BEGi Crossfire Turbo Kit by Bell Experimental Group
Re: BEGi Crossfire Turbo Kit by Bell Experimental Group
Originally Posted by sk8erjosh09
Suprisingly yes.... Spec Clutch and Flywheel Part Search
(If I'm going to replace something, I always try and go for an upgrade)
Awesome...Thanks for this.
I'm thinking 'Stage 3', unfortunately, it's an un-educated thought...so suggestions are welcome.
Re: BEGi Crossfire Turbo Kit by Bell Experimental Group
Re: BEGi Crossfire Turbo Kit by Bell Experimental Group
Originally Posted by Guelph
Do you have any idea how long I've been searching for this??? I've 'babied' this clutch for over a year while searching! LOL
(If I'm going to replace something, I always try and go for an upgrade)
Awesome...Thanks for this.
I'm thinking 'Stage 3', unfortunately, it's an un-educated thought...so suggestions are welcome.
(If I'm going to replace something, I always try and go for an upgrade)
Awesome...Thanks for this.
I'm thinking 'Stage 3', unfortunately, it's an un-educated thought...so suggestions are welcome.
Re: BEGi Crossfire Turbo Kit by Bell Experimental Group
I think stage 2 would be more than ample for the turbo kids. If we're putting out more power than the stage 2 clutch can handle, the internals of the motor will likely be the next weakest point.
Something tells me stage 3 would be a grabby sumbeech.
For the stock folks, or people with basic intake/exhaust/tune, stage 1 would be best as drivability wouldn't suffer.
I still want hard numbers though.
Something tells me stage 3 would be a grabby sumbeech.
For the stock folks, or people with basic intake/exhaust/tune, stage 1 would be best as drivability wouldn't suffer.
I still want hard numbers though.
Re: BEGi Crossfire Turbo Kit by Bell Experimental Group
Originally Posted by JHM2K
I think stage 2 would be more than ample for the turbo kids. If we're putting out more power than the stage 2 clutch can handle, the internals of the motor will likely be the next weakest point.
Something tells me stage 3 would be a grabby sumbeech.
For the stock folks, or people with basic intake/exhaust/tune, stage 1 would be best as drivability wouldn't suffer.
I still want hard numbers though.
Something tells me stage 3 would be a grabby sumbeech.
For the stock folks, or people with basic intake/exhaust/tune, stage 1 would be best as drivability wouldn't suffer.
I still want hard numbers though.
I bet that stage 3 is a grabby "sumbeech" lol
Re: BEGi Crossfire Turbo Kit by Bell Experimental Group
A very timley post and Informative as well.
That's some good Looking out there Sk8erjosh09
Turbos and Race Clutches!
Whod a Thunk.
That's some good Looking out there Sk8erjosh09
Turbos and Race Clutches!
Whod a Thunk.
Re: BEGi Crossfire Turbo Kit by Bell Experimental Group
Originally Posted by 05roadsterguy
A very timley post and Informative as well.
That's some good Looking out there Sk8erjosh09
Turbos and Race Clutches!
Whod a Thunk.
That's some good Looking out there Sk8erjosh09
Turbos and Race Clutches!
Whod a Thunk.
Re: BEGi Crossfire Turbo Kit by Bell Experimental Group
From what I've learned on here.. beyond TURBO your looking at nickle and dime increases.. our stock NA motors probably won't go much further.
Re: BEGi Crossfire Turbo Kit by Bell Experimental Group
Originally Posted by frankeyser
it is textured and if you wanted to remove the MB markings you would want to take it all the way down smooth.
Re: BEGi Crossfire Turbo Kit by Bell Experimental Group
Originally Posted by JHM2K
I think stage 2 would be more than ample for the turbo kids. If we're putting out more power than the stage 2 clutch can handle, the internals of the motor will likely be the next weakest point.
Something tells me stage 3 would be a grabby sumbeech.
