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Old 03-14-2012 | 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by frankeyser
If I was doing a V8 drop in I would be looking at a supercharged V8 drop in.
You do realize there is a MASSIVE swing in price between the SCed V8 and the NA V8, right? Just saying...

And for a LOT less money, you could go the route Bob (Lantana) is going and do an NA V8 for dirt cheap and rear mount a turbo kit on it for less than the money of the SCed V8.
 
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Old 03-14-2012 | 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by mdaniels4
LOL! Oh heck, while we're at it let's just go and sneak a V12 in there. Just teasing you Frank. Fact is there comes a limit for me anyway, of the mods that give me the best ration of cost for benefit. the 8 would be about it for me, since I don't track. But dropping in a SC 8 would then mean all sorts of other changes, such as driveline, and probably support and components that would have me climbing the fence. For the inability then to really use this, albeit fun, would be a tearful waste. I think my back corner badge would read "NA8". but at this point, I can't see tearing a perfectly good engine out of her just for my own ego. Now if I could get one of the Neon owners to buy the 3.2 well, then , a trip to Milwaukee may definately be worthwhile.
HAHA no worries! When I started looking at the time and money for a v8 drop in I started leaning towards the "Heck, why not a super charged v8." It seems when I start a big project I always ended up taking it a step further than I thought I would haha.
 
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Old 03-14-2012 | 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by BoilerUpXFire
You do realize there is a MASSIVE swing in price between the SCed V8 and the NA V8, right? Just saying...

And for a LOT less money, you could go the route Bob (Lantana) is going and do an NA V8 for dirt cheap and rear mount a turbo kit on it for less than the money of the SCed V8.
HAHA I realize the price, but that is the route I would go if I was doing a V8 swap. But I am not and do not have any plans to. I mean there are so many routes to everything. If you wanted to be super cheap you would drop in a v8 crate stroker engine with a turbo 400. But I am sure most of us are speculating on what we would do, if we were to ever do it.

Right now I would just be happy with the BEGi turbo in this car.
 
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Old 03-15-2012 | 03:22 PM
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The V8 is definitely the most unique and impressive option. Seeing as how I'm still on the fence with all of this, I just plan to keep doing research. I really want this kit or something similar if I leave my N/A as is. The only downside is that you still don't get the hp you get with a stock SRT. With that said, I do believe I will being attempting a swap in the end and I might as well drop in the V8 vs the SRT V6. Go big or go home.
 
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Old 03-15-2012 | 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by dowell13
Go big or go home.
Or "to each their own".. I can get just as many tickets in my NA as the best of them running a V-8!
And no bloody knuckles to go with it!

I just consider that to be the "reality" of how much do you need under the hood.
 
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Old 03-15-2012 | 03:40 PM
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I am not saying that the N/A is not enough. I agree with "to each their own". I'm just saying if you are going to do a swap, then why not put in the V8? Not trying to step on any toes. I don't mind a few bloody knuckles here and there. I do believe they are inevitable when working with cars. A little blood adds character...ha.
 
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Old 03-15-2012 | 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by dowell13
I am not saying that the N/A is not enough. I agree with "to each their own". I'm just saying if you are going to do a swap, then why not put in the V8? Not trying to step on any toes. I don't mind a few bloody knuckles here and there. I do believe they are inevitable when working with cars. A little blood adds character...ha.
Donated my blood in my younger days.. LOL. Turbo 350 I rebuilt with a shift kit, 1966 model 327 3/4 race cam..intake..carb..headers.. engine swaps.. now is just time for a little more juice and enjoy the ride. I'll just check out the pictures when they come out with the blower sticking through the hood..
 
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Old 03-15-2012 | 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Mrmiata
Donated my blood in my younger days.. LOL. Turbo 350 I rebuilt with a shift kit, 1966 model 327 3/4 race cam..intake..carb..headers.. engine swaps.. now is just time for a little more juice and enjoy the ride. I'll just check out the pictures when they come out with the blower sticking through the hood..
I've busted my knuckles many times on my '67 Chevy C10. A blower on the Xfire would look a little ridiculous, but it would be a sight to see. I'm sure someone will try it one day. I believe anything is possible with these cars, as long as people have the patience.
 
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Old 03-15-2012 | 04:43 PM
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AGREED!!! Different strokes for different folks... And some are bored and stroked
 
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Old 03-16-2012 | 12:20 PM
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Quick question. I know someone will tell me to use the search box (believe me, I have), but I'm wondering what are some of the best sites to find stuff for the Xfire? Other than NeedsWings. I have searched through the forum, but most of the posts are a few years old. Thanks in advance.

Still anxious to hear about this kit!
 
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Old 03-16-2012 | 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by dowell13
I'm wondering what are some of the best sites to find stuff for the Xfire?
Define 'stuff'
 
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Old 03-16-2012 | 12:35 PM
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Anything really. Mostly mechanical/electrical upgrades. Not really worried about cosmetics. I can do most of that stuff myself.
 
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Old 03-16-2012 | 01:00 PM
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You already found all there is to find basically for xfire specifics. There really isn't much aftermarket support. Most upgrades are taken from other MB models as far as under the hood stuff goes. There are a few board members that make bits and pieces or supply used items. If you are looking for something specific checking old posts or asking if anyone has done X or upgraded X should get you some results. As far as online storefronts though, not much out there.
 
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Old 03-16-2012 | 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Airscape
You already found all there is to find basically for xfire specifics. There really isn't much aftermarket support. Most upgrades are taken from other MB models as far as under the hood stuff goes. There are a few board members that make bits and pieces or supply used items. If you are looking for something specific checking old posts or asking if anyone has done X or upgraded X should get you some results. As far as online storefronts though, not much out there.
Thanks. I just keep finding "Universal" crap. I figured there wasn't much out there, but just wanted to check with the Seniors of the Xfire world.
 
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Old 03-16-2012 | 01:49 PM
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www.needswings.com = Engine, suspension, exhaust, some brakes, other misc items

www.ctd-germany.com = Exterior dress-up, if still in production.

www.vmaxx.de = More overpriced (and likely obsolete) dress-up goodies

www.pogiparts.de = Interior brightwork

www.chrometec.de = Random overpriced rubbish

www.ebay.com = occasionally you'll find some random NOS goodies on there, avoid everything else.

That's about it. Lots of research is the key, as each specific mod has had numerous iterations and revisions, some more effective than others but ultimately it's a taste issue.
 
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Old 03-16-2012 | 01:53 PM
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I still have about two years until I can actually do some work on my car, so hopefully there will be some new toys out there by then. Plenty of time to do research too. I'll continue to read on. Thanks again.
 
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Old 03-16-2012 | 05:14 PM
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Can't wait for this to come out. The wife and I were torn between the SRT and the Limited. Went with the limited for appearance and ride. Plus the only local SRT was not well cared for. A nice turbo set up could open things up a bit to her having more fun.

Has anyone tried a DIY set up with a standalone ECU like megasquirt? Swap to a thicker head gasket to drop compression a tad, then add Meth injection and you should be able to keep up with the SRTs...

Or are there plans with this kit to go beyond 6psi for those that want to add Meth and pull more timing?

I have a couple 928s and am very used to the lack of aftermarket support, having to constantly Mcguiver work arounds. I finally gave up, shoved a 434 SBC in and called it a day.

-Coolaide's other half.
 
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Old 03-22-2012 | 12:00 AM
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Any Updates????
 
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Old 03-22-2012 | 12:29 AM
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Any Updates????
NO !!!!!!!!
 
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Old 03-22-2012 | 06:16 AM
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NO !!!!!!!!
No need to be rude.
 



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