V8 Crossfire Conversion Diary
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Re: V8 Crossfire Conversion Diary
Originally Posted by Jeep2Xfire
So Kanzus got his running, what's going on with Lantana??? I might be in need of some of your expertise soon. I am doing a motor swap on an old Volvo S70. 5 cylinder turbo. The guy loves this POS so much he's paying the 6300 for a factory reman. Which means no warranty core return. Looks like I'm getting paid money and a turbo to put in a motor. Limited Crossfire my be second turbo in line....
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Iv also been wanting to put a V8 in my crossfire for the longest. i was looking at some you tube vids and i say a few people used and LS1 corvette engine in a Nissan 240. I was wondering if it is possible do Put an LS1 Motor in my Crossfire. Cuz if i could i would definatly do that. And most important that motor is not expensive. And for those wondering its a 5.7 v8.
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HI Tuners,
I just returned from hollydays that I thought deserved, I bring with me a video of my first run with my CLK 55 AMG Kompressor. I assure you that the limit is far from 250 km / h, but I lifted my foot off the accelerator at this level because it is difficult to drive and take the video with the other hand at the same time, I would say that's crazy ..
Not bad for a first run, isn't it !
Here is the link: YouTube - CLK 55 AMG K 247 Km/h - By KANZUS
CLK 55 AMG K 247 Km/h - By KANZUS
Hearing from You.
Karim.
Not bad for a first run, isn't it !
Here is the link: YouTube - CLK 55 AMG K 247 Km/h - By KANZUS
CLK 55 AMG K 247 Km/h - By KANZUS
Hearing from You.
Karim.
Re: V8 Crossfire Conversion Diary
Originally Posted by kanzus
HI Tuners,
I just returned from hollydays that I thought deserved, I bring with me a video of my first run with my CLK 55 AMG Kompressor. I assure you that the limit is far from 250 km / h, but I lifted my foot off the accelerator at this level because it is difficult to drive and take the video with the other hand at the same time, I would say that's crazy ..
Not bad for a first run, isn't it !
Here is the link: YouTube - CLK 55 AMG K 247 Km/h - By KANZUS
CLK 55 AMG K 247 Km/h - By KANZUS
Hearing from You.
Karim.
Not bad for a first run, isn't it !
Here is the link: YouTube - CLK 55 AMG K 247 Km/h - By KANZUS
CLK 55 AMG K 247 Km/h - By KANZUS
Hearing from You.
Karim.
Or were you driving a Benz?
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Re: V8 Crossfire Conversion Diary - 04-01-2009 , 09:38 AM
Hello Boys,
I would like to join your conversation because i think I can tune up this upgrade/conversion from mercedes v6 to v8 engine.
I'm now upgrading my automatic 2003 CLK 240 (v6-2.6l-177hp - 125kw) to a 2003 V8 55AMG taken from another CLK whitch i bought 2 weeks ago with automatic speedshift gearbox and ECU.
dshift gearbox and ECU.
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Re: V8 Crossfire Conversion Diary - 04-01-2009 , 09:38 AM
Hello Boys,
I would like to join your conversation because i think I can tune up this upgrade/conversion from mercedes v6 to v8 engine.
I'm now upgrading my automatic 2003 CLK 240 (v6-2.6l-177hp - 125kw) to a 2003 V8 55AMG taken from another CLK whitch i bought 2 weeks ago with automatic speedshift gearbox and ECU.
dshift gearbox and ECU.
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wish I had the time to tinker on mine, but I could care less about the big v8 conversion as I'd rather see someone get Kanzus to integrate the SRT6 ecu into the NA crossire, so we slowfires can low boost with- out so many special gagets required to trick the ecu.
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Re: V8 Crossfire Conversion Diary
Originally Posted by black05
Hello Boys,
I would like to join your conversation because i think I can tune up this upgrade/conversion from mercedes v6 to v8 engine.
I'm now upgrading my automatic 2003 CLK 240 (v6-2.6l-177hp - 125kw) to a 2003 V8 55AMG taken from another CLK whitch i bought 2 weeks ago with automatic speedshift gearbox and ECU.
dshift gearbox and ECU.
I would like to join your conversation because i think I can tune up this upgrade/conversion from mercedes v6 to v8 engine.
I'm now upgrading my automatic 2003 CLK 240 (v6-2.6l-177hp - 125kw) to a 2003 V8 55AMG taken from another CLK whitch i bought 2 weeks ago with automatic speedshift gearbox and ECU.
dshift gearbox and ECU.
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Re: V8 Crossfire Conversion Diary
Originally Posted by kanzus
HI Tuners,
Not bad for a first run, isn't it !
