Base model Windshield Trim looks faded
Re: Base model Windshield Trim looks faded
Originally Posted by psu_doug
Happen to anyone else? Can't tell if its faded or wax residue but it doesn't look good and its only an 07.
Does anyone know if this is covered by factory warranty?
Has anyone used a cleaning compound to get the black back to black?
thanks guys/gals
Does anyone know if this is covered by factory warranty?
Has anyone used a cleaning compound to get the black back to black?
thanks guys/gals
Do you have any pictures of the area so we can get a better idea of the fading/staining/general dullness?
Re: Base model Windshield Trim looks faded
Yes - I am talking about the windshield surround that is black on base models but silver on limited/srt6 models. I will try and get some pics up in the next few days. I have been meaning to take some pics of the car anyway.
I mean its not terrible but there is no reason for it being the car is an 07. I am hoping it might just be wax residue but not sure.
I mean its not terrible but there is no reason for it being the car is an 07. I am hoping it might just be wax residue but not sure.
Re: Base model Windshield Trim looks faded
jumped the gun, need to read more slowly
I have only seen 1 base model around here but the surround did seem to lack the depth of the rest of the car. Maybe it didn't receive the same love as the rest of the paint when detailing time came at the dealership?
I have only seen 1 base model around here but the surround did seem to lack the depth of the rest of the car. Maybe it didn't receive the same love as the rest of the paint when detailing time came at the dealership?
Last edited by Airscape; 08-26-2009 at 05:40 PM.
Re: Base model Windshield Trim looks faded
I have the same problem with my 2007 base car.
The black windshield trim is badly oxidized, with a white coat.
Using plastic polish seems to help for a short time, but it quickly fades.
If anyone has found a solution, please post it.
BTW, the insdie of this black plastic trim is white. I know because an errant rock took out my windshield, bounced against the trim and chipped it.
I've tried the back to black vinyl treatment, but it does not go into the surface and help as it does with soft trim. Turtle wax black car polish does not work either. Although it's great on the paint.
I am ready to try black wax shoe polish....
The black windshield trim is badly oxidized, with a white coat.
Using plastic polish seems to help for a short time, but it quickly fades.
If anyone has found a solution, please post it.
BTW, the insdie of this black plastic trim is white. I know because an errant rock took out my windshield, bounced against the trim and chipped it.
I've tried the back to black vinyl treatment, but it does not go into the surface and help as it does with soft trim. Turtle wax black car polish does not work either. Although it's great on the paint.
I am ready to try black wax shoe polish....
Last edited by brucero; 08-26-2009 at 07:43 PM.
Re: Base model Windshield Trim looks faded
I to have a 2007 Black base coupe. When I got my car I thought that trim was normally matte in color.
When I realized that the windshield surround was supposed shine, I started to ask and look around for a cure. I tried everything including peanut oil, back to black,ect. Finally someone on here mentioned Scratch X20 (Meguiars) I couldn't believe it. It shines just like the rest of the car. Just do a small portion of the surround at a time. It seems to come off a little bit at a time. You have to rub fairly hard but it works. I did mine 3 times before I was satisfied, but it was worth it. I waxed it with Meguiars NXT tech wax 2.0. that was about 2 months ago still looks great.
Let us know how it works for you.
Remember Black Crossfires are fastest.
Joejet
2007 Black Coupe base (with a shiny surround)
When I realized that the windshield surround was supposed shine, I started to ask and look around for a cure. I tried everything including peanut oil, back to black,ect. Finally someone on here mentioned Scratch X20 (Meguiars) I couldn't believe it. It shines just like the rest of the car. Just do a small portion of the surround at a time. It seems to come off a little bit at a time. You have to rub fairly hard but it works. I did mine 3 times before I was satisfied, but it was worth it. I waxed it with Meguiars NXT tech wax 2.0. that was about 2 months ago still looks great.
Let us know how it works for you.
Remember Black Crossfires are fastest.
Joejet
2007 Black Coupe base (with a shiny surround)
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Re: Base model Windshield Trim looks faded
I had the same problem on my '07 Base Coupe, prior to it being totaled...
I took it to the dealer and replaced it under warranty. This was the only correction that I could find that was long lasting.
Every other method I used to repair the oxidation failed miserably.
Good luck with everything and take the warranty if you can.
I took it to the dealer and replaced it under warranty. This was the only correction that I could find that was long lasting.
Every other method I used to repair the oxidation failed miserably.
Good luck with everything and take the warranty if you can.
Re: Base model Windshield Trim looks faded
Originally Posted by joejet
I to have a 2007 Black base coupe. When I got my car I thought that trim was normally matte in color.
When I realized that the windshield surround was supposed shine, I started to ask and look around for a cure. I tried everything including peanut oil, back to black,ect. Finally someone on here mentioned Scratch X20 (Meguiars) I couldn't believe it. It shines just like the rest of the car. Just do a small portion of the surround at a time. It seems to come off a little bit at a time. You have to rub fairly hard but it works. I did mine 3 times before I was satisfied, but it was worth it. I waxed it with Meguiars NXT tech wax 2.0. that was about 2 months ago still looks great.
Let us know how it works for you.
Remember Black Crossfires are fastest.
Joejet
2007 Black Coupe base (with a shiny surround)
When I realized that the windshield surround was supposed shine, I started to ask and look around for a cure. I tried everything including peanut oil, back to black,ect. Finally someone on here mentioned Scratch X20 (Meguiars) I couldn't believe it. It shines just like the rest of the car. Just do a small portion of the surround at a time. It seems to come off a little bit at a time. You have to rub fairly hard but it works. I did mine 3 times before I was satisfied, but it was worth it. I waxed it with Meguiars NXT tech wax 2.0. that was about 2 months ago still looks great.
