'04 Coupe Liftgate lock failure
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My vacuum line was snapped in half at the boot that runs from the liftgate to the body. The previous owner looks like the took white electrical tape and wrapped the line to seal it, so now I am left to deal with it. I am currently in the middle of replacing the line that runs from the pump to the rear hatch lock and I am hung up on the line connections. The line slips over a fitting which snaps over a "T" before it goes to the pump. Does the line pull off the fitting or does that cap/fitting pull off the "T"? Next is the line that runs to the liftgate. It look like the line slips over an "L" fitting that connects to the lock. Now can this just be pulled out? I have applied light pressure to each of the fittings but no luck. I am trying to avoid breaking the plastic, creating a new repair. Ideas thoughts? The line is hanging and home free, I just need to remove it from its fittings. Thanks for the help in advance!
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Update: I snipped the line above the fittings and took a sharp blade, sliced the remaining and peeled it off. I am researching nylon, polyurethane, and polyethylene tubing at the moment. At this point I am leaning towards replacing the hatch tube with polyethylene tube due to its resilience when bending and flexing. Found a company that makes it in opaque yellow to match the stock tubing. Trying to keep everything as stock and clean as possible. When the job is finished I will try to post a tutorial with photos since this seems to be a big XF issue.
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In your original post you should explain exactly what is wrong and the symptoms.
I did not bother to open the thread initially as it looked like it was about a truck, I saw later it was the trunk.
Last edited by onehundred80; 06-27-2015 at 07:07 PM.
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Black Crossfire has not been on the forum since the end of October last year.
In your original post you should explain exactly what is wrong and the symptoms.
I did not bother to open the thread initially as it looked like it was about a truck, I saw later it was the trunk.
In your original post you should explain exactly what is wrong and the symptoms.
I did not bother to open the thread initially as it looked like it was about a truck, I saw later it was the trunk.
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Yes I have resolved the issue! It was rather simple. I removed the line by slicing it with a sharp blade and peeling it off the barbed fittings. I scoured the Mercedes forum looking for the actual tube used because there was no way I was paying 200 plus dollars for the cheap plastic tube from the dealer. You can find the tube here: http://www.autohausaz.com. Search for part number:
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Yes I have resolved the issue! It was rather simple. I removed the line by slicing it with a sharp blade and peeling it off the barbed fittings. After I removed the interior panels. I scoured the Mercedes forum looking for the actual tube used (in bulk) because there was no way I was paying 200 plus dollars for the cheap plastic tube from the dealer. You can find the tube here: http://www.autohausaz.com. Search for part number: 0001581435. I ordered 3 meters for under 10 bucks, right on! All you will need to install is a heat gun and some time. Reply if you have any further questions. I'll check to see if I have any photos of the tear down. Cheers!
Re: '04 Coupe Liftgate lock failure
Yes I have resolved the issue! It was rather simple. I removed the line by slicing it with a sharp blade and peeling it off the barbed fittings. I scoured the Mercedes forum looking for the actual tube used because there was no way I was paying 200 plus dollars for the cheap plastic tube from the dealer. You can find the tube here: http://www.autohausaz.com. Search for part number:
Re: '04 Coupe Liftgate lock failure
Yes I have resolved the issue! It was rather simple. I removed the line by slicing it with a sharp blade and peeling it off the barbed fittings. After I removed the interior panels. I scoured the Mercedes forum looking for the actual tube used (in bulk) because there was no way I was paying 200 plus dollars for the cheap plastic tube from the dealer. You can find the tube here: http://www.autohausaz.com. Search for part number: 0001581435. I ordered 3 meters for under 10 bucks, right on! All you will need to install is a heat gun and some time. Reply if you have any further questions. I'll check to see if I have any photos of the tear down. Cheers!
Re: '04 Coupe Liftgate lock failure
Yes I have resolved the issue! It was rather simple. I removed the line by slicing it with a sharp blade and peeling it off the barbed fittings. After I removed the interior panels. I scoured the Mercedes forum looking for the actual tube used (in bulk) because there was no way I was paying 200 plus dollars for the cheap plastic tube from the dealer. You can find the tube here: Auto Parts at AutohausAZ - OEM Auto Parts - Discount Replacement Parts, Resources and Car Care Tips. Search for part number: 0001581435. I ordered 3 meters for under 10 bucks, right on! All you will need to install is a heat gun and some time. Reply if you have any further questions. I'll check to see if I have any photos of the tear down. Cheers!
Another member here some years ago replaced all of the lines in his car and advised us to use something else, a different material altogether. If I recall correctly he worked in that business and wondered why they had used a material that failed so often. The material was OK for static use but could not take the flexing at the hatch. I'll see if I can find the post it was in.
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Another member here some years ago replaced all of the lines in his car and advised us to use something else, a different material altogether. If I recall correctly he worked in that business and wondered why they had used a material that failed so often. The material was OK for static use but could not take the flexing at the hatch. I'll see if I can find the post it was in.
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The material recommended is polyurethane not vinyl.
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This is just my opinion as I have never had to do it.
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Thanks for your response 180, hatch it is, ( tailgate or boot door here in UK. Two countries separated by a common language?). Not sure if the problem is a damaged lock mechanism or fractured vac line. Only had the car one week, door opened during my inspection but hasn't worked since. Air pump works AOK as do all other locks. Past experience tells me that small dia. poly pipe is a good substitute for yellow Merc tube. Any spray shop supply will have stock at little cost. I will post outcome once temp rises above freezing.
Re: '04 Coupe Liftgate lock failure
Thanks for your response 180, hatch it is, ( tailgate or boot door here in UK. Two countries separated by a common language?). Not sure if the problem is a damaged lock mechanism or fractured vac line. Only had the car one week, door opened during my inspection but hasn't worked since. Air pump works AOK as do all other locks. Past experience tells me that small dia. poly pipe is a good substitute for yellow Merc tube. Any spray shop supply will have stock at little cost. I will post outcome once temp rises above freezing.
I do not think the vacuum can be too much as the vacuum that can obtained with a small pump cannot be less than -14 psi. in theory and would not actually get that low in practice. Applying a vacuum with an oil extraction unit might just do it.
If I recall correctly it is pressure that locks the doors and a so called vacuum that opens them. If that is wrong then pressure would have to be applied instead of a vacuum.
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If it is the airline that has fractured my bet is it will have done so where the line enters the tailgate door as this is the only area that moves. If earlier threads are correct pressure does lock and vacuum opens. If fracture occurred after the lock was in a closed position, then as there is no vacuum to open it unless access to the line between lock and fracture or at the point of fracture is made, one would seem to be snookered. Hence my original question was the lining removable with the door closed.
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If it is the airline that has fractured my bet is it will have done so where the line enters the tailgate door as this is the only area that moves. If earlier threads are correct pressure does lock and vacuum opens. If fracture occurred after the lock was in a closed position, then as there is no vacuum to open it unless access to the line between lock and fracture or at the point of fracture is made, one would seem to be snookered. Hence my original question was the lining removable with the door closed.
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FYI, when searching factory manuals, the correct term is "Liftgate" (At least that is what I recall)