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Old 12-22-2012 | 08:45 PM
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I had a boost sensor added to my manifold and reinstalled mani gaskets because I have been suspecting a leak from iradic low rpm idle. It will stay at about 500-600 but then die down and the dash lights dim before jumping back up to normal idle RPM while sitting still at a light.

This time I installed the cork mani gaskets I sprayed them with copper gasket sealer and installed the mani bolts with locktite and torqued them to 10ft/lbs using center out technique. I have had these off before and did the cork gaskets without problems.

Now after the manis are reinstalled the idle is at 2,000 and jumps down and then back up. Reving it doesn't lower it and I have done a throttle reset twice.

Any other ideas or things I should try?
 
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Old 12-22-2012 | 08:48 PM
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Did you reconnect the PCV hose to the intake?
 
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Old 12-22-2012 | 08:50 PM
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Yes. I just tried another throttle reset and back to 2,000. Now the check engine light is on. All the hoses are tight.
 
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Old 12-22-2012 | 08:52 PM
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corky bell tig welded the MAP sensor bung. Tappered threads so no plumbers tape right?
 

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Old 12-22-2012 | 08:58 PM
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Yes. I just tried another throttle reset and back to 2,000. Now the check engine light is on. All the hoses are tight.

What's the code?
 
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Old 12-22-2012 | 08:59 PM
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Originally Posted by JesseJamessrt6
corky bell tig welded the MAP sensor bung.
Just as a matter of interest, how long did he take for that job?
I'd say you definitely have a leak.
 
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Old 12-22-2012 | 09:06 PM
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Old 12-22-2012 | 09:06 PM
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Id say that you have a leak also, use a hose to listen to the areas around the manifolds, and see if you can find the leaking region. WDY
 
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Old 12-22-2012 | 09:09 PM
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What's the code?
I don't have a scanner to read the code
 
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Old 12-22-2012 | 09:15 PM
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I torqued down the manis before the copper srpay fully dried. I will try the hose stethescope Woody.
 
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Old 12-22-2012 | 09:31 PM
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I couldn't locate a leak but I did see that the gasket is squished out more than the first cork gasket I did. I think the copper spray not being fully dry squirted it out. Bummer. I just ordered two new sets from Rob via express, now christmas holiday to wait.

Now I need a code reader, can one of you guys point me in the right direction? I already have an OBDII cable if that helps.
 

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Old 12-23-2012 | 08:01 AM
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Default Re: high idle after intake manis reinstalled???

Originally Posted by JesseJamessrt6
I couldn't locate a leak but I did see that the gasket is squished out more than the first cork gasket I did. I think the copper spray not being fully dry squirted it out. Bummer. I just ordered two new sets from Rob via express, now christmas holiday to wait.

Now I need a code reader, can one of you guys point me in the right direction? I already have an OBDII cable if that helps.
https://www.crossfireforum.org/forum...tml#post714526
 
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Old 12-23-2012 | 08:06 AM
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I'm late to the party and you already know you have a leak. As a victim of past leaks I can tell you that I've never had an idle that high so you must have a whopper. For a slight leak the idle is a little high and won't settle quickly. I managed to pinch a metal one once.

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Old 12-23-2012 | 08:27 AM
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you use copper spray on the OEM metal gaskets not the cork gaskets. I would remove the manis, and re-install with new cork gaskets no spray....
 
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Old 12-23-2012 | 08:34 AM
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Oh no! I used copper spray on my corkers this last time. Time will tell but so far, so good.

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Old 12-23-2012 | 08:39 AM
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doesn't do much for cork...may even eat away at the cork....I won't use cork anymore...unless I am out of the oem one's.....last resort.....
 
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Old 12-26-2012 | 03:43 PM
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Default Re: high idle after intake manis reinstalled???

Thanks for chimming in guys, and I know you have lots of gaskets installed Les. I am picking up OEM intake mani gaskets at mercedes tomorrow, will spray with copper. I ordered 2 sets of cork from Rob.

I know that Anthony favors oem and I guess you do too doc, but Steve and Les favor cork. right?

I also stripped the head of one of the mani bolts when torquing and let the wrench slip. Any ideas of a similar bolt that will work for a few days like from home depot or lowes until the replacements show up from Rob?
 
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Old 12-26-2012 | 04:15 PM
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If you can find a similar size bolt, it will work ok, the torque is relative low in the scheme of things. Should be OK.

For what it is worth, I hate cork gasket material, squishes out all together too easily. Neoprene / cork works ok and is a bit more stable. I also do copper coat on all gaskets with success to date. Composition material works for me but it has little squish capability and can be only used in parallel surface applications that dont need a lot of CAULKING to fill them.

Happy holiday, Wdy
 
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Old 12-26-2012 | 04:17 PM
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2 options on the bolt. Take a hack saw and make a slot for a regular screwdriver. File the sides square so you can use a socket. Temp. solutions only.
I have a love hate relationship with the cork gaskets. They seem to seal better when they're installed perfectly. What's perfect took a whole lot of sets of gaskets and headaches. The stock gaskets with the copper spray seem to be the way for ease, instal and forget.

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Old 12-26-2012 | 04:52 PM
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great feedback again, thanks! I just found out that gaskets and bolts from Rob will be here Friday!
 


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