Let us know how it works for you.
Remember Black Crossfires are fastest.
Joejet
2007 Black Coupe base (with a shiny surround)
Joejet, did you notice any black paint transferring onto your applicator when using the ScratchX 2.0? If so that tells me the surround is single stage paint, not clear coated like the rest of the car. That would also account for the rapid oxidation of the finish. But I must say I would be surprised to find that the windshield surround is covered in a single stage paint - that just sounds odd in this day and age.
In any event, since ScratchX 2.0 worked well for you, I would suggest regular use of a paint cleaner and wax - in fact, just a decent cleaner wax (Meguiar's and Mother's both make readily available cleaner waxes) would keep the oxidation at bay and protect the finish. Seriously, I'd do a quick application once a month. No need to use a lot of pressure, just treat it like a regular wax, but do it every month.
Re: Base model Windshield Trim looks faded
Mike,
Thanks for the sugestion about wax and cleaner,I will definitely use it.
I have seen Chars car when we ran at the Texas Speedway,thats when I realized my surround wasn't right. She has a Black base roadster. She said she never had a problem with hers.
As to the cloth color when I finished,no black at all. I'd say maybe light yellow,or light brown. but not much.
I hope this info helps other Black base owners. I'm glad I was finally able to contribute.
And thank you Mike for all your info. on keeping our Black cars looking just a little nicer than all others.
Joejet
Thanks for the sugestion about wax and cleaner,I will definitely use it.
I have seen Chars car when we ran at the Texas Speedway,thats when I realized my surround wasn't right. She has a Black base roadster. She said she never had a problem with hers.
As to the cloth color when I finished,no black at all. I'd say maybe light yellow,or light brown. but not much.
I hope this info helps other Black base owners. I'm glad I was finally able to contribute.
And thank you Mike for all your info. on keeping our Black cars looking just a little nicer than all others.
Joejet
Re: Base model Windshield Trim looks faded
Thanks joejet, based on this thread, I bought the Scratch X 20 at Shucks auto...$10.00 for a small tube.
It works! A few observations:
A LOT of rubbing and presssure is necessary to cut through the oxidization.
There was a dark grey residue on the polishing cloth as the oxidization came off. This product is designed for paint, and it does cut through without obvious damage. I was able to get about 1/4 of the complete surround done before my muscles gave out.
I agree, it will take about 3 treatments to remove all the discoloration, but about 80% goes away on the first treatment. This is going to take time.
I would be hesitant to use a power tool to apply this product as it could cut too deep and damage the surround or the rubber immediately surrounding the plastic.
The results require a lot of work, but are worth it.
A few hints.. wear gloves, as the polish is caustic, and keep your hands away from your nose and eyes for the same reason.
It works 10x better than the plastic polish I had used before. I think this product is the answer. With maintenance, this area should look as great as the rest of the car.
Again, thanks joejet and all:
It works! A few observations:
A LOT of rubbing and presssure is necessary to cut through the oxidization.
There was a dark grey residue on the polishing cloth as the oxidization came off. This product is designed for paint, and it does cut through without obvious damage. I was able to get about 1/4 of the complete surround done before my muscles gave out.
I agree, it will take about 3 treatments to remove all the discoloration, but about 80% goes away on the first treatment. This is going to take time.
I would be hesitant to use a power tool to apply this product as it could cut too deep and damage the surround or the rubber immediately surrounding the plastic.
The results require a lot of work, but are worth it.
A few hints.. wear gloves, as the polish is caustic, and keep your hands away from your nose and eyes for the same reason.
It works 10x better than the plastic polish I had used before. I think this product is the answer. With maintenance, this area should look as great as the rest of the car.
Again, thanks joejet and all:
Re: Base model Windshield Trim looks faded
Brucero,
Pretty amazing isn' it. After the first application I used masking tape on the rubber. Use either the blue or purple tape. Don"t use regular masking tape. It will leave a residue on the rubber.
Glad I was able to help. Pass it on to the next Black base guy that asks
Joejet
2007 Black base coupe
Pretty amazing isn' it. After the first application I used masking tape on the rubber. Use either the blue or purple tape. Don"t use regular masking tape. It will leave a residue on the rubber.
Glad I was able to help. Pass it on to the next Black base guy that asks
Joejet
2007 Black base coupe
Re: Base model Windshield Trim looks faded
Originally Posted by Peterk
I had this issue on my 07 black base, it NEEDS to be repainted, dealer does this under warranty. Anything else is half assing it and it will come back, trust me.
Re: Base model Windshield Trim looks faded
I have a 05 base and my window trim has the clear coat pealing off it real bad. I think they didnt paint these right or something because I wax my car quite a bit. I run a detail shop for about 6 years now and the only reason I can see is bad paint
Re: Base model Windshield Trim looks faded
Do many of you leave your cars outside all the time or have extremely harsh elements??
I have an '05 base and my surround looks fine. I have kept it waxed and all, but the fact that my car (before it was mine) sat in a garage, it may not be oxidized like some of the others out there. Just trying to think critically here....
I have an '05 base and my surround looks fine. I have kept it waxed and all, but the fact that my car (before it was mine) sat in a garage, it may not be oxidized like some of the others out there. Just trying to think critically here....
Re: Base model Windshield Trim looks faded
I know exactly what the OP is referring to.
My 2007 XF's windshield surround oxidized and my car only has 5700 miles on it. I garage keep it 24/7 and rarely ever let it sit out in the sun.
It's a part that got a crappy paintjob from the factory and needs to be replaced under warranty.
My 2007 XF's windshield surround oxidized and my car only has 5700 miles on it. I garage keep it 24/7 and rarely ever let it sit out in the sun.
It's a part that got a crappy paintjob from the factory and needs to be replaced under warranty.