I just got back from Autozone to get some ATF+4 for one of my other vehicles. While there I noticed Mobil1 ATF Synthetic for less than $10/ quart.

With my trans service due soon, I got looking at the bottle. It lists Mercedes Benz 236.1, 236.2, 236.5, 236.7, & 236.9. My first thought is that it should be good to go.

But I wanted to check here first. What do you guys think?

James

 

James ... I posted pics of the tranny fluid from Mopar specifically formulated for Sprinter/crossfires.
Check the thread labeled Transmission Issues Fixed (I think that was it, or close to it) post #14. Sorry I don't know how to link. You'll see that it is MB236.14, and is stated to be compatible with MB236.12. Don't know if the Mobil is OK, or not. Just telling what's on the label of the MOPAR fluid. Maybe someone else will chime in ......

 

Howard, I do recall those numbers you posted and thanks . But am I correct in assuming that 236.2 supersedes the numbers 236.1x you posted?

 

Having a scientific background that usually questions everything, (Pharmacy), I have a resistance to "assuming" things like this. That's why I asked others to chime in. Hopefully someone who can definitely solve this. I have read where others have used the Mobil 1, and seemingly have had no problems, but I have also read (somewhere) that the auto tranny that we have needs to use the "correct" fluid at the service interval to ensure that it never needs service again. (at least thats what I also have read) Also, from what I again have read, is that the balance of special lubes are present to assure proper lubrication. Engineered in Germany by MB and distributed by Mopar . That's about all I can help you with ..... and thats why I bit the bullet and used the Mopar stuff in my tranny at our GTG at Johns house. I just didn't want to take the chance. Expensive yes .... but......

 

https://www.crossfireforum.org/forum/605105-post14.html

 

Looks OK to me.

Mercedes-Benz Betriebsstoff-Vorschriften: Motoröl, Getriebeöl, ATF, Kühlmittel, Bremsflüssigkeiten

Les

 

Quoting the wrong fluid Les. Here's the correct one (236.10, not 236.14) Mercedes-Benz Betriebsstoff-Vorschriften: Motoröl, Getriebeöl, ATF, Kühlmittel, Bremsflüssigkeiten

These cars, especially the SRT's need a fluid that is approved for the 236.10 spec. Mobil1 ATF is NOT on the list and from my personal observations, not a fluid I would recommend. I won't even recommend the newest 236.14 fluid for our cars as Mercedes only wanted to cut down the different part numbers on their shelves and since most people driving these cars could really care less if their performance is slightly degraded as a result. For most, it goes unnoticed. I for one can tell you first hand the 236.10 fluid shifts firmer and more predictably than the 236.14.

 

Oops! I just looked at the picture of the Mopar ATF (has 236.14 on the front) and did a search. Now I understand why the confusion.

Les

 

Thanks Rudy, So how do I get 236.10? The Crossfire/Sprinter fluid from Chrysler says 236.14 right on the bottle. Do I go to MB dealer? or?

James

 

Mercedes ATF Transmission Fluid MBZ Approval:236.10 001989210310 - RM European Auto Parts

This is the exact same 236.10 fluid Mercedes used to sell without the MB label on it and is the correct spec for the 722.6 transmissions.

You can use coupon code SUMMER2011 for 3% off your order up to $150.

 

See .... I knew experts would chime in .... don't you luv it .......

 

Rudy, would you recommend buying the filter from them as well? If so, do you have a part number, the search option won't allow Crossfire on their site. Thanks agian, James

 

You can get the filter from them as well as the seal around the bottom and the crush washer for the drain plug.

Mercedes Transmission Filter 1402770095 - RM European Auto Parts

Mercedes Transmission Pan Gasket 1402710080 - RM European Auto Parts

Mercedes Seal Ring (10 X 20 mm) Automatic Transmission Drain Plug 1402710060 - RM European Auto Parts

 

Amsoil ATF is really good for our cars...See their specs below... Why spend more than you need to for the overpriced MB fluid when Amsoil is just as good or better.

• MB 236.1, 236.2, 236.5, 236.6, 236.7, 236.9 & 236.10

 

I wouldn't sham on transmission fluid. Crossfire transmissions (really the whole vehicle) are like women, very sensitive and picky. The type and quality of fluid you use can greatly affect how your car rides. If you want to go for the best kind of transmission fluid I would go with the Fuchs Titan ATF 4134 - Mercedes MB 236.14. It is the new transmission fluid that is now used universally in all Mercedes transmissions from 97 - present. It can be used for MB236.12 transmissions. Below is a link that talks about it. They even mention that it is compatible with Chrysler Crossfire specifically on the second paragraph from the bottom.

Fuchs Titan ATF 4134 for Mercedes - meets MB 236.14

I went and spoke with the Mercedes dealer about it and its compatibility with SLK's and Crossfires and the guy didn't recognize it by the name Titan 4134 since that's its manufactured name before they change the bottle for Mercedes. They recognize it as MB134 or ATF134 or something like that.

It's expensive via internet since it is imported via Europe but I'm getting another transmission installed into my crossfire and have to fill it completely (torque converter and everything, about 8-9.5 quarts) later this week and my fathers mechanic knows where to get 5 liter jugs for $36.00. I don't know if they have a website but I'll find out their info for people interested. Its in the Florida area. I'm sure there are other places that can get it for a better price as well.

Other transmission suggestions (performance transmission fluids):
TCI Max shift fluid
Red line
Royal Purple
Even though I don't race my Crossfire I definitely would choose performance fluids for the best tranny fluid.

 

I'm getting ready to do this service and I have records showing that the dealer has topped off the trans with the MOPAR 236.14 fluid when they fixed a leak.

Am I safe to use the 236.10 when I drain and replace the filter knowing this would not completely flush the system ?
thanks

 

Hi all,

I called dodge today about atf fluid. They have Mopar fluid part #5127382ab
It says on the bottle that it meets MB specs of 236.10 and 236.12 at $24 a quart there

Then I called Mercedes and they have atf fluid part #001-989-68-03-13 and that meets approval 236.14 at $20 quart

I also see some people recommend fuchs titan atf 134 over the MB fluid.

From what I understand, the nag1 transmission uses 236.14. is this correct?
Im seriously having the hardest time finding a straight answer on what I need to use. I understand the specificness of the AT's and how specific the ATF needs to be which is why I'm making sure before hand.

bottom line question - which spec does my 04 crossfire ATF fluid need to meet? .10, .12, or .14?

Which would I need?

Any input is greatly appreciated. Thanks

Eric

 

This is the definitive answer;

Quote:

Originally Posted by rcompart

Mercedes ATF Transmission Fluid MBZ Approval:236.10 001989210310 - RM European Auto Parts

This is the exact same 236.10 fluid Mercedes used to sell without the MB label on it and is the correct spec for the 722.6 transmissions.

You can use coupon code SUMMER2011 for 3% off your order up to $150.

Remember----- 236.10
The Owners manual says to use Shell 3403 ATF.

 

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Remember----- 236.10
The Owners manual says to use Shell 3403 ATF.


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got it, so 236.10 is the correct spec. and we can use shell 3403

any recommendations on the fuchs? I want to put pretty much the best in there if I can afford to

 

got it, so 236.10 is the correct spec. and we can use shell 3403

any recommendations on the fuchs? I want to put pretty much the best in there if I can afford to[/QUOTE]
Fuchs? Sure, as long as its 236.10 spec. I cannot see any that matches that spec though.
What's so special about about Fuchs?