ESP/BAS, ABS and CEL lights
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Strange no codes though. Thank you and everyone else for their help.
I'll report back.
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When Monitored: With the engine run time above a calibrated value, battery voltage greater than 10.4 volts, ECT within a specific range, and the Short Runner Valve Assembly (SRV) control active.
Set Condition: The Powertrain Control Module (PCM) compares the circuit feedback to a calibrated closed range, between 75% & 85% Pulse Width Modulated (PWM) duty cycle, when the circuit is de-energized or to a calibrated open range, between 35% & 55% PWM duty cycle, when the circuit is energized. If the value is determined to be out of the calibrated range in either the de-energized, greater than 85% duty cycle or less than 75% duty cycle, or energized, greater than 55% duty cycle or less than 35% duty cycle, state for more than a calibrated amount of time, this DTC will set.
That means nothing to me sadly. I would not know a pulse width modulated cycle even if I could ride it.
I got % readings outside of what they say but it is called something different, I am guessing it means the same. So I have ordered a new part.
Meanwhile on the other problem I am still looking.
I have been offered assistance and the use of a garage by my good friend SparkieSRT6 and I am going to take advantage of his offer. If I have to take this into a stealer or something in the end I would like to know what I am up against. Forewarned is forearmed as they say.
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I thought that I had a breakthrough here, not to be though.
I had read that the codes could be read by playing with the iggy key, ON > ACC > ON > ACC > On.
All of this in 3 seconds, I had done it before with no luck, Well I did it again and it worked.
Codes P1004 AND P0645 showed up in the odometer window.
Turns out that P0645 is; Air Conditioning (A/C) Clutch Relay Control Circuit.
Hopefully that's why the AC quit last fall.
Still no code for the BAS/ESP and ABS.
I had read that the codes could be read by playing with the iggy key, ON > ACC > ON > ACC > On.
All of this in 3 seconds, I had done it before with no luck, Well I did it again and it worked.
Codes P1004 AND P0645 showed up in the odometer window.
Turns out that P0645 is; Air Conditioning (A/C) Clutch Relay Control Circuit.
Hopefully that's why the AC quit last fall.
Still no code for the BAS/ESP and ABS.
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I was showing a buddy the key dance tonight, ON, ACC, ON, ACC, ON and the P1004, P0645 codes came up.
There was a ding noise and another code came up U1417 which is Left front wheel sensor fault.
This did not show up on my hand held scanner or his.
Now we have; wheel sensor, AC clutch relay and short runner solenoid faults to fix.
I am a happy man. Finally something definite to fix on the ABS, ESP/BAS fault, well maybe.
There was a ding noise and another code came up U1417 which is Left front wheel sensor fault.
This did not show up on my hand held scanner or his.
Now we have; wheel sensor, AC clutch relay and short runner solenoid faults to fix.
I am a happy man. Finally something definite to fix on the ABS, ESP/BAS fault, well maybe.
smiling
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Re: ESP/BAS, ABS and CEL lights
I was showing a buddy the key dance tonight, ON, ACC, ON, ACC, ON and the P1004, P0645 codes came up.
There was a ding noise and another code came up U1417 which is Left front wheel sensor fault.
This did not show up on my hand held scanner or his.
Now we have; wheel sensor, AC clutch relay and short runner solenoid faults to fix.
I am a happy man. Finally something definite to fix on the ABS, ESP/BAS fault, well maybe.
There was a ding noise and another code came up U1417 which is Left front wheel sensor fault.
This did not show up on my hand held scanner or his.
Now we have; wheel sensor, AC clutch relay and short runner solenoid faults to fix.
I am a happy man. Finally something definite to fix on the ABS, ESP/BAS fault, well maybe.
So are you bringing it up here with the new parts in hand.?? Sunday is looking great for me.
T'stat will be set to 70, lots of tools....if I can find them all. Did I tell you my wife sells for a brewery......
You may need a ride home.
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Re: ESP/BAS, ABS and CEL lights
Sunday is fine with me.
The Chrysler 300 has the best scanner, my Innova 3100 and UltraGauge can only find the P1004 problem. That really sucks.
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I would have answered if I had something constructive to say, but I didn't. So I couldn't help you, so that's why I didn't answer, but I certainly would have if I had any information. Good luck
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I think you'll find that the systems are actually working even though the three trouble lights are on. The lights should go out by themselves after a half dozen or so cycles of running the car. Be patient. When you go in for your testing there will NOT be any trouble codes stored in the computer related to this issue.
As I said before the 300's built in code reader is better than my Innova 3100 and the UltraGauge. It picked up two codes the others missed the AC and front left wheel speed sensor errors. I guess it stands to reason that if the car knows something specifically is wrong it should be able to spit out the reason.