For the stock folks, or people with basic intake/exhaust/tune, stage 1 would be best as drivability wouldn't suffer.
I still want hard numbers though.
Something tells me stage 3 would be a grabby sumbeech.
For the stock folks, or people with basic intake/exhaust/tune, stage 1 would be best as drivability wouldn't suffer.
I still want hard numbers though.
Re: BEGi Crossfire Turbo Kit by Bell Experimental Group
Originally Posted by JHM2K
I think stage 2 would be more than ample for the turbo kids. If we're putting out more power than the stage 2 clutch can handle, the internals of the motor will likely be the next weakest point.
Something tells me stage 3 would be a grabby sumbeech.
For the stock folks, or people with basic intake/exhaust/tune, stage 1 would be best as drivability wouldn't suffer.
I still want hard numbers though.
Something tells me stage 3 would be a grabby sumbeech.
For the stock folks, or people with basic intake/exhaust/tune, stage 1 would be best as drivability wouldn't suffer.
I still want hard numbers though.
Considering I am currently wearing a "Bear" Bryant Houndstooth fedora I really had no choice when it comes to the "Roll Tide."
If anyone else also wants to give it a go their contact info is:
Spec Clutch
S.P.E.C., Inc.
2490 Five Star Parkway
Bessemer, Alabama 35022
Orders: 1-800-828-4379
Tech: 205-491-8581
Fax: 205-491-8593
In my messages I said around 10 of us would probably be looking to purchase, hoping it would get us an answer back.
I also asked if they could not give us exact numbers if the could give us a percentage range over OEM for stage 1-3.
I did get information from them earlier that Stage 1-2+ are all very streetable and that you can not really feel the difference between them. But of those three 2+ would of course have a higher torque capacity.
In my follow up message I went over our plans and pressed for hard numbers.
If anyone gets farther than I have please update!
Re: BEGi Crossfire Turbo Kit by Bell Experimental Group
Forgive me if its already been discussed, but what considerations for the dual mass flywheel have been accounted for?
I'm by no means an expert on the matter but arent dual mass flywheels specifically designed for an application with a specific torque/hp rating.
I would be cautious adding significant amounts of power without addressing this, especially when considering a grip happy clutch, from what I've read these are not cheap to replace.
Of course the above is moot if you can replace the DM and stock clutch for a custom aluminum wheel, and stronger clutch pack.
Any insight for the manuals?
I'm by no means an expert on the matter but arent dual mass flywheels specifically designed for an application with a specific torque/hp rating.
I would be cautious adding significant amounts of power without addressing this, especially when considering a grip happy clutch, from what I've read these are not cheap to replace.
Of course the above is moot if you can replace the DM and stock clutch for a custom aluminum wheel, and stronger clutch pack.
Any insight for the manuals?
Re: BEGi Crossfire Turbo Kit by Bell Experimental Group
Originally Posted by Guelph
Hey Guys; I've been following the whole LantanaTX / Corky thread ...
Please put me down on the list as well!
My girl's going to need a clutch soon... (I can hear the throw-out bearing)
I was wondering if anyone's found a beefier clutch to replace the stock setup yet. Is there ANYTHING else out there?
Steve F.
2005 Limited
Bone Stock
6 -spd
Please put me down on the list as well!
My girl's going to need a clutch soon... (I can hear the throw-out bearing)
I was wondering if anyone's found a beefier clutch to replace the stock setup yet. Is there ANYTHING else out there?
Steve F.
2005 Limited
Bone Stock
6 -spd
Re: BEGi Crossfire Turbo Kit by Bell Experimental Group
SPEC Clutch info update:
Francis,
Thank you for your inquiry.* The stage 1 holds 275 ft lbs tq, and the stage 2 holds 315 ft lbs.* Additionally, the st2+ holds 353 and st3+ 433.** The most popular stages for the Crossfire in order are st2, 2+ and 3+.* Regards,
SPECTech**
Looks like 2+ for me.
