ok the video link

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For some reason I thought you had and SRT. I took a similar approach on my SRT to eliminate TC. I went to the black box and unbolted the wire for the TC/ABS and after a couple miles it went into limp mode. I was looking for a way to turn it off permantently so I wouldn't have to hit the stupid ESP button every time I start the car.

 

I did 2 decent burnouts last week (I also found out I now get a good deal on tires at work ) The traction control kicked in a little, but I got them smoking pretty good. I tried it once before, and it was pitiful, they spun to maybe 3000 rpm and it bogged. This time it held the rpm around 4000, but wouldnt go higher. When the car started to roll out the TC kicked in again. Maybe it has something with the car learning your driving behavior. I've been trying to upload the video to youtube and my computer keeps freezing, its a pile. I'm going to try it on my other computer now.

 

I'm getting no bog down at all, the car will fish tail down the road.

I've done a few mods but was really upset by the way the motor would stop me doing what i wanted it to do.
NOW IT DOES!

 

I'd like to see a video of your switches in action .

 

yeah I don't understand the problem you guys are having with the TC, I turn the switch off and TaDa, it's off! what's so complicated guys?

 

The problem is that even with the TC button pressed there still is traction and esp. Press your button and try a hard launch and your car will still bog down.

Steve

 

the video

http://www.youtube.com/v/0296vX_0V6Q&hl=en&fs=1

 

I will try and get some video of the car in action using just the standard traction button then using my mod

Steve

 

Drove the car for over 100 miles today with the switches on with no problems.
No limp mode anda little less rubber on the rears

 

I think what the "issue" not "problem" is that some on here push their cars a little harder than others. Example: I've only had Jeeps and pickups in my life, so the Crossfire is the fastest car I've ever own, and it's quick, but no Viper, Corvette, etc. There's this very sharp turn near my house (off ramp) that I can take so far @ about 45-47 mph. The tires don't squeal at this speed so I can go faster, but as narrow as the offramp is I just don't have the ***** to go faster. The TC light does not come on.
I did "a" doughnut in the parking lot at work late one night and because I've never done one before with such underpowered vehicles I've owned it was a weird feeling and then when the TC kicked in, made it a little odder.
This car will let you do a little bit of stupidity. But only a little.

Justin

 

The SRT6 is a completely different animal. They are all automatics, and even a slightly modified one can spin the tires more at a 30 mph roll than the non supercharged Crossfire can by sitting at a dead stop and dumping the clutch. I have owed both a 6MT Crossfire and now the SRT6. I would be real curious if this mod has the same effect on the SRT6 version. If so, this may be the single best post on this forum~ Who is going to be the first to try it?

 

Good idea but, Toggle switches won't last long on high amperage circuit's like the one you spiced in to {50 amp}. You should have the switches controlling a couple of relays that would cut power to your esp and tc. Also i think a cleaner way of doing this would be to use the esp switch to control the two realys , or just disconnect one of your abs wheel speed sensors and it will disable your abs, esp, and tc . When your at the track that is .

 

If you would have used the search you would have discovered that all of this has been done before. No harm in bringing it up again though. Now lets see the videos!

 

Actually a better stability modification, is if you can make some wider front fenders so I can widen the front rims, to help counteract the plowing effect from the skinny fronts and wide rear wheels.

I'd rather have the ESP on all the time because, this is a short wheelbase car yet it is very well balanced when crossed up on the steering wheel.

One day you'll wish you never disconnected the ESP TC system. just be careful, because turning the system back on is not instantaneous, and takes several minutes for the initializion process of the gyro or yaw sensor to center it's self.

 

Hence why ive used a 50 amp relay, I was going to use a 50 amp toggle but thought the relay would be better.

The toggle switch on the left controls traction only, where as the toggle on the right is conected to the yaw sensor controlling ESP.

I will be doing videos later today showing car using the normal traction control versus my toggle switches and will post them later.

Steve

 

I dont understand what do slightly narrower front wheels have to do with the traction control?? Our cars are RWD not AWD.

And turning the system back on is instant as ive checked this already.

 

I would also like to make it clear that I still have both brake lights working fine and full control over the rear spoiler (doesnt stay up like when pulling fuses 17 & 18)

Steve

 

You missed my point, the lager rear wheels cause understeer and over power the front skinny wheels. if you match the wheels they will reduce plowing.

also if you want more traction get a posi unit. turning off the entire ABS/TC/Stability Contol unit is not a smart thing.
what's the obsession with burning rubber anyways? I can turn off the TC and easily slide the car around corners safely with out this silly modification.

 

The reason for this mod is that if you take your car down the drag strip it will allow for better/easier launching an gaining a few extra tenths on your 1/4 mile times.

Also when i turn traction off i want it to be 'OFF' which it wasnt before this mod.

Also now i have complete control from the cabin rather than having to pull fuses or going under the hood.

Thanks for the 'Silly Mod' remark though, but there are alot of people here who have had real pains with this traction issue

Steve