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As I said before the 300's built in code reader is better than my Innova 3100 and the UltraGauge. It picked up two codes the others missed the AC and front left wheel speed sensor errors. I guess it stands to reason that if the car knows something specifically is wrong it should be able to spit out the reason.
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Re: ESP/BAS, ABS and CEL lights
I Googled this :
Code retrieval can be accessed by the ignition key or by a diagnostic readout box(DRB).To obtain the codes using the key method,set the park brake,and put the vehicle in Park/neutral.
Some 95 and later OBDII vehicles, you may be able to retrieve OBDII codes with this procedure, if equipped with digital dash.
Turn the ignition key ON,OFF,ON,OFF,and finally ON again(ENGINE NOT RUNNING)
The codes will start to flash on the POWER LOSS or CHECK ENGINE light.
FLASH,pause,FLASH,FLASH=code 12
Some 95 and later OBDII vehicles, you may be able to retrieve OBDII codes with this procedure, if equipped with digital dash.
Turn the ignition key ON,OFF,ON,OFF,and finally ON again(ENGINE NOT RUNNING)
The codes will start to flash on the POWER LOSS or CHECK ENGINE light.
FLASH,pause,FLASH,FLASH=code 12
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Re: ESP/BAS, ABS and CEL lights
That is some cars, my 300 was different.
With the key in the ignition in the OFF position, car off naturally.
Turn to ON, (after that point the starter will kick in).
Back to ACC. (Not to OFF)
Back to On.
Back to ACC.
Finally back to ON.
The codes will show up one after the other in the Mileage LCD window.
It shows the actual code, P1004, P0421, U765 etc.
Get ready to write them down.
When they have finished the LCD will say 'dOne' (Odd size characters)
It works best I find by starting from the OFF position. I get it to work every time now.
With the key in the ignition in the OFF position, car off naturally.
Turn to ON, (after that point the starter will kick in).
Back to ACC. (Not to OFF)
Back to On.
Back to ACC.
Finally back to ON.
The codes will show up one after the other in the Mileage LCD window.
It shows the actual code, P1004, P0421, U765 etc.
Get ready to write them down.
When they have finished the LCD will say 'dOne' (Odd size characters)
It works best I find by starting from the OFF position. I get it to work every time now.
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Re: ESP/BAS, ABS and CEL lights
That is some cars, my 300 was different.
With the key in the ignition in the OFF position, car off naturally.
Turn to ON, (after that point the starter will kick in).
Back to ACC. (Not to OFF)
Back to On.
Back to ACC.
Finally back to ON.
The codes will show up one after the other in the Mileage LCD window.
It shows the actual code, P1004, P0421, U765 etc.
Get ready to write them down.
When they have finished the LCD will say 'dOne' (Odd size characters)
It works best I find by starting from the OFF position. I get it to work every time now.
With the key in the ignition in the OFF position, car off naturally.
Turn to ON, (after that point the starter will kick in).
Back to ACC. (Not to OFF)
Back to On.
Back to ACC.
Finally back to ON.
The codes will show up one after the other in the Mileage LCD window.
It shows the actual code, P1004, P0421, U765 etc.
Get ready to write them down.
When they have finished the LCD will say 'dOne' (Odd size characters)
It works best I find by starting from the OFF position. I get it to work every time now.
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Re: ESP/BAS, ABS and CEL lights
I have dealt with a lot of error codes, SIDS, PIDS, etc with my International tractor. A lot of times it is corrosion built up in the connectors causing just enough resistance in the line and affect the voltage to make it display a trouble code. Cleaning some of the connectors associated with whatever is throwing the codes might help. May be corrosion in the wiring as well, which is hard to find without a meter. Good look. I know these codes are a pita to run down.
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Limited success, after freeing up the short runner valve with carburetor cleaner, the code has been erased and the CEL light is OFF. I think that the system needed 'x' number of miles under its belt with a number of self checks done by the computer to convince itself that all was well. HOORAY for that.
I have a $150 plus shipping solenoid on its way by courier from the states that is not needed. Can't win them all I guess.
The AC code P0645 is there still but it does not light up the CEL. As the car would be lighter on gas with no AC the system fault does not initiate the CEL.
I am left with the ESP/BAS and ABS lights to eliminate.
I did install a new battery, amazingly the OEM battery did not have handles, although it had provision for them. Saving pennies is being taken to the extreme if that is the case.
Doc, I pulled the connector to the frame harness and it was all nice and clean.
I have a $150 plus shipping solenoid on its way by courier from the states that is not needed. Can't win them all I guess.
The AC code P0645 is there still but it does not light up the CEL. As the car would be lighter on gas with no AC the system fault does not initiate the CEL.
I am left with the ESP/BAS and ABS lights to eliminate.
I did install a new battery, amazingly the OEM battery did not have handles, although it had provision for them. Saving pennies is being taken to the extreme if that is the case.
Doc, I pulled the connector to the frame harness and it was all nice and clean.