I think I may have been mistaken on the Euro Rev, I think SRT 6 is correct, and it was EVO that made the comments, about Crossfire owners being posers. They said we were all talk, we talk a great game about mods, however never make a purchase. I in some respects agree with the purchasing comment, and also understand that there are also a lot of lurkers just stirring up business for them selves, or for manufacturers they work for. Also there are lurkers that simply try to diffuse possible or inflame topics talked about. If I were a smart Lurker, I would at least post some pictures of there cars in there albums.

 

I was going to have upsolute do it, but there are things I want done that they don't do like the speed limiter and various other issues. I also have issues with them not doing the actual tune in house. I prefer someone that can do it start to finish and make changes as needed to fit your cars specific needs (when I go turbo, I will need a custom tune).

Joe

 

Thanks for the clarification Saskins and SRT. As for pictures, I hope that wasn't directed at me. I am not usually one to post pics unless asked, I dunno- just me lol. I have an 04' Graphite 6 speed and my wife has an 04' SSB. I got the "good one" though - hers is #3423 and has had almost every problem there is a TSB for AND doesn't shift fast worth a damn it high RPM's, my car shifts like butter at any RPM!! She got the Monday car.

Joe

 

Oh kwiktsi, I wasn't directing that pictures comment at anyone directly. No I was just making a comment on how many randoms jump in the middle of a thread and throw in a wrench that could influence peoples opinions one way, or another. Here's the only way I can give an example of what I am trying to say. Imagine there are a group of board members all sitting around going back and forth with there stances on...lets say "gun control". Ok lets say 1/2 are for it, 1/4 are against it, and the last 1/4 are on the fence with this topic. Ok so, the 1/2, & the 1/4, that a firm on there views are getting deeper & deeper into there, what had originally started out to be a discussion on how they could improve there community. But now has become an all out debate on trying to get the other side to fold or win the intense conversation. Now this is were the Lurker would come into play. When the two side are almost at the point of slinging mud at the other side, they will come into the middle of it stating, they have been following the topic the whole time, and there not choosing either side...But...There's always a But!. Then they say what it seems to them is that one side is right and the other is wrong. Now the conversation goes back into session, but now the scale is tipped in one direction, virtually crushing the others sides valid points and opinions on the subject. Now what has happened is since there was a Silent partner that came out and voiced there view as innocently as possible. But now changed the name of the game. If you look at any long thread that has highly viewed and has countless responses to. They all have the same basic formula as to how the story goes. I guarantee somewhere in the middle, you'll find a post from someone that has been a member since 03', and has only posted 25 posts in all that time. I find that to be a little strange. The other thing I think is a little strange, is when you click to view all there posts ever posted, you can see what their reason for which side would benefit most from the Scale tipping comment. Usually you'll see the same statements over and over in 10 different threads. Like, "I don't know if I would go with the Rotex Golds" & then "What do you guys think about the Rotex Golds?" Followed by the "If I were going to spend a hundred and a quarter, I would get some Rotex Golds". These are just examples I made up, so if you really do like the Rotex Golds, don't feel like I'm pointing figures at anyone. These are just the things, and the trends I have noticed over the passed year and a half being apart of this forum. So please don't take offence if you have posted what your favorites are a hundred times over, I am not naming names, I am just taking notice to how judgments are made and how attitudes towards other members comments, ideas, things they have done, pictures, ...etc, can get shot down, simply because someone may have found there comments to be a possible wrench in there manufacturers product that is being introduced. Or maybe your comments may just be educational, and would let the cat out of the bag, of how there magical product was simply a spring and a mirror combined with some smoke.
I apologize for taking this thread off topic, and if I am taking away from anyone who has something to offer to the actual subject. I apologize to you most of all. However, I wanted to at least explain were I am coming from, so there is no misunderstandings on my part. I know I write novels, but I like to cover all the bases, so hopefully it only needs to be said once. So with all that being said...how about that Traction Control Issue, so many of us are interested in? I'll try to help in any way I can even though I haven't been able to drive my car for over two months, because of my trans, conductor plate and harness, a long with tranny control module getting fried, and not under the 7/70 because of were I was driving when it all turned to sh*t on me. And financially, I don't have anything extra to put out for anything, let alone money to go towards some costly parts for my car. Unfortunately, my wife and I put everything into the development of my Dual Induction Systems for our cars, as well as a handful of MB vehicles. So I get to build things for a car I can't even drive. How fun is that... Its like a slap in the face every time I see the car. I'm paying for something that I can't even get use out of, or enjoy it.