Here is the link: YouTube - CLK 55 AMG K 247 Km/h - By KANZUS
CLK 55 AMG K 247 Km/h - By KANZUS
Hearing from You.
Karim.
I just returned from hollydays that I thought deserved, I bring with me a video of my first run with my CLK 55 AMG Kompressor. I assure you that the limit is far from 250 km / h, but I lifted my foot off the accelerator at this level because it is difficult to drive and take the video with the other hand at the same time, I would say that's crazy ..
Not bad for a first run, isn't it !
Here is the link: YouTube - CLK 55 AMG K 247 Km/h - By KANZUS
CLK 55 AMG K 247 Km/h - By KANZUS
Hearing from You.
Karim.
I saw 6,000 rpm - gettin it kinda close to redline, weren't you?
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Hi Tuners,
Are u all in holidays ??
I need some help about transmission programming improvement, now that the car is running.
Transmission ECU, called TCU (Transmission control unit), sometimes called TCM (M as module), is EGS52 family and it is fully programmable.
As you know, I convert my transmission also, now it is an AMG 722.636 speedshift gearbox (of course automatic!), called Tiptronic at MB also.
I did not any changement at the programming, Gear ratio are different from original (3.65 vs AMG 2.85), but 2.85 gear ratio is well programmed in the ECU (ME2.8.1).
Could you help me with your advices, because I tryed to reprogram it using DAS, but no way, I always get error communication and I get complicated information and tables also.
All what I did, is restting TCU because there was few fault codes, espacially 'Torque reached limit' and so on. Tranny Fluid is OK, but it is not smooth when changing gear up and down, it's too brutal.
Do someone can share AMG EGS52 722.636 bin file ?
Hearing from U.
Karim
Are u all in holidays ??
I need some help about transmission programming improvement, now that the car is running.
Transmission ECU, called TCU (Transmission control unit), sometimes called TCM (M as module), is EGS52 family and it is fully programmable.
As you know, I convert my transmission also, now it is an AMG 722.636 speedshift gearbox (of course automatic!), called Tiptronic at MB also.
I did not any changement at the programming, Gear ratio are different from original (3.65 vs AMG 2.85), but 2.85 gear ratio is well programmed in the ECU (ME2.8.1).
Could you help me with your advices, because I tryed to reprogram it using DAS, but no way, I always get error communication and I get complicated information and tables also.
All what I did, is restting TCU because there was few fault codes, espacially 'Torque reached limit' and so on. Tranny Fluid is OK, but it is not smooth when changing gear up and down, it's too brutal.
Do someone can share AMG EGS52 722.636 bin file ?
Hearing from U.
Karim
Re: V8 Crossfire Conversion Diary
Ahhh, I just spent forever reading this whole thread, and your still not done! JEEZ! I know how it goes though, I have a 1st gen rx7 stilling in my garage waiting for me to slide the 2nd gen turbo engine into it, along with a great many other things to go along. These two projects are sick though, and as I get closer to finishing the rx7 I will be looking into one of two engine swaps into my xfire, wither the same here or a 20b twin turbo rotary engine. Looking like the rotary will be far easier electroniclly but harder mechaniclly.
Very good job though to both of you. TX, I really cant wait to see this car off and running. Very nice.
Very good job though to both of you. TX, I really cant wait to see this car off and running. Very nice.
Re: V8 Crossfire Conversion Diary
Originally Posted by CresFresh
Ahhh, I just spent forever reading this whole thread, and your still not done! JEEZ! I know how it goes though, I have a 1st gen rx7 stilling in my garage waiting for me to slide the 2nd gen turbo engine into it, along with a great many other things to go along. These two projects are sick though, and as I get closer to finishing the rx7 I will be looking into one of two engine swaps into my xfire, wither the same here or a 20b twin turbo rotary engine. Looking like the rotary will be far easier electroniclly but harder mechaniclly.
Very good job though to both of you. TX, I really cant wait to see this car off and running. Very nice.
Very good job though to both of you. TX, I really cant wait to see this car off and running. Very nice.
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I have been working on other things but am now back on track. Today I bought the MB Star diagnostic system and an IBM T30 laptop. My uncle who is the race car mechanic will be here for 9 days starting October 10th. I am tying up a few loose ends so that as soon as he gets here we can dig into it. Tomorrow my ECU goes to Beckman to become a virgin again. There is still alot of unknowns but Kanzus' experience is very helpful although there are some different issues we each have to deal with.
The only real concern with the swap is the electronics. the engine swap couldn't be much more straight forward.
Here is the therory:
Program the new ECU to the car using the Star DAS. The Star system does not allow you to chose Crossfire, so I have to select something similar that came with a 5.0 V8. Maybe a C or CLK500? May also have to use developer mode to resolve other issues. Not sure what will happen when it reads a Chrysler VIN number??? No on knows the answers to this but I hope we can work it out so I don't have to put the V6 back in!
