C32 Brake upgrade
Re: C32 Brake upgrade
So guys, I'm gonna upgrade my front brakes to C32 Mercedes-Benz specifications. On the front right caliper I went with a BRAND NEW "AMG" labeled caliper from the Mercedes dealer for just $88. For the left front caliper I have 2 choices as I see it.
1) brand new "AMG" labeled caliper 002-420-19-83 $296.96 -OR-
2) Remanufactured no label 002-420-19-83 $97.81 CARDONE Part # P311-5B734BF Manu # 19-3165
So is having a BRAND NEW caliper with an "AMG" decal on the caliper to exactly match the one on the right worth an extra $200? That's the question. Or to get EXACTLY the same MB part number but Remanufactured and no label just fresh-silver paint yet save $200
So, save $200 and go remanufactured on one side? What say you? YES or NO
1) brand new "AMG" labeled caliper 002-420-19-83 $296.96 -OR-
2) Remanufactured no label 002-420-19-83 $97.81 CARDONE Part # P311-5B734BF Manu # 19-3165
So is having a BRAND NEW caliper with an "AMG" decal on the caliper to exactly match the one on the right worth an extra $200? That's the question. Or to get EXACTLY the same MB part number but Remanufactured and no label just fresh-silver paint yet save $200
So, save $200 and go remanufactured on one side? What say you? YES or NO
Re: C32 Brake upgrade
So guys, I'm gonna upgrade my front brakes to C32 Mercedes-Benz specifications. On the front right caliper I went with a BRAND NEW "AMG" labeled caliper from the Mercedes dealer for just $88. For the left front caliper I have 2 choices as I see it.
1) brand new "AMG" labeled caliper 002-420-19-83 $296.96 -OR-
2) Remanufactured no label 002-420-19-83 $97.81 CARDONE Part # P311-5B734BF Manu # 19-3165
So is having a BRAND NEW caliper with an "AMG" decal on the caliper to exactly match the one on the right worth an extra $200? That's the question. Or to get EXACTLY the same MB part number but Remanufactured and no label just fresh-silver paint yet save $200
So, save $200 and go remanufactured on one side? What say you? YES or NO
1) brand new "AMG" labeled caliper 002-420-19-83 $296.96 -OR-
2) Remanufactured no label 002-420-19-83 $97.81 CARDONE Part # P311-5B734BF Manu # 19-3165
So is having a BRAND NEW caliper with an "AMG" decal on the caliper to exactly match the one on the right worth an extra $200? That's the question. Or to get EXACTLY the same MB part number but Remanufactured and no label just fresh-silver paint yet save $200
So, save $200 and go remanufactured on one side? What say you? YES or NO
Re: C32 Brake upgrade
https://www.ezaccessory.com is the source for the spacer I used to put the front calipers on my SRT and NA, but remember they use different front hubs. the NA has the open hole and the SRT is the capped one. I need the 10mm to clear the NA, the SRT wheel would clear a 5mm one but the do not make one that thin that is "hub centric"
Also if you look at my former post you see where I painted my calipers, I used engine paint which is good to 500F. Buy AMG stickers off eBay and put the on, then get the clear engine paint and put on several coats, mine still look good, and my NA is a daily driver.
Dan
Also if you look at my former post you see where I painted my calipers, I used engine paint which is good to 500F. Buy AMG stickers off eBay and put the on, then get the clear engine paint and put on several coats, mine still look good, and my NA is a daily driver.
Dan
Re: C32 Brake upgrade
Billet Hub Centric Wheel Spacers Mercedes 10mm (Pair) Billet Hub Centric Wheel Spacers Mercedes
Our Price: $89.95 per pair
This is the one for the NA hub.
Dan
Re: C32 Brake upgrade
Billet Hub Centric Wheel Spacers Mercedes 10mm (Pair) Billet Hub Centric Wheel Spacers Mercedes
Our Price: $89.95 per pair
This is the one for the NA hub.
Dan
Re: C32 Brake upgrade
billet hub centric wheel spacers mercedes 10mm (pair) billet hub centric wheel spacers mercedes
our price: $89.95 per pair
this is the one for the na hub.
Dan
Don't Forget the Longer Lug Bolts!
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Re: C32 Brake upgrade
Each of the individual parts of a break calliper from a Mercedes have a Mercedes part number on it. That way various parts can be assembled together to form a different assembly that fits another car model.
why don’t we give the numbers of the parts? That way a calliper could be said to fit or not fit a particular model, someone says a C32 calliper when callipers from another model are identical.
why don’t we give the numbers of the parts? That way a calliper could be said to fit or not fit a particular model, someone says a C32 calliper when callipers from another model are identical.
Re: C32 Brake upgrade
Billet Hub Centric Wheel Spacers Mercedes 10mm (Pair) Billet Hub Centric Wheel Spacers Mercedes
Our Price: $89.95 per pair
This is the one for the NA hub.
Dan
5mm for NA HUB?
