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Old 08-26-2010 | 09:36 PM
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if you cant read the wording "eibach" without standing on your head, they are on upside down.

Make sure the spring is seated in the groove in the lower control arm.

YOU DONT NEED NEW PADS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Something has clearly gone wrong with the spring install. Eibachs are shorter than stock springs, so even with a 5 dot pad the car will be lower. Yours is higher, either you got the wrong springs, they are on wrong, or the fronts and backs are flip flopped.
 
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Old 08-26-2010 | 11:57 PM
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I do understand this. Believe me, I've taken the front wheel off twice to check the part number and compared it to the Eibach instructions and specifications for front and back. And it is correct.

See the pictures I posted in my last post? I do not see anything wrong with the springs and the way they are fitted.

I have no idea what it possibly can be other than the pads. I will wait till like next wednesday and when there still is no significant "drop" I'll go back to the shop and show them the pictures of before and after, showing that something must be wrong, even if the springs have "settled", just to shut the shop boss up. I just paid to much money for this bs.

If some of you dont mind, I'll show him your cars aswell to show him how it should look and compare it to my monster truck.

Maybe the tech forgot to remove the old spring pads and added the springs with the new ones I gave them...they even called me and asked where the pads go..........

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Old 08-27-2010 | 08:57 AM
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That is a very good possibility. A quick way to check is to push down on the front of the car. If it's bouncy that's probably what happened. They could of also not tightened the front shocks down enough or the swaybar could be improperly installed.
 
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Old 08-27-2010 | 10:50 AM
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The old spring pads are hard to get out and if they were ... ahem ... clueless I'll bet they doubled them up. I can't even see my spring pads.

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Old 08-27-2010 | 11:21 AM
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WOW... that would be REALLY clueless.... I cant see my pads either...they fit all the way up in the seat and dont just pop out when you pull the springs.....

that could very well be the problem...... YIKES!!!
 
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Old 08-27-2010 | 01:22 PM
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Here'a a picture of the pad, and the dots...granted - its the rear - but the fronts are the same. Another pad would stick-out beyond the perch.

If the pads were doubled up - then the shop would have had to have extra sets in inventory... and you would have been charged....


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Old 08-27-2010 | 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Germany
they even called me and asked where the pads go..........

Thanks for the help
This is why I am doing it myself. Even if it takes me 2 days, better than this BS. Sorry to hear about the bad luck Germany, hopefully it will all sort itself out....
 
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Old 08-27-2010 | 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Infinite
That is a very good possibility. A quick way to check is to push down on the front of the car. If it's bouncy that's probably what happened. They could of also not tightened the front shocks down enough or the swaybar could be improperly installed.
But can this raise the front up?

Yeah, because they gave me all the old parts back, and there where only 2 pads in there, 1 5 dot and a 1 dot.

It seems bouncy, but I cant remember how it "bounces" when the stock springs. Oh well. Bringing it back next week and I'll show him that facts (comparing stock to "lowered") and other Crossfires.

This will be interesting...
 
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Old 08-27-2010 | 07:19 PM
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Something is definitely wrong, shame you werent near me as I would look over the install and fix the issue for you
 
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Old 08-27-2010 | 08:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Infinite
Something is definitely wrong, shame you werent near me as I would look over the install and fix the issue for you
Thank you , I appreciate it.

Of course I will update next week when I'll show the shop that nothing has changed, even after a week. I am very interested to see what it really is........
 
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Old 08-28-2010 | 08:12 AM
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Actually, my stock pads where dot 5 and dot 1. The rear has come down a bit, but the front is high in the air, like on the picture. Let me see if I can find something to measure with and give an exact distance.
that doesnt sound correct. was the car suspension played with before? you should have # 2 pads all around with oem springs. the pad #'s you have are for lowered supsension mods
 
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Old 08-28-2010 | 11:19 AM
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I had a 3 dot in the front and 1 in the rear stock.
 
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Old 08-28-2010 | 01:42 PM
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Yeah, I think everyone has a different spring pad set up.

I got 2 old spring pads backs, because I told them to replace the old springs pads with new dot 5 and dot 1's, which I gave them.
 
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Old 08-28-2010 | 03:39 PM
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I do not think any of the spring pads would raise the car like that. There is definitely something wrong with the install. Waiting for them to settle will be fruitless. It really seems like they are the wrong springs. Makes me wonder if the springs got miss stamped at the factory with the wrong part number. Good luck with getting it worked out.
 
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Old 08-28-2010 | 03:48 PM
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would be simple to determine if the right springs are in the car. measure them against the oem. should be shorter.
 
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Old 08-28-2010 | 04:04 PM
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While I would generally agree with you, the springs could be longer if the compression rate is different than the OEM springs.
 
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Old 08-28-2010 | 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by bmorgan
While I would generally agree with you, the springs could be longer if the compression rate is different than the OEM springs.
correct bob but we are talking eibachs. a ton of them out there to be foto'ed

my b&g are progressivlly wound and shorter than my oem's by a full coil. iirc eibachs arent progressive wound
 
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Old 08-28-2010 | 04:28 PM
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The Eibach's are longer than stock SRT springs. I have a picture and when I find it I'll post it here. Since Germany only got 2 old spring pads back I think they put the new ones on top of the old ones in the front. By the way, my SRT had dot 2 int the front and dot 3 in the rear from the factory.

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Old 08-28-2010 | 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by velociabstract
The Eibach's are longer than stock SRT springs. I have a picture and when I find it I'll post it here. Since Germany only got 2 old spring pads back I think they put the new ones on top of the old ones in the front. By the way, my SRT had dot 2 int the front and dot 3 in the rear from the factory.

Les
les do me a favor. measure the eibachs from the very top of the spring to the table. my 32 has eibachs as oem springs and i would like to know if they are the same
 
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Old 08-28-2010 | 04:36 PM
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Here's the link to my photo. This was with 3/4 coil cut from the stock spring beside the Eibach. Post No. 7.

I'll measure the Eibach's in a few minutes.

https://www.crossfireforum.org/forum...t-springs.html

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