New fender strakes
Re: New fender strakes
Originally Posted by Grumps
I took your advice and air brushed them flat black and sanded the back for a better fit. I believe with better planning and a plastic manufacturers help, he could make a product that the fit and finish are precise. He would only need to worry about a design acceptable to the majority of Crossfire owners. His heart is in the right place, but lacks experience in plastic manufacturing. All his other ideas are either going to be extruded or injected, you can hardly pour side skirts. He needs to rethink his business model and try again. Make a prototype and pass it around to members for comments. This would be a good first start.
Presumably the skirts would be made like the previous catastrophe and the secret is to make them fit without the use of the hardware section at the Home Depot and skilled body shop workers.
Poured urethane parts are OK for pre-production samples but not for production. When we were told of the material that was to be used I mentioned it was wrong.
I worked in the plastics industry design for forty-five years so I do have an inkling about processes.
Re: New fender strakes
Hypr I hope you continue to work on these strakes because they are a great idea. Onehundred80 appears to have a wealth of knowledge in this area that you need to tap. So far he has told you what you can't do, but I bet if you talk to him long enough and ask enough questions you will come away with some valuable info. Good luck.
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Grumps..................that looks kick butt
The day light and the color change turned them into a classy design/style which complements the car.
Now you need to put red running lights under it and those hydraulic shocks so you can jump up and down...
ah ya, maybe next lifetime?
I had wanted to cut actual vent for mine but even I knew it was asking way too much of the hubby.
Hypr now that there's some good feedback and good pictures keep at it despite the insanity of coming back for more.
OK ......back to beating on ya!
Next find some way to make the black parts appear as if they really are vents. Darker on the inside (nearest the car) would be a start, also anyway to add actual mesh or the texture of it where it wouldn't look cheesy? Or should I say so it wouldn't look like it was designed by Mattel. When I say mesh I mean the screen stuff that you see on real side vents. Is there some way to make the final piece have a slot where the screen is slid into at the end of production?
Last this is too much work if your only going to make/market to the Crossfire crowd. Not enough of them. How could your design be adapted to other sports cars? Cars that had larger production numbers.
The day light and the color change turned them into a classy design/style which complements the car.
Now you need to put red running lights under it and those hydraulic shocks so you can jump up and down...
ah ya, maybe next lifetime?
I had wanted to cut actual vent for mine but even I knew it was asking way too much of the hubby.
Hypr now that there's some good feedback and good pictures keep at it despite the insanity of coming back for more.
OK ......back to beating on ya!
Next find some way to make the black parts appear as if they really are vents. Darker on the inside (nearest the car) would be a start, also anyway to add actual mesh or the texture of it where it wouldn't look cheesy? Or should I say so it wouldn't look like it was designed by Mattel. When I say mesh I mean the screen stuff that you see on real side vents. Is there some way to make the final piece have a slot where the screen is slid into at the end of production?
Last this is too much work if your only going to make/market to the Crossfire crowd. Not enough of them. How could your design be adapted to other sports cars? Cars that had larger production numbers.
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Re: New fender strakes
I think that they are too big and clumsy looking, they should be subtle.
Like these;
Chrysler Design Institute - Vehicle Gallery
See Crossfire, photo #5
Like these;
Chrysler Design Institute - Vehicle Gallery
See Crossfire, photo #5
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Re: New fender strakes
Originally Posted by InfernoRedXfire
Really? I hope you're not serious. The fit looks like crap IMHO.
Re: New fender strakes
Originally Posted by onehundred80
I suspect he meant 'In My Honest Opinion' in which case he has many who think the same.
That's the way I took it and I agree. What gets me is giving his lack of responses to this thread, people are still considering his other products sight unseen. Sure people by things via the internet all the time, but most of the time it is with a well known company or through a service like Amazon.
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Well, I think 180 needs to come out of retirement, pull some strings, and make these out of the right material.... Too bad it didn't work out as well as we all thought it would, or wouldn't depending on the side of the fence you are standing on....but at least he is trying...
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While I can appreciate the posts urging Hypr to not give up, I do have a problem with that. He delayed the initial shipment because he knew that they were not fit to install on these cars. When he did finally ship them, he knew that they were not acceptable and that the purchasers would not be happy with them. He has not been back here to post a comment since the shipment. In my opinion a man of integrity would have eaten the loss before sending an inferior product to members of this forum. I am sure that this has been a learning lesson for him, but he should have learned on his own dime. When he had a perfected product, he could have then sold it for enough to recoup his R&D. I know his intentions were good, but his execution was horrid. I personally would not be able to sleep at night knowing that I had charged people for something that I knew that they could not use. For this reason... I do not have any respect for Hyper, and hope that he abandons his other ideas.
Re: New fender strakes
Originally Posted by bmorgan
While I can appreciate the posts urging Hypr to not give up, I do have a problem with that. He delayed the initial shipment because he knew that they were not fit to install on these cars. When he did finally ship them, he knew that they were not acceptable and that the purchasers would not be happy with them. He has not been back here to post a comment since the shipment. In my opinion a man of integrity would have eaten the loss before sending an inferior product to members of this forum. I am sure that this has been a learning lesson for him, but he should have learned on his own dime. When he had a perfected product, he could have then sold it for enough to recoup his R&D. I know his intentions were good, but his execution was horrid. I personally would not be able to sleep at night knowing that I had charged people for something that I knew that they could not use. For this reason... I do not have any respect for Hyper, and hope that he abandons his other ideas.
Unfortunately, this is also the way I see it and agree completely.
Re: New fender strakes
Originally Posted by oledoc2u
Well, I think 180 needs to come out of retirement, pull some strings, and make these out of the right material.... Too bad it didn't work out as well as we all thought it would, or wouldn't depending on the side of the fence you are standing on....but at least he is trying...
The best vent design I have seen was the one on the prototype in the Chrysler museum. Frankly I would rather not have had one at all than have the OEM design.
Making grilles by comparison is very easy. Although I have yet to see a grille that looks better than the OEM ones and those that have been modified by painting or the addition of a little chrome. But that's just my opinion and I do not have opinions about too much.