10mm for SRT HUB?
Re: C32 Brake upgrade
Re: C32 Brake upgrade
Each of the individual parts of a break calliper from a Mercedes have a Mercedes part number on it. That way various parts can be assembled together to form a different assembly that fits another car model.
why don’t we give the numbers of the parts? That way a calliper could be said to fit or not fit a particular model, someone says a C32 calliper when callipers from another model are identical.
why don’t we give the numbers of the parts? That way a calliper could be said to fit or not fit a particular model, someone says a C32 calliper when callipers from another model are identical.
20.7915.02 inner caliper housing 2 pistons with the brake-hose connection
20.7046.04 outer caliper housing 2 pistons with an "AMG" decal on it
20791402 is the bridge with the bleed-nipple in it. On the mounting-ear it has 345 cast into it (to be used with 345mm disc/rotor)
20791401 is the bridge without the bleed-nipple in it. On the mounting-ear it has 345 cast into it (to be used with 345mm disc/rotor)
NOTE: I have typed these part numbers EXACTLY as they appear on the caliper, with '.' or without... even though it doesn't make a hill of beans of difference.
It's HUGELY IMPORTANT that people match the diameter of their rotors to the number printed on the caliper's mounting-ears, as the larger that number the longer the mounting-ears will be to clear a larger rotor. You can easily imagine that a 330-caliper with a 345-rotor won't even fit together, whilst a 345-caliper with a 330-rotor will bolt together BUT a large portion of the brake-pads won't even be in contact with the rotor!
Last edited by WD40; 03-21-2020 at 06:49 PM. Reason: hard to read what the part number is
Re: C32 Brake upgrade
I'll be damned (simply an unfortunate fact) they darn sure do! OK then on a BRAND NEW (NOT rebuilt) right front C32 AMG caliper, Mercedes-Benz PART NUMBER 0024202083 that I ordered/received from a MB dealership the INDIVIDUAL MB part numbers are:
20.7915.02 inner caliper housing 2 pistons with the brake-hose connection
20.7048.04 outer caliper housing 2 pistons with an "AMG" decal on it
20791402 is the bridge with the bleed-nipple in it. On the mounting-ear it has 345 cast into it (to be used with 345mm disc/rotor)
20791401 is the bridge without the bleed-nipple in it. On the mounting-ear it has 345 cast into it (to be used with 345mm disc/rotor)
NOTE: I have typed these part numbers EXACTLY as they appear on the caliper, with '.' or without... even though it doesn't make a hill of beans of difference.
It's HUGELY IMPORTANT that people match the diameter of their rotors to the number printed on the caliper's mounting-ears, as the larger that number the longer the mounting-ears will be to clear a larger rotor. You can easily imagine that a 330-caliper with a 345-rotor won't even fit together, whilst a 345-caliper with a 330-rotor will bolt together BUT a large portion of the brake-pads won't even be in contact with the rotor!
20.7915.02 inner caliper housing 2 pistons with the brake-hose connection
20.7048.04 outer caliper housing 2 pistons with an "AMG" decal on it
20791402 is the bridge with the bleed-nipple in it. On the mounting-ear it has 345 cast into it (to be used with 345mm disc/rotor)
20791401 is the bridge without the bleed-nipple in it. On the mounting-ear it has 345 cast into it (to be used with 345mm disc/rotor)
NOTE: I have typed these part numbers EXACTLY as they appear on the caliper, with '.' or without... even though it doesn't make a hill of beans of difference.
It's HUGELY IMPORTANT that people match the diameter of their rotors to the number printed on the caliper's mounting-ears, as the larger that number the longer the mounting-ears will be to clear a larger rotor. You can easily imagine that a 330-caliper with a 345-rotor won't even fit together, whilst a 345-caliper with a 330-rotor will bolt together BUT a large portion of the brake-pads won't even be in contact with the rotor!
set that fits but knows it is not from a C32 say and looks for a C32 set, thereby wasting time and money.
Re: C32 Brake upgrade
All this realization of how these caliper parts can be reassembled incorrectly on a rebuild is a little scary. I am looking at the $97 left-front CARDONE rebuilt and although it LOOKS LIKE a proper left-front caliper the pictures are small and you can't read ANY of the part number on it. You can also tell that the paint on the 4 reassembled caliper parts DOESN'T MATCH, which doesn't give me the greatest of confidence. All in all it has me leaning towards buying that BRAND NEW AMG caliper from the Mercedes stealership! ??????????????????????????? F'ing choices! Am I right? :-)
Re: C32 Brake upgrade
All this realization of how these caliper parts can be reassembled incorrectly on a rebuild is a little scary. I am looking at the $97 left-front CARDONE rebuilt and although it LOOKS LIKE a proper left-front caliper the pictures are small and you can't read ANY of the part number on it. You can also tell that the paint on the 4 reassembled caliper parts DOESN'T MATCH, which doesn't give me the greatest of confidence. All in all it has me leaning towards buying that BRAND NEW AMG caliper from the Mercedes stealership! ??????????????????????????? F'ing choices! Am I right? :-)
I said he could make brownie points for himself if he informed his bosses that the data base was incorrect, he still insisted that it was the correct one, I hope he has changed jobs as he was a liability to Cardone.
