any issues savings the information on the scanner tool.
I don’t have the right sensors in car. Once I get compatible sensors in my car then I can flash them. Do you know anyone in the Norfolk VA area that will replace all 4 sensors and program them for under 180? If so I’ll do it so I don’t have to go back to the stealership!
Last edited by Doc78; 05-26-2021 at 08:28 PM.
Reason: Correct answer
Any reputable tire service center can replace your wheel sensors. But without someone nearby having the DRB tool (dealer or Crossfire Owner), getting the TPMS module uploaded with the wheels' sensor data is essentially impossible. You can buy a set of wheel sensors relatively inexpensive if you search both Amazon & eBay. Not sure I remember which Crossfire model you have but this set of 433 MHz sensors are pre-programmed and should be readable with a scanner tool.
(Note: OOPS - Just saw where your car is an SRT-6 version. Wheels sensors required are probably the 315 MHz versions. Autel sells wheel sensors capable of transmitting at either frequency.
) I wouldn't buy any sensors (other the Autel version) without them being pre-programmed before use - MHO) By the way, my car still has the original Schrader sensors on the Driver-Side and VDO REDI-Sensors on the Passenger-Side. My scan tool was able to read both.
Or another option is to just get the wheels sensors replaced and deal with the warning light on the dash. Bring your car to the Fall Tail of the Dragon weekend event in October at Fontana Dam, NC and I'll bring the tooling & software to load the wheel sensors into the TPMS module and clear the warning light.
Last edited by dedwards0323; 05-27-2021 at 08:45 AM.
thank you for your input atlanta_kid!
ok let’s see if I can explain what has happened.
Unknowingly I got the sensors replaced with aftermarket ones. The ones I got will not talk to the DRB III tool.
so now I ordered oem ones to replace all at once.
I am aware of the two separate MHz frequencies that the crossfire can read. I feel if the stealership will put all four new oem sensors in and program them for 180 like they quoted isn’t so bad.
Unless there is some one on here that will do all that work for cheaper if so I’m sold. I can’t find anyone that has the DRB III tool around here that will do it.
I have friends with the TS601 and the sensors are transmitting but at the wrong frequency and they will not learn to the tmps module.
I also had no oem sensors left in the car to copy the frequency off of.
I hope I have been informative of my situation on this particular problem with the srt.
I have multiple I will post on their threads in time and my repairs to capture the whole story.
That really is a very good price, for sensors & programming, whether from a dealer or any other capable tire shop. Discount Tire charged me $60 for a 2nd VDO wheel sensor when they checked my car (they were able to read the wheel sensors to identify which were bad - I came with one VDO sensor in-hand). But I wasn't charged for programming the TPMS because they couldn't do it with their tooling.
Last edited by dedwards0323; 05-27-2021 at 08:50 AM.
please help me to understand.
why not use this? https://www.banggood.com/IMars-T240-...q&SSAID=389818
i have it installed and works great! and so others use it with same results. easy to install, costs a fraction of these mentioned here...
thanks
or is this a horse of different color?
Last edited by phil alvirez; 05-27-2021 at 08:56 AM.
Strictly a personal preference to keep the factory OEM system fully functional instead of using an aftermarket system. But I am interested in using a system like this on vehicles that don't have a factory TPMS system. I've got 2 vehicles I'm considering for this.
Last edited by dedwards0323; 05-27-2021 at 09:00 AM.
dedwards0323,
Thank you for your reply and information. I am a I want the original systems to work kind of guy.
The TMPS Light was on when I bought her in 17. I had aftermarket sensors installed by a local tire store that will not talk to the TMPS/Homelink module. I have different make and models sensors in the fronts than the rears and none of them were ever mirrored nor will speak to the TMPS/Homelink module.
The way moving forward for my SRT for me is OEM sensors that I found on EBAY for like 69 apiece. Way Cheaper than the 140 the stealership wanted. The stealership quoted me only 180 to replace all four sensors and train them to the TMPS/homelink module using the DRB III tool.
I am to this point due to I could only get my buddies TS 601 to tell me that the aftermarket sensors were transmitting but not at the 315 or the 433 MGz required. to speak to my SRT.
None of mine were ever cloned to the original oem sensors. Just a big mess.
My new OEM sensors have shipped and will let all know the out come of round 2.
If the Stealership can/won't get to work this time I will do all I can to see you guys in October in NC with the oem sensors installed to see if we can get this done.
How to configure a new TPMS
Yeah maybe not one of those national 2,200 Firestone Tire locations Atlanta_kid went to that told/showed him they programmed them and to drive the car for "40 minutes" to reset it. 