 

I kind of figured it wasn't directed against me- that is why I used the. I just wanted to make sure because I know after my last "discussion", some people might think I am an arrogant as*hole lol. I really am not, I just don't like being told what I can and can't do by someone who has never tried it for themselves. I was going to ask about the intake system- BUT if I do go with an FI setup this winter, it won't do any good. No harm done, no sweat.

Joe

 

Hey gang,

This is my first post. Bought a black base coupe in June and have enjoyed it tremendously. I'm interested in whether anyone kept the ABS fuse out and how it has impacted everyday driving and more enthusiastic driving.

Thanks...

 

Ok so I am taking the thread a bit off topic. This is the first I am hearing of Saskins working on a Dual Induction system and was wondering how it was coming along. Also I want to mention that EvoSport has talked about developing one for the SLK32/C32 for almost 2 years even claiming to have a prototype installed and generating something like 15 hp increase. But the product has not been released. I am not sure if this is due to lack of results, lack of inertest, or limited resources (time, people and/or money).

I keep hoping to see a wider breadth and depth of products unfortunately up to this point few companies have stepped up to the plate.

 

Anyone? Anyone? Anyone running without the ABS fuse?

 

why wouldn't you want abs, cars are almost always faster with it.

 

If you unhook it you have no brake lights. At least that is my experience with my 2005 SRT-6. It does let you do some serious brake stand burnouts though.

 

Someone in this thread indicated that the traction control is powered through the ABS fuse. Hence, no fuse = no draconian traction control.

Losing brake lights would be a concern, however. Need them.

 

YIKES: You guys are getting nutty... ETC can be completely disabled with The DRBIII... But, it works just fine on the track when you turn it off... It only starts applying brake pressure when you're F'd up in a turn... I've actually learned to like it in the OFF position... Except for the fact that it will take you down a couple of MPH when it kicks-in...

But I have disabled it completely with the scan tool...

 

OK, how much is a DRBIII going to set me back?

I'm leasing my Crossfire and don't anticipate spending much money on performance stuff. Fuse pulling is a much more cost effective way of really getting the traction control to leave me to my devices...

 

EL STEVE: Tell me which fuse to pull that will completely disable the ETC... Not the ABS... I'll try it on my next event... Quick, my next event is 22nd 23rd... DRBIII with software licensing is about $7k... LOL...

 

HDDP, this is the quote from June that I saw. I haven't had the opportunity to try it, but someone posted after this that it seemed to work, but no one has reported back on longevity issues.

Good luck this weekend with your event.

 

Interesting. Although ABS is quite helpful for me on the track, not sure if I want it disabled. Thanks for the info though, I'll see if there is a function with the DRBIII to turn off the ESP alone...

Thanks for the wish of good luck for the event in NV. I'll need it, I've never run this track and it looks pretty wicked 3.5 miles with alot of twisties, a .35 mile straight, a downhill chicane like Laguna Seca and a huge .60 mile sweeper that looks like I'll be able to peg the limiter...

 

Why can't you just disable the 4,000 rpm rev limiter, by fooling the computer? It can only know that the clutch is not engaged, by the clutch switch, so just tape or fix the clutch switch in the closed position and the computer will always think the clutch is engaged, which should take care of the rev limiter. The only other thing the clutch switch controls is the starter disable, when the clutch is not depressed, so you will just have to remember not to start the car when the clutch is up, because if the car is in gear it will leap forward.

 

You can (eventually)... I'm in the process of working with MOTEK to do the computer control for the Crossfire, but it will take about 12 months and alot of $ on my part... It will allow you to completely remove the ECU and OEM wiring harness and run the car off the MOTEK system that will give you complete control over all the electronic functions and sensors in the car... But this is racecar stuff and probably out of the price range of the daily driver...

PS: I was talking about the 6,200 RPM limiter in 6th gear... 155 MPH.

 

I haven't tried that personally, but it also uses vehicle speed to determine actual throttle position, limiters, etc- so I think there may still be other issues if that is tried. Not to mention a lot of other cars I have had will idle funny also if the ECU thinks the clutch is engaged and you will lose the cruise control cut off (not a big deal to some of us). Easy enough to try though. I can't- both of my crossfires and my Z28 are snuggled in the garage for the winter lol.

Joe

 

HDDP- Interesting news about the Motek. I am not a big fan mainly due to price- have always used Haltech- but the Motek is a serious setup!

Joe