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Old 12-14-2011 | 10:29 AM
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I think there should definitely be some sort of branding on the pipe, and for anyone who knows me, that is saying alot as I am very anti-anything cluttering up the car, I have no badges or identifying marks anywhere on the car.

I have eliminated 99% of the silver on my car so that would not be the way for me, but did you say he would have other options available? I personally think matte black or matte grey would look fantastic....
 
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Old 12-14-2011 | 10:34 AM
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Orange? What do you guys think? I am thinking black or silver as the standard color. Maybe some sort of textured silver? I would also like to maybe see a BEGi or Corky Bell branding on it. Maybe using his name will distinguish these cars from the rest, like other top tuners names have done for other cars such as Henessey, Roush, Saleen, Brabus, Renntech, Kleemann, Lorinser, Shelby. Branding might help resale value. Maybe with a BEGi logo with Corky Bell signature and numbering? For expample DJ would be 001. Thouhgts?
I like that idea with the numbering and the BEGi emblem signed by Corky. I think the textured silver or a black would be ideal for standard. I like the idea (especially being in CA) of having the car resemble a "stock" look as much as possible.
 
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Old 12-14-2011 | 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by LantanaTX
Orange? What do you guys think? I am thinking black or silver as the standard color. Maybe some sort of textured silver? I would also like to maybe see a BEGi or Corky Bell branding on it. Maybe using his name will distinguish these cars from the rest, like other top tuners names have done for other cars such as Henessey, Roush, Saleen, Brabus, Renntech, Kleemann, Lorinser, Shelby. Branding might help resale value. Maybe with a BEGi logo with Corky Bell signature and numbering? For expample DJ would be 001. Thouhgts?
textured silver or silver defiantly with a Corky BEGI logo how about something like this, I did not have much time to mess with it as I am really busy at work lately.
 
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Old 12-14-2011 | 02:15 PM
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I'm still ready to roll with this project guys. I like the idea of a plaque or plate. I alos thought about maybe a decal saying "Turbo by BEGI" or something along those lines. The money doesn't scare me. If you guys need to shuffle me in the order that would be fine. Like other people have said many thanks to LantanaTX for playing middle man as this project would've never got started without you.
 
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Old 12-14-2011 | 02:17 PM
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And I agree with the worrying about everyone holding hands and jumping in at once... It is weird to rely on people do not know. I get excited about the project then I worry that it will fall apart. I have had a few projects fall apart with people I actually knew and thought I trusted because of monetary reasons. People always have the intentions of doing something but when it comes to biting the bullet and throwing the cash down that is when bumps in the road start appearing. And I totally understand why with how tight everything is right now.

Heck my wife is going to spin my head around when she finds out how much money I am going to be "Wasting" on this.
 
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Old 12-14-2011 | 03:07 PM
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Heck my wife is going to spin my head around when she finds out how much money I am going to be "Wasting" on this.
LOL... I just tell mine "haven't spent as much as your Tahoe cost" when she turns her head down that road..real good conversation ender .
 
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Old 12-14-2011 | 03:24 PM
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LOL... I just tell mine "haven't spent as much as your Tahoe cost" when she turns her head down that road..real good conversation ender .
I wish that would work for me... I have wasted so much money on projects I always get the questioning eye when I make any purchase haha. My friend Tony is in the same boat... We just always end up with these costly projects that either sit there or have no resale value...
For example we somehow both ended up with 4 50cc scooters a pieces that we tuned up... Why in the world would you buy 4 scooters?!? Tony is no longer allowed on Craigs list when we have been drinking for this reason.

But I do have a 50cc scooter that use to only go 30mph that now goes 85mph... It is so unsafe but fun to cruse around on. Cars are always impressed when I shoot out in front of them haha.
 
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Old 12-14-2011 | 03:32 PM
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I would go with a neutral color so it matches everybodys car (matte black) and thats coming from somebody who would love silver...

I had a turbo rx8 and lived in ca, trust me from experience that its better to go black and look stock!!! If you want badging, have it not that noticable and do not put turbo anywhere on it!!!

I like your quick badge design by the way.


My 2 cents....
 
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Old 12-14-2011 | 03:43 PM
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I would go with a neutral color so it matches everybodys car (matte black) and thats coming from somebody who would love silver...

I had a turbo rx8 and lived in ca, trust me from experience that its better to go black and look stock!!! If you want badging, have it not that noticable and do not put turbo anywhere on it!!!

I like your quick badge design by the way.


My 2 cents....
Thanks, I would pay extra for silver if black ends up being the color everyone wants.
 
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Old 12-14-2011 | 07:01 PM
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I would be happy with matte or gloss black. I also think a very small square emblem that says BEGi on the bottom of the front fenders would be nice.
 
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Old 12-15-2011 | 12:28 AM
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Had a great talk with Corky today and he said he could include an optional decal with numbering. I think he cduld sign it and add a number. Corky also mentioned that while we waiit on the first car to get started he would get some short pieces of tubing power coaated in a couple of colors to see how it looks and we all think. He said there is also a hammered look but worried it would make the pipe look like lawn furniture.
 
