awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

Glad you found somthing that works, the ones I orderd dont look right but im going to check the number again. I orderd some fronts but im almost positive they wont work, the brackets dont seem to bend enough to me

 

I would like to get some for the front, all 4 but was thinking about just replacing the bushings with the same size and keeping the OEM bracket

 

Ok picked up a digital caliper and measured tonight. (Not clean, got dark :P)

04

Bushing (jacked up, rear tire off.)


Rear 19mm. I measured on the other side of the bushing and it was the same +- .1


Front just as a test 25mm. Measured other side of bushing as well, same as above.


Can that be right, or was 04 different?

 

no that seems right, 25mm front sway bar N/A, srt6 front sway bar 28mm. Bu the rear N/A sway bar is listed to be 15mm and the srt6 is 19mm.... strange.

 

Where did you see the 15mm number? I could never find anything official on the NA rear sway. Not complaints from me just wanted to make sure I wasn't crazy.

 

Unfortunately I am using other posts from previous threads I found in the search feature for the rear N/A sway bar. I can't find any official documentation on-line or here in our collection of manuals. I called the local chrysler parts department and they looke dup a 2004 model that only shows one part # for both the srt6 and N/A but the 2005 have two different part #'s. They were unable to help with specifics on the diameter of the rear sway bar on either......

 

Thanks for the info and legwork! All references I found on the board were ?? For the NA rear and nothing in manual as you said. Couldnt find anything for the r170 either. There was also a post here from an NA that swapped to SRT sways front and back and said he couldn't tell the difference in the rears side by side. The part number answer is the most promising at this point. I guess it is possible that 04 used 19 across the board and possibly changed in 05 for the limited/base model. Would be interested in somebody measuring an 05+ even with a different part number it could be 19.

That being said I ordered the same thing you guys found and will be putting them in before the dragon. Thanks!

 

Did the install, got them in there but the fit is not perfect. That being said on a test drive I feel like I could tell the difference, just a bit tighter overall.

Tools
Jackstands, Trusty MB Jack :: Jack rear end up
Torque Wrench, 21mm socket + Star lug thing thing :: Wheels off
Socket Wrench, extender, 13mm sockets - deep and regular, 13mm wrench :: Attacking sway nuts
14mm wrench, 1/4' hex :: MikeR sway link unhook.
nearest pliers i could find :: bending mount tab thing.


Jacked up wiped down ready to go. Standard procedure. Jack up front driver side, place stand on driver rear, jack pass front, stand pass rear.


Unhook swaybar link from both sides


twist sway up and out of your way, unclip wire holder from bracket (little tab sticking down) Use any combo of socket, extender, etc. to loosen mount nuts almost all the way off. Passenger side is worse than driver, lots of bars in the way.. (pictured is not a good way on that side) Once everything is loose you can bend the little tab at the top of the mounting point. I could not bend the back ones but doing the front one helped a bit.


Now that everything is loose take one side off completely. Lube up inside of bushing, spread and place onto bar with the slit facing the FRONT of the car. (pictured is incorrect) Slide bracket onto bushing and start the nut on the front side. You can pull the entire bar towards yourself to make things a bit easier. Once that is started head to the other side and get it to the same point.



Now the fun begins. The Bracket and Bushing are just a bit too big! Twist and push/pull the bar as needed to get the bracket onto the mounting bolts. The bracket that holds the wire is a pain to get back on as it was originally, I put them on backwards/whatever way was easiest. You can bend and play with the placement later. (I think I ended up on the opposite side as pictured) Once you get all 4 nuts started just tighten them all a bit at a time until everything is snug. Can take a bit of convincing and work.


Hook everything up and your back in business. (Drivers side looks better)

I think the biggest issue is the width of the inside of the bracket and the curvature at the base. The bolts are close enough together than the nuts are rubbing up against the bracket. Also because the bracket and bushing are a bit deeper they mount where the bar starts to curve. If they were offset a little towards the middle of the car (and straight part of the bar) i think they would fit much better.

Here is a my pretend mockup. (Nut size made up, bolt hole position taken from og bracket) Red dots are where the mounting bolts are and the white circle is the nut. The nuts are just a tad to close to the inside of the bracket because of bolt position.


If the bracket was drilled out like this I think it would go on better. The new holes would be facing the outside of the car so the bracket sits a little further back. That way the bushing would be on the straight part of the bar and not hitting the curve.


I have an 04 NA though, could be different?

 

I think you are right on here. I noticed that the radius of the bend of the sway bar starts before exiting the wider bushing too.

 

Great writeup, Airscape.

 

Is it an allusion or are the studs no longer parallel?

 

Half and half. The right one is angled a bit because of the issue I mentioned with the nut hitting the inside of the bracket. However it is not as bad as the picture makes it look, the angle of the camera exadurated the severity. After driving it seems to have settled a little better. (Looking at it through the wheel) car is in the shop today (into tomorrow) I will be taking that wheel off and inspecting to make sure nothing is looking too stressed. The driver side did not have this same issue but I prefer to use the ugliest side for pictures to not hide anything.

 

Ok, so I sent the old ones back for refund, but can not find the model number listed. Any chance you have a direct link?

 

Not sure I quite understand what you need. The original part # that I ordered that didn't work is listed in the first post on this thread. I still have them laying in the garage as it would cost just as much to ship them back as they cost.

I found links for the new ones here on a google search https://www.google.com/#q=energy+sus...w=1920&bih=918

 

anyone have any problems with the sway bar mount tearing loose from under the car? I am having some creaking and squeaking and have already replaced one sway bar adjustable rod end which I thought was the culprit but the noises still exist. I haven't noticed anything like the entire bracket mounting area cracking or anything yet..... The new sway bar bushings don't seam to have quieted the noises down either.

 

Jessejames,
I am having the same problem with my baby.. Squeaks and groans.. I am afraid to go under .
John

 

She sounds like a lot of fun.

 

Onehundred80,
That's funny, my wife just told me that riding with me was like a threesome..

 

I need to get under mine and take a look again. I have some new noises after the bushing install. It calmed down one of my squeaks but now I get a "pop" best I can describe is kind of like when a rock/whatever flings up into the wheel well. It is really noticeable in reverse, a normal speeds not so much. The drop added a lot of extra noises back there to begin with though.

My thoughts as of right now. Bushing bracket might not be tight enough and is slipping down a couple threads under load. Sway link not keeping enough load on the bar so it's going limpish/neutral and snapping back into place. Have to swap to winters soon so may play this weekend. Will stick camera back there again if I have to for video of wtf is happening, I'm still trying to grasp exactly how things are moving.