V8 Crossfire Conversion Diary
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Re: V8 Crossfire Conversion Diary
Originally Posted by kanzus
I run E55 AMG Kompressor ECU, when ordered 55 K harness, it comes without 2 pins kompressor clutch connector. I m little happy because I thought i have full power, and after knowing kompressor is always off, i wonder what is 130 HP more !
Now I have time to fix that, will see running without check engine light and all stuff work 100% wright way.
I have pinout from WIS and ALLDATA and all info needed but pics and more info is welcome.
Thanks for rcompart info, but in which thread he talks about Kompressor wiring please?
Now I have time to fix that, will see running without check engine light and all stuff work 100% wright way.
I have pinout from WIS and ALLDATA and all info needed but pics and more info is welcome.
Thanks for rcompart info, but in which thread he talks about Kompressor wiring please?
Re: V8 Crossfire Conversion Diary
Originally Posted by LantanaTX
Not sure if has written this in a thread but we will now as he is watchhing this thread. Rudy, I hope you can add some help for Karim. Our community owes a lot to him for sharing his build on the V8 thread. His success is what gave me the confidence to rip out my V6
You can see that 1.1 pin is for supercharger clutch, is this signal wire and must wire second to ground ??
Re: V8 Crossfire Conversion Diary
Originally Posted by kanzus
Here attached pdf of ECU pinout from 113.990 engine: E 55 AMG Kompressor.
You can see that 1.1 pin is for supercharger clutch, is this signal wire and must wire second to ground ??
You can see that 1.1 pin is for supercharger clutch, is this signal wire and must wire second to ground ??
Re: V8 Crossfire Conversion Diary
Originally Posted by kanzus
These are pdf sheet of fuel injection and ignition system from same engine.
- 0.75MM BKPK (black pink) wired to ecu pin 1.1
- 0.75mm RDGN (red green) is wired to Z7/36 ---> what does it mean Z7/36 ?? is it a relay, or gnd point or fuse??? any idea?
Re: V8 Crossfire Conversion Diary
Originally Posted by kanzus
At the pdf "E 55 AMG Komp 113.990 sheet 2.pdf" you can see that Y2/1 IS SUPERCHARGER MAGNETIC CLUTCH:
- 0.75MM BKPK (black pink) wired to ecu pin 1.1
- 0.75mm RDGN (red green) is wired to Z7/36 ---> what does it mean Z7/36 ?? is it a relay, or gnd point or fuse??? any idea?
- 0.75MM BKPK (black pink) wired to ecu pin 1.1
- 0.75mm RDGN (red green) is wired to Z7/36 ---> what does it mean Z7/36 ?? is it a relay, or gnd point or fuse??? any idea?
I'd need to see the other PDFs because there is a good chance that Z7/36 is actually a fused +12vdc supply somewhere in the engine harness or in the engine compartment. It would make sense because the relay would close to ground in the RCM to engage the clutch. If you want, you can give me a call or email me. My email is rudy@acceleratedindustries.com and my phone number is 952-681-1000.
Thanks
Re: V8 Crossfire Conversion Diary
Originally Posted by rcompart
Karim,
I'd need to see the other PDFs because there is a good chance that Z7/36 is actually a fused +12vdc supply somewhere in the engine harness or in the engine compartment. It would make sense because the relay would close to ground in the RCM to engage the clutch. If you want, you can give me a call or email me. My email is rudy@acceleratedindustries.com and my phone number is 952-681-1000.
Thanks
I'd need to see the other PDFs because there is a good chance that Z7/36 is actually a fused +12vdc supply somewhere in the engine harness or in the engine compartment. It would make sense because the relay would close to ground in the RCM to engage the clutch. If you want, you can give me a call or email me. My email is rudy@acceleratedindustries.com and my phone number is 952-681-1000.
Thanks
I've got it!
In the front SAM module and fuse box, the Electromagnetic Clutch is connected at Z7/36 same like these parts:
O2 Sensor left before KAT
O2 sensor right before KAT
Reversing valve manifold
Pressure transducer ARF
Switching valve air pump
So I just have to connect +dcc wire with one of these part for the first clutch pin connector and to ECU 1.1 pin for the second clutch pin connector.