I am not changing transmissions but the gear ratios and rear end gears have to match the selected car. this could be a problem but have been told that in developer mode this can all be changed. I do think this has to all be programed correctly prior to trying to start the car. Once the key has been turned three times the ECU is locked again and any changes after that are almost impossible.
The only real concern with the swap is the electronics. the engine swap couldn't be much more straight forward.
Here is the therory:
Program the new ECU to the car using the Star DAS. The Star system does not allow you to chose Crossfire, so I have to select something similar that came with a 5.0 V8. Maybe a C or CLK500? May also have to use developer mode to resolve other issues. Not sure what will happen when it reads a Chrysler VIN number??? No on knows the answers to this but I hope we can work it out so I don't have to put the V6 back in!
I am not changing transmissions but the gear ratios and rear end gears have to match the selected car. this could be a problem but have been told that in developer mode this can all be changed. I do think this has to all be programed correctly prior to trying to start the car. Once the key has been turned three times the ECU is locked again and any changes after that are almost impossible.
Re: V8 Crossfire Conversion Diary
Originally Posted by LantanaTX
I have been working on other things but am now back on track. Today I bought the MB Star diagnostic system and an IBM T30 laptop. My uncle who is the race car mechanic will be here for 9 days starting October 10th. I am tying up a few loose ends so that as soon as he gets here we can dig into it. Tomorrow my ECU goes to Beckman to become a virgin again. There is still alot of unknowns but Kanzus' experience is very helpful although there are some different issues we each have to deal with.
The only real concern with the swap is the electronics. the engine swap couldn't be much more straight forward.
Here is the therory:
Program the new ECU to the car using the Star DAS. The Star system does not allow you to chose Crossfire, so I have to select something similar that came with a 5.0 V8. Maybe a C or CLK500? May also have to use developer mode to resolve other issues. Not sure what will happen when it reads a Chrysler VIN number??? No on knows the answers to this but I hope we can work it out so I don't have to put the V6 back in!
I am not changing transmissions but the gear ratios and rear end gears have to match the selected car. this could be a problem but have been told that in developer mode this can all be changed. I do think this has to all be programed correctly prior to trying to start the car. Once the key has been turned three times the ECU is locked again and any changes after that are almost impossible.
The only real concern with the swap is the electronics. the engine swap couldn't be much more straight forward.
Here is the therory:
Program the new ECU to the car using the Star DAS. The Star system does not allow you to chose Crossfire, so I have to select something similar that came with a 5.0 V8. Maybe a C or CLK500? May also have to use developer mode to resolve other issues. Not sure what will happen when it reads a Chrysler VIN number??? No on knows the answers to this but I hope we can work it out so I don't have to put the V6 back in!
I am not changing transmissions but the gear ratios and rear end gears have to match the selected car. this could be a problem but have been told that in developer mode this can all be changed. I do think this has to all be programed correctly prior to trying to start the car. Once the key has been turned three times the ECU is locked again and any changes after that are almost impossible.
When you say the turn the key 3 times bit, hasn't the key already been turned more than three times. If it's impossible then then it should be impossible now right?? Am I making sense on that one?
Once the ECM is "virgin" again, what's it reading a Chrysler VIN from? Maybe the TCM, maybe, that's all I could think of. Nothing else is going to be VIN specific.
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Re: V8 Crossfire Conversion Diary
Originally Posted by BlueStorm
how are you going to pass the smog inspection with a V8 motor under the hood?
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Re: V8 Crossfire Conversion Diary
Originally Posted by Jeep2Xfire
I'm not trying to take the wind out of your sails, but a couple things crossed my mind reading you post.
When you say the turn the key 3 times bit, hasn't the key already been turned more than three times. If it's impossible then then it should be impossible now right?? Am I making sense on that one?
Once the ECM is "virgin" again, what's it reading a Chrysler VIN from? Maybe the TCM, maybe, that's all I could think of. Nothing else is going to be VIN specific.
Justin
When you say the turn the key 3 times bit, hasn't the key already been turned more than three times. If it's impossible then then it should be impossible now right?? Am I making sense on that one?
Once the ECM is "virgin" again, what's it reading a Chrysler VIN from? Maybe the TCM, maybe, that's all I could think of. Nothing else is going to be VIN specific.
Justin
Every time you start your car, The ECM is checking the key, VIN etc.. to make sure everything jives. If it doesn't the imobilization system kicks in and prevents the car from starting. Most of the IMO data is stored in the dash. This is why some engine swaps require using the dash and ignition key from the donor.