Francis,
Thank you for your inquiry.* The stage 1 holds 275 ft lbs tq, and the stage 2 holds 315 ft lbs.* Additionally, the st2+ holds 353 and st3+ 433.** The most popular stages for the Crossfire in order are st2, 2+ and 3+.* Regards,
SPECTech**
Looks like 2+ for me.
Re: BEGi Crossfire Turbo Kit by Bell Experimental Group
Full list of clutch torque capacities
Hello, I hope all is well. Sorry for the delay in my response. Please see
the stage clutch and the torque capacity
below:
SE711=265
SE712=300
SE713h=340
SE713=365
SE713+=425
SE714=365
SE715=515
**Number in foot pounds of TQ
Hello, I hope all is well. Sorry for the delay in my response. Please see
the stage clutch and the torque capacity
below:
SE711=265
SE712=300
SE713h=340
SE713=365
SE713+=425
SE714=365
SE715=515
**Number in foot pounds of TQ
Re: BEGi Crossfire Turbo Kit by Bell Experimental Group
Originally Posted by frankeyser
Full list of clutch torque capacities
Hello, I hope all is well. Sorry for the delay in my response. Please see
the stage clutch and the torque capacity
below:
SE711=265
SE712=300
SE713h=340
SE713=365
SE713+=425
SE714=365
SE715=515
**Number in foot pounds of TQ
Hello, I hope all is well. Sorry for the delay in my response. Please see
the stage clutch and the torque capacity
below:
SE711=265
SE712=300
SE713h=340
SE713=365
SE713+=425
SE714=365
SE715=515
**Number in foot pounds of TQ
Re: BEGi Crossfire Turbo Kit by Bell Experimental Group
Originally Posted by frankeyser
this list was from a seller not SPEC themselves. I think that is why the numbers are a little lower.
Re: BEGi Crossfire Turbo Kit by Bell Experimental Group
Originally Posted by sk8erjosh09
So with the new numbers were looking at with the turbo, we need at least 2+? Im starting to think I may just go for the grabby 3 and adapt.
I have not been on a 1/4 mile in 8 years and only occasionally hit road courses. I just love zipping through the curvy sierra roads and occasionally racing the other tenants of my office building for laughs (with their turbo charged porches and Vettes I am always left behind, man I should have bought an srt6 haha.) If I was going to be on the track all the time I would defiantly look into the 3 though.
But who knows maybe I should wait to get all the parts installed, hit a dyno and then decide what clutch to snag but I really do not think I am going to hit over 330hp.
Re: BEGi Crossfire Turbo Kit by Bell Experimental Group
Originally Posted by frankeyser
I really think for me the 2+ is going to be more than enough for the turbo, my current mods and the SD headers when they are ready.
I have not been on a 1/4 mile in 8 years and only occasionally hit road courses. I just love zipping through the curvy sierra roads and occasionally racing the other tenants of my office building for laughs (with their turbo charged porches and Vettes I am always left behind, man I should have bought an srt6 haha.) If I was going to be on the track all the time I would defiantly look into the 3 though.
But who knows maybe I should wait to get all the parts installed, hit a dyno and then decide what clutch to snag but I really do not think I am going to hit over 330hp.
I have not been on a 1/4 mile in 8 years and only occasionally hit road courses. I just love zipping through the curvy sierra roads and occasionally racing the other tenants of my office building for laughs (with their turbo charged porches and Vettes I am always left behind, man I should have bought an srt6 haha.) If I was going to be on the track all the time I would defiantly look into the 3 though.
But who knows maybe I should wait to get all the parts installed, hit a dyno and then decide what clutch to snag but I really do not think I am going to hit over 330hp.
Re: BEGi Crossfire Turbo Kit by Bell Experimental Group
Originally Posted by sk8erjosh09
I know I will track it, rarely, but I just want to make sure everything is as reliable if not more than stock. Getting parts rated for more than needed is usually a good way to go about that.
Just my $0.02