Re: C32 Brake upgrade
I had trouble with Cardone, I purchased a master brake cylinder from them and what I received was not like the one for the Crossfire. I got in touch with them and they swore it was the correct one. I said to the guy that in my hands were two different configurations of the MC. The casting was correct but the number of ports and where they were located was different.
I said he could make brownie points for himself if he informed his bosses that the data base was incorrect, he still insisted that it was the correct one, I hope he has changed jobs as he was a liability to Cardone.
I said he could make brownie points for himself if he informed his bosses that the data base was incorrect, he still insisted that it was the correct one, I hope he has changed jobs as he was a liability to Cardone.
Re: C32 Brake upgrade
Thanks sharing the information and providing me with confirmation
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Re: C32 Brake upgrade
WD40,
hope you are staying healthy during these unique times.
Thanks for the reply on the c32 calipers.
I have the Mandrus wheels on my car and have a plus 1 setup 19f/20r staggered.
After reading throught this thread I think I am pretty clear on the options that I have and want to clarify:
C32 Calipers:
- I want to ensure that these are a direct bolt on with no fitment issues using our standard rotors?
- I saw spacers, but are these required? of is this only if were using stock wheels (I have an aftermarket Mandrus 19/20 setup)
- How much improvement did you see in braking and stopping power?
I am also looking at the C55 setup as well and do you know if this really is a bolton setup?
- You mentioned the 330mm discs - Does that mean I will need to change my rotors?
- what is the issue with the brake-line being stretched to the maximum?
- I like this option but just want to know if its as simple as a bolt on as well.
Thanks for all of the details that you have posted.
I am just trying to be clear as I start worknig on the right options for better brakes.
hope you are staying healthy during these unique times.
Thanks for the reply on the c32 calipers.
I have the Mandrus wheels on my car and have a plus 1 setup 19f/20r staggered.
After reading throught this thread I think I am pretty clear on the options that I have and want to clarify:
C32 Calipers:
- I want to ensure that these are a direct bolt on with no fitment issues using our standard rotors?
- I saw spacers, but are these required? of is this only if were using stock wheels (I have an aftermarket Mandrus 19/20 setup)
- How much improvement did you see in braking and stopping power?
I am also looking at the C55 setup as well and do you know if this really is a bolton setup?
- You mentioned the 330mm discs - Does that mean I will need to change my rotors?
- what is the issue with the brake-line being stretched to the maximum?
- I like this option but just want to know if its as simple as a bolt on as well.
Thanks for all of the details that you have posted.
I am just trying to be clear as I start worknig on the right options for better brakes.
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Thanks I guess my last question is for the CL55 (i think i erroneously said C55) is do I need to get different rotors to run these. They are the ones I really want to go with because of the size and ability to Grip!
https://www.ebay.com/itm/181-MERCEDES-S55-E55-CL55-AMG-03-06-BREMBO-FRONT-BRAKE-CALIPER-LEFT-RIGHT-SET/153836772091?_trkparms=aid%3D555018%26algo%3DPL.SI M%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D226054%26meid%3D439986665a3a4bc 996ead8aeaca51c48%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D 12%26mehot%3Dpf%26sd%3D223892268110%26itm%3D153836 772091%26pmt%3D1%26noa%3D0%26pg%3D2047675%26algv%3 DSimplAMLv5PairwiseWeb&_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1 851
I like the SLK55 look and wondered if there is any additional benefit to going bigger and better. Is there a posting out there with details on the SLK55 Mod. WD40's post had this one but Im not sure if I need to modify rotors or any other items:
https://www.benzworld.org/forums/r17...r170-sort.html
Thanks you all for your help. Love the forum and insights! Hope you all are staying well!
Nate
https://www.ebay.com/itm/181-MERCEDES-S55-E55-CL55-AMG-03-06-BREMBO-FRONT-BRAKE-CALIPER-LEFT-RIGHT-SET/153836772091?_trkparms=aid%3D555018%26algo%3DPL.SI M%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D226054%26meid%3D439986665a3a4bc 996ead8aeaca51c48%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D 12%26mehot%3Dpf%26sd%3D223892268110%26itm%3D153836 772091%26pmt%3D1%26noa%3D0%26pg%3D2047675%26algv%3 DSimplAMLv5PairwiseWeb&_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1 851
I like the SLK55 look and wondered if there is any additional benefit to going bigger and better. Is there a posting out there with details on the SLK55 Mod. WD40's post had this one but Im not sure if I need to modify rotors or any other items:
https://www.benzworld.org/forums/r17...r170-sort.html
Thanks you all for your help. Love the forum and insights! Hope you all are staying well!
Nate