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Old 10-03-2015 | 09:54 PM
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Hi......
Did the search thing and could not find the right answer.
My key turns and all electronics work but the motor no start.
HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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Old 10-03-2015 | 10:44 PM
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Originally Posted by deltacrossfirebob
Hi......
Did the search thing and could not find the right answer.
My key turns and all electronics work but the motor no start.
HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It's a pity you have a CPS that is not a genuine Bosch part as a spare. Maybe you might have needed it one day.
 
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Old 10-03-2015 | 11:06 PM
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Default Re: ignition switch turns but no start

I have both, the one from china that got me a refund and another that I ordered from info here.
Thanks.
Will change tomorrow.
 
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Old 10-03-2015 | 11:50 PM
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Originally Posted by deltacrossfirebob
I have both, the one from china that got me a refund and another that I ordered from info here.
Thanks.
Will change tomorrow.
I am guessing the car cranks but does not start correct?
 
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Old 10-04-2015 | 11:02 AM
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Default Re: ignition switch turns but no start

Key turns the switch and all electronics work.
The motor does not turn over, just dead.
Gonna try replacing the cps as onehundred80 suggested.
Will keep ya posted and thanks for the input.
 
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Old 10-04-2015 | 01:04 PM
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Default Re: ignition switch turns but no start

cps..crankshaft position sensor or camshaft position sensor
I have a Bosch crankshaft sensor that I am going to replace but could the problem be the camshaft sensor??
Best seller for the camshaft sensor??
Thanks
 
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Old 10-04-2015 | 06:28 PM
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If the motor does not turn over at all, it is NOT either CPS, cam or crank. They do nothing until the motor is turning.
What we have here is :
1. The RCM, either bad solder joints ( MOST LIKELY ) or a FUBAR relay - search "Mystery No Start"
2. Something going on with the pulse module ( the thing that engages the starter motor, then disengages it when the motor is running.)
These problems have been found to involve the brake switch on manuals, wiring, or the pulse module itself.
The fellow over in Mississippi found it to be a wiring issue.
 
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Old 10-04-2015 | 07:08 PM
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Default Re: ignition switch turns but no start

In the first post you said it did not start, not that it did not turn over, crank or whatever.
Different problem now.
 
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Old 10-04-2015 | 07:16 PM
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When describing problems it is the important to give all the details.
To those who do not know may not realize how important the little details can be.
Not starting can mean lots of things.
Explain exactly what is happening and then you have a much better chance of diagnosing it the first time.
 
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Old 10-04-2015 | 07:33 PM
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Sorry if I did not provide enough info.
Key turns in switch, all electronics come on.
Motor does not turn over.
Finall found a scanner, and used it, code was for crank sensor.
Installed my back up Bosch and now it starts.
Now looking at having the RCM re soldered, someone here does that???
Have to find out what the FUBAR is.
Thanks for all your help
 
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Old 10-10-2015 | 08:17 PM
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Default Re: ignition switch turns but no start

Thanks for all your input.
Replaced the CPS, Bosch for Bosch, no junk.
Started it a few times, went nowhere just checking it out.
Went to store and......... no start, same problem.
Key turns....all electronics come on
Dtinker is doing his magic on a replacement RCM for me.
Any other ideas????????
Thanks
 
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Old 10-10-2015 | 09:20 PM
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Originally Posted by deltacrossfirebob
Thanks for all your input.
Replaced the CPS, Bosch for Bosch, no junk.
Started it a few times, went nowhere just checking it out.
Went to store and......... no start, same problem.
Key turns....all electronics come on
Dtinker is doing his magic on a replacement RCM for me.
Any other ideas????????
Thanks
Could you check the codes again?
See if they get the same code or a new one.
 
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Old 10-10-2015 | 09:49 PM
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Default Re: ignition switch turns but no start

Thanks Onehundred80/
Great idea, can I write off my not thinking of it to a senior moment??/
That should have been the first thing I did.
Will do in the am and report bac.
Thanks again
 
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Old 10-11-2015 | 07:59 AM
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Bob, the CPS will not cause these symptoms, it does not start generating signals UNTIL the flywheel is turning.
This is classic RCM, either the 3 solder points or a flaky engine relay.
Probably not the fuel relay, as it would momentarily start, then die if that was the bugger.
 
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Old 10-12-2015 | 10:30 PM
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Default Re: ignition switch turns but no start

Thanks again for input.
Check to see if any codes were coming and there are none.
Guess it is the rcm??
Thanks
 
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Old 10-13-2015 | 06:44 AM
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I'd give it 5-1 Vegas odds
 
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Old 10-20-2015 | 03:38 PM
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Default Re: ignition switch turns but no start

Hi all....
Just a update.
DJ did his magic on my rcm and all seems ok.
Thanks again to DJTighe and also to all the other input I received.
This forum rocks!!!!!!!!!!
 
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