Now you've got me slobberin' all over my keyboard....

 

Check out Billy Boat's soundbytes for their exhaust mods www.bbexhaust.com

Email them for inquiry so that we can buy our Crossfire version : info@bbexhaust.com

 

These are some of the websites for the mods done on the Crossfires ( Speedster and Drifter )

1. www.bbexhaust.com ( Speedster )
2. www.greenfilterusa.com ( Speedster )
3. www.psi-motorsport.com ( Drifter )
4. www.stoptech.com ( Drifter )
5. www.motec.com ( Speedster )
6. www.renntechmercedes.com ( Speedster )
7. www.upsolute.com ( ECU chip )
8. www.kwsuspension.com ( Drifter coilovers )

 

the green filter cold air intake looks like it doesnt work worth a dam. Unless you get rid of the stock air box you cant increase hp by anthing that can even be measured.

 

Unless you design and engineered your own cold air intake which is better than that set up , you have the right to say that....but this product has been researched and designed by formula 1 engineers!

 

I got a reply from Billy Boat. Its a no go. The speedster was a one of a kind system and they have no plans to make it available for sale.


"Chris the car at SEMA was a one of a kind and there are no plans to make
the system available for sale. Our cost to fully develop a system is
between $4,000.00 and $6,000.00 which needs to be recouped by spreading
those costs over several hundred exhaust systems. Thanks for your
inquiry. "

 

I still don't get it why they can build it for the Viper and Corvette whose production is less than our Crossfires. Plus, it's already installed on that Speedster...which means they already have a mold for it and it's the final thing! I think some people made it to the top even if their mind thinks like a Billy Goat!

 

Ha, I emailed BB the other day and got a nearly identical response. There's a company out in Virginia (or possibly Maryland) that does fantastic work. There was a guy on the Stratus board raving about them and now a few members are trying to get a group buy going for a new cat back system. I'll find out the information and see if they're interested in putting something together for us.

 

I emailed Billy Boat ( www.bbexhaust.com ) today with this content

" I was just wondering why you can't re-produce the tri-flow titanium exhaust that you slap in the Crossfire Speedster the fact that this car has been in the 50,000 production compared to the Viper and Corvette's production. If you've already produced the prototype, why waste the efforts of your research and initial cost of building the prototype? Does that mean that the one you advertised for the Speedster in the 2004 SEMA is non-functional exhaust at all? Call it bad marketing then 'cause you just loss credibility from the thousand Crossfire owners who could have been your future customers. You also have to consider you have a lot of competition around the market for exhaust. And about the Viper exhaust, I wonder how you make money in a very low production car.

I'm writing you this email to express my disappointment about your lack of interest in the Crossfire exhaust.

Thank you anyway and good luck!

Cyril Baldwin
Senior Member
www.crossfireforum.com

 

I just listened to the sound bites on this site; the Corvette sound is very similar to my exhaust.

I don't know why you guys are wasting your time with these aftermarket suppliers when all you have to do is go to a good, reputable exhaust shop and have them custom make your catback system; In my case, it was a lot less expensive than some of the prices I have been seeing for Billy Boat, Mopar/Borla, etc.

 

I'm not sure if YOUR system is Legal Here in California ?

 

It certainly is emissions clean and as long as it is determined not to be too loud, I wouldn't see a problem.

 

Turbocharging is the way to go assuming you can package it. You run into a couple problems but they've already been stated.
1) Chrysler doesn't make tuner-friendly computers
2) Boost (and ultimate power) will be limited due to the high compression and lack of intercooler room

Plumbing a turbo system isn't that hard. Take it from a self-educated boostaholic. All of my vehicles are turbocharged and modified.

92 D-250 Cummins diesel (27 psi boost and 700 ft/lbs at 248,000 miles)
86 Shelby Charger (12 psi boost and more coming if I don't do a Crossfire)
65 Plymouth Belvedere twin turbo 440 (657 hp/742 tq and nearly finished with my EFI conversion)

There's no Crossfire listed because I came here to learn from current owners to see if I really want to purchase one.

I could probably handle the packaging issues with a little work but the computer would get a wee bit upset. That takes all the fun out of the turbo. As for lag, forget it. Tune your turbo sizing properly and it's no biggie.

 

Is it TURBO or SUPERCHARGER?

 

I believe he's talking TURBO; size of turbo housing makes a difference in type of performance you require.

 

Definately turbo.

Here's my latest project:



It's much farther along than that. I should be firing it up again this weekend.

Superchargers are ok, but turbos get the job done better and with less intake heat.

 

I think it's hard to just slap a turbo or a supercharger in our Merc engine due to its high compression. A lot of things need to be considered and replaced costing you more $$$ or it will blow up your engine! Unless you bore a hole on it and decrease the compression just like what Renntech did making our 3.2 to 3.8 liter engine

 

I know a little about MB engines. I work for a Mercedes dealer parts dept. We've got an enthusiastic performance oriented client base. I don't know of any other dealers with the same number of AMG models on the lot. We've been buying the SL 65s, CL 65s, S 65s, and lots of various AMG models from MBUSA and other dealers.

Anyway, I know that these little engines are fairly stout and will take some punishment before the surrender.
Boost is good, just don't go too far. If you really want to push it, you'd better have a good intercooler and/or water/alky injection.

 

feets:
With your knowledge of the Merc 3.2, do you think (now forget price for a moment!!!), that the Kleeman super charger is a good answer as it is a straight bolt on? No internals mods, 7 lbs. boost and with thier matching, chip 350 hp. They also say that their intercooler is superior to the SRT6 unit. What's your thoughts?

 

How about an Eaton Supercharger?