;-)
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Re: V8 Crossfire Conversion Diary
Well, I now have 10,000 miles on the conversion. One problem that didn't show up until mid july is that the car starts to heat up when sitting in traffic. My dual 12 inch fans are not moving enough air when the outside temps are mid 90's or hotter. I have done some research and found tht our radiator is the same exact radiator that is in the C43, C55 and C500. thos cars use a mechanical clutch fan and dual electric pusher fans in fornt of the condensor. I have decided to duplicate this set up. I have the C43 shroud, fan, and clutch. I am about to go out now and install it. I will move my electric fans to the front as pushers. I will post results latter. I wanted to get this done while it is still hotter than hell here in Texas to make sure I hvae fixed the issue. The car never get hot as long as it is moving so I am hoping this solves it. I did look at pictures of the Startech car's V8 and they are using the same C43 cooling set up.
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Re: V8 Crossfire Conversion Diary
I got it together and then let the car run for over 30 minutes with the e brake on and the car in drive to simulate sitting in traffic. Temps stayed perfect which is right at the half way point on the guage. I hope this does it as there is so little room it is not all that easy. I did not have enough room to use both electric fans as the condensor is not as wide as the radiator. One 16inch would be perfect. See attached photos.
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Re: V8 Crossfire Conversion Diary
always improving....maybe I should add a fan while sitting in line....then again. if I can get Rudy to do the fan mod on my blue coupe, that would be even better....Rudy, "Have HP will Travel".....kind of guy....
Nice work though in what looks to be tight quarters...
Nice work though in what looks to be tight quarters...
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Re: V8 Crossfire Conversion Diary
Originally Posted by oledoc2u
always improving....maybe I should add a fan while sitting in line....then again. if I can get Rudy to do the fan mod on my blue coupe, that would be even better....Rudy, "Have HP will Travel".....kind of guy....
Nice work though in what looks to be tight quarters...
Nice work though in what looks to be tight quarters...
I Just got finished driving around town and it hit 101 this afternoon in Dallas. The temp guage was rock solid and sitting right in the middle of the guage. I even got caught in bad traffic where I had to watch a traffic light turn green three times before I made it through. Still no problem. There is some presure on my shroud where the top radiator hose rest against it. It is pushing the shroud down just a bit and is very close to the fan. I am going to try a C43 upper radiator hose.
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Re: V8 Crossfire Conversion Diary
I am guessing, torquing over doesn't affect the fan shroud at all, or you would have heard something by now....still a great project...Tazz, and Rudy are stopping by on there way to the Dragon meet...can't wait to see this baby....and no, I won't be standing in line...but, I will keep it mind when I am brousing the junk yard for parts...especially now that I know they will fit, and I have Rudy in tow with his knowledge....and I won't forget all that you went through to get there as well....I had another project in mind for awhile, but this makes a lot more sense. I still have a blue coupe to finish, two lsd's to pay for, and then I can dream about a V-8...lol....great work on your part and the other guys....and now, we are seeing some German engineering appearing on the scene...maybe having Buggin serving our country will serve the rest of us some great info as well...lol
Re: V8 Crossfire Conversion Diary
I'm very proud to announce that we have a new AMG 55 conversion by evil_deeds running in germany. It's a 55 N/A AMG. Hope we'll get it on the street with german MOT soon. Here's the thread (sorry, german language only)
Motortausch V8 - Umbauten, Modifikationen ... - Chrysler-Crossfire-Forum - Das Crossfireforum für Crossfirefans
Cheers!
Markus
Motortausch V8 - Umbauten, Modifikationen ... - Chrysler-Crossfire-Forum - Das Crossfireforum für Crossfirefans
Cheers!
Markus
Re: V8 Crossfire Conversion Diary
Originally Posted by bigblock427
Here's the thread (sorry, german language only)
Motortausch V8 - Umbauten, Modifikationen ... - Chrysler-Crossfire-Forum - Das Crossfireforum für Crossfirefans
Cheers!
Markus
Motortausch V8 - Umbauten, Modifikationen ... - Chrysler-Crossfire-Forum - Das Crossfireforum für Crossfirefans
Cheers!
Markus
For those who dont know, if you copy and paste the URL (above link) into a google search, it will give you the option to translate the web page ..
Re: V8 Crossfire Conversion Diary
Originally Posted by Eric
I have been looking but cant find. how much $ for the V8 supercharged swap and whats the whp and torque.. alot of ppl are asking me questions but i do not know tks
Re: V8 Crossfire Conversion Diary
Originally Posted by sk8erjosh09
Ive seen the 55k motors for around $5000 used of course. After that there are some nickel and dime purchases you can find earlier in this thread. The hardest part I was told from Bob, if I remember correctly, is the obvious labor involved. Not sure if there is much of a difference between swapping the N/A and the Kompressor motors. Probably just tuning.
Re: V8 Crossfire Conversion Diary
Originally Posted by Eric
What's the compleat price including labor tune everything?