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Old 12-15-2011 | 07:18 AM
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Is Orange in the "test colors"
 
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Old 12-15-2011 | 07:22 AM
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Happened across this thread while at work tonight and made me giddy and grin like a dern fool. I think I would be serously interested in this myself as I havent yet started making power mods to my 05 limited. Guess come first of the year im gonna have to pack in the overtime to plan some funds towards one of these if all goes well.
 

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Old 12-15-2011 | 09:23 AM
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Hey guys, I am pretty sure this is in my future but have a question. Will this include a handheld tuner or will we have to go find someone with a tuner to tweak the parameters? I have an EC tune and the MAF screen/elbow baffles removal mods in total. Thanks!

Also, will getting the TCU update from EC affect or be affected by the turbo upgrade, before or after?
 

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Old 12-15-2011 | 11:14 AM
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Hey guys, I am pretty sure this is in my future but have a question. Will this include a handheld tuner or will we have to go find someone with a tuner to tweak the parameters? I have an EC tune and the MAF screen/elbow baffles removal mods in total. Thanks!

Also, will getting the TCU update from EC affect or be affected by the turbo upgrade, before or after?
There will be no need for additonal tuning. I would highly suggest having the stock tune before installing the kit. Tuning involves keeping the air fuel ratio correct and and keeping the MAF sensor in check. This has been factored into the kit price. I highly doubt the elbow from the MAF sensor to the throttle body will still be on the car after kit installation. I believe the charge pipe will be similar to a Needswings intake and eliminate the elbow.
 
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Old 12-15-2011 | 11:44 AM
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Not sure if it has been covered yet, but the engine cover needed to adorn the top of the N/A motor and hide all the fuel/harness naughty bits is:

A 112 010 01 67

I will be sending one down to Corky for mock-up purposes.

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Old 12-15-2011 | 12:48 PM
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Is Orange in the "test colors"
Looks like you will need a custom color. Orange would look good with that. Not sure if everyone else would want orange as the standard color
 
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Old 12-15-2011 | 04:15 PM
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There will be no need for additonal tuning. I would highly suggest having the stock tune before installing the kit. Tuning involves keeping the air fuel ratio correct and and keeping the MAF sensor in check. This has been factored into the kit price. I highly doubt the elbow from the MAF sensor to the throttle body will still be on the car after kit installation. I believe the charge pipe will be similar to a Needswings intake and eliminate the elbow.
So this is going to be an install and forget it type kit then??? So no need for a boost controller or wide band gauge/contoller??? So the psi will be set and no adjustments will need to be made to fine tune??? Good in the aspect that its one size fits all and tuning can be a pain in th a$$. Bad that it makes it limited. But I believe in Corky and know the product will deliver. And I'm sure the power and powerband will be great for our car. Only worry is Just from past experience, tuning for a turbo added car was different between a manual and a autostick auto... But not familiar with our car ecu, so not sure on that.
 
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Old 12-15-2011 | 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by LantanaTX
There will be no need for additonal tuning. I would highly suggest having the stock tune before installing the kit. Tuning involves keeping the air fuel ratio correct and and keeping the MAF sensor in check. This has been factored into the kit price. I highly doubt the elbow from the MAF sensor to the throttle body will still be on the car after kit installation. I believe the charge pipe will be similar to a Needswings intake and eliminate the elbow.
So this is going to be an install and forget it type kit then??? So no need for a boost controller or wide band gauge/contoller??? So the psi will be set and no adjustments will need to be made to fine tune??? Good in the aspect that its one size fits all and tuning can be a pain in th a$$. Bad that it makes it limited. But I believe in Corky and know the product will deliver. And I'm sure the power and powerband will be great for our car. Only worry is Just from past experience, tuning for a turbo added car was different between a manual and a autostick auto... But not familiar with our car ecu, so not sure on that.
 
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Old 12-15-2011 | 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by crosseduphwy101
So this is going to be an install and forget it type kit then??? So no need for a boost controller or wide band gauge/contoller??? So the psi will be set and no adjustments will need to be made to fine tune??? Good in the aspect that its one size fits all and tuning can be a pain in th a$$. Bad that it makes it limited. But I believe in Corky and know the product will deliver. And I'm sure the power and powerband will be great for our car. Only worry is Just from past experience, tuning for a turbo added car was different between a manual and a autostick auto... But not familiar with our car ecu, so not sure on that.
from what I understand, the boost model is being borrowed from the Kleeman supercharger that was used on both manuals and autosticks. It will be a set amount of boost and the extra fuel adjustments will be what is changed.

I do believe we are going to have boost gauges but I am not sure. Also there will be the possibility of a stage 2 turbo using an srt6 ecu. Rotrex I think is his screen name has recently had some success controlling boost levels with an srt6 ecu.
 



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