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Old 01-26-2012 | 06:54 PM
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Hey folks, been awhile. I have a noisy idler pulley. I'm aware of the Needswings solution which I will use when the extended warranty expires. I could get a free new one but I hate to pull the "Mods." off for a dealer visit. How about a bearing replacement to press in? Some guys on the M.B. are talking about a double bearing Mustang Cobra replacement. Sounds dubious. Any input and links would be appreciated.

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Old 01-26-2012 | 08:00 PM
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if you can remove your bearing take it to a bearing place like miller bearing ,,motion ind. or what ever bearing place is near you they will measure yours and tell them you want a hig speed self lube,, just tell what you want to do and they will tell you what you need,, take it home press it in,,( a socket on the outer race only) and tap it into the pulley you want a 20 to 30.000 rpm bearing jim
 
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Old 01-26-2012 | 08:22 PM
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Originally Posted by amx1397
if you can remove your bearing take it to a bearing place ..................you want a 20 to 30.000 rpm bearing jim
It's not that simple, bearing load is a factor as well.

 
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Old 01-26-2012 | 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted by amx1397
if you can remove your bearing take it to a bearing place like miller bearing ,,motion ind. or what ever bearing place is near you they will measure yours and tell them you want a hig speed self lube,, just tell what you want to do and they will tell you what you need,, take it home press it in,,( a socket on the outer race only) and tap it into the pulley you want a 20 to 30.000 rpm bearing jim

Thanks for the input Jim.
 
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Old 01-26-2012 | 08:37 PM
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Originally Posted by onehundred80
It's not that simple, bearing load is a factor as well.

Noted.........................
 
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Old 01-26-2012 | 08:39 PM
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Idler pulley's are not that expensive and EASY to replace....... I keep spares in the garage.....
 
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Old 01-26-2012 | 08:41 PM
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Idler pulley's are not that expensive and EASY to replace....... I keep spares in the garage.....
Thanks for the reply Mike. What's the price tag? Are these OEM?
 
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Old 01-26-2012 | 08:55 PM
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Idler pulley's are not that expensive and EASY to replace....... I keep spares in the garage.....

Just ordered one Mike. $21.00 including shipping. Thanks.
 
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Old 01-26-2012 | 10:58 PM
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Originally Posted by onehundred80
It's not that simple, bearing load is a factor as well.

Why is it called an idler pulley? Because it doesn't have a load to pull. It just goes round and round, happily and idly along, not pulling a load and doing no work at all.

sorry but it is that simple,, i worked in the industrial machine ind. for 37 years,, i have bought bearings that cost $22,000.00 all the way down to $2.00 ,, the bearing houses know what they are doing just take a bearing in and fine an old guy( the young ones don't know sh** yet, tell then what you want to use the bearing for and tell them you want to upgrade the bearing,,there are 4 to 5 up grades the higher you upgrade the more it cost and the better it is,,jim
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Ball bearings, , are probably the most common type of bearing. They are found in everything from inline skates to hard drives. These bearings can handle both radial and thrust loads, and are usually found in applications where the load is relatively small.
In a ball bearing, the load is transmitted from the outer race to the ball, and from the ball to the inner race. Since the ball is a sphere, it only contacts the inner and outer race at a very small point, which helps it spin very smoothly. But it also means that there is not very much contact area holding that load,

Roller bearings like the one illustrated below are used in applications like conveyer belt rollers, where they must hold heavy radial loads. In these bearings, the roller is a cylinder, so the contact between the inner and outer race is not a point but a line. This spreads the load out over a larger area, allowing the bearing to handle much greater loads than a ball bearing. However, this type of bearing is not designed to handle much thrust loading.
A variation of this type of bearing, called a needle bearing, uses cylinders with a very small diameter. This allows the bearing to fit into tight places.
Cutaway view of a roller bearing
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Ball Thrust Bearing

Ball thrust bearings like the one shown below are mostly used for low-speed applications and cannot handle much radial load. Barstools and Lazy Susan turntables use this type of bearing.
Ball thrust bearing
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Roller Thrust Bearing

Roller thrust bearings like the one illustrated below can support large thrust loads. They are often found in gearsets like car transmissions between gears, and between the housing and the rotating shafts. The helical gears used in most transmissions have angled teeth -- this causes a thrust load that must be supported by a bearing.
 

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Old 01-26-2012 | 11:34 PM
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Originally Posted by amx1397
Why is it called an idler pulley? Because it doesn't have a load to pull. It just goes round and round, happily and idly along, not pulling a load and doing no work at all.

sorry but it is that simple,, i worked in the industrial machine ind. for 37 years,, i have bought bearings that cost $22,000.00 all the way down to $2.00 ,, the bearing houses know what they are doing just take a bearing in and fine an old guy( the young ones don't know sh** yet, tell then what you want to use the bearing for and tell them you want to upgrade the bearing,,there are 4 to 5 up grades the higher you upgrade the more it cost and the better it is,,jim
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Ball bearings, as shown below, are probably the most common type of bearing. They are found in everything from inline skates to hard drives. These bearings can handle both radial and thrust loads, and are usually found in applications where the load is relatively small.
In a ball bearing, the load is transmitted from the outer race to the ball, and from the ball to the inner race. Since the ball is a sphere, it only contacts the inner and outer race at a very small point, which helps it spin very smoothly. But it also means that there is not very much contact area holding that load,

Roller bearings like the one illustrated below are used in applications like conveyer belt rollers, where they must hold heavy radial loads. In these bearings, the roller is a cylinder, so the contact between the inner and outer race is not a point but a line. This spreads the load out over a larger area, allowing the bearing to handle much greater loads than a ball bearing. However, this type of bearing is not designed to handle much thrust loading.
A variation of this type of bearing, called a needle bearing, uses cylinders with a very small diameter. This allows the bearing to fit into tight places.
Cutaway view of a roller bearing
Photo courtesy The Timken Company


Ball Thrust Bearing

Ball thrust bearings like the one shown below are mostly used for low-speed applications and cannot handle much radial load. Barstools and Lazy Susan turntables use this type of bearing.
Ball thrust bearing
Photo courtesy The Timken Company


Roller Thrust Bearing

Roller thrust bearings like the one illustrated below can support large thrust loads. They are often found in gearsets like car transmissions between gears, and between the housing and the rotating shafts. The helical gears used in most transmissions have angled teeth -- this causes a thrust load that must be supported by a bearing.
No load? Think again.
 
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Old 01-26-2012 | 11:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr. Max
Just ordered one Mike. $21.00 including shipping. Thanks.

That sounds about like what I paid last time I bought one.... dont forget to check ALL the other pulleys while you have the belt off..... just for peace of mind if nothing else...
 
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Old 01-27-2012 | 03:56 AM
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Thanks AMX for all the great photos and stuff.
 
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Old 01-27-2012 | 10:57 AM
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Mr Max, would u post the p/n u order Thanks Dan
 
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Old 01-27-2012 | 03:24 PM
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Mr Max, would u post the p/n u order Thanks Dan

Here you go Dan. If you do a Google search you'll find plenty of suppliers. Prices range from $15 up. The part number is below at the bottom of the page.




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Old 01-27-2012 | 04:59 PM
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Thanks for the info Mr Max will order for spare, Dan
 
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Old 01-27-2012 | 05:30 PM
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Thanks for the info Mr Max will order for spare, Dan

Yeh, they're cheap enough to change with the oil. lol
 
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