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Old 11-23-2011 | 08:56 AM
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My thoughts and prayers to John and his missus. Glad you folks got out okay. Thanksgiving just acquired new meaning for a couple in the volunteer state.
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Old 11-23-2011 | 09:02 AM
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Hello! McFly!
Yea, I remembered you said something to that effect. Just wasn't sure if you were up to the longer time without the car. BUT, I just saw you post that you bought a 2008? Was it that beautiful Brilliant Silver one? how many do you have? Are you taking the future turbo Crossfire to San Diego? If so, drive really careful!! in fact we all need to think about that. This year has seen so many totaled Crossfires. You and Mr Miata can be our plan B first and second prototype cars. For now John is still number one until he tells us differently and hoepfully he will be in another car soon.
 

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Old 11-23-2011 | 09:50 AM
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Nope didn't buy it. Was just jerkin' John's chain.

As mentioned I can do without my 04, totally stock, 6spd, NA XF coupe for a couple of months.
Let me know if we need it for this project.

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Old 11-23-2011 | 10:32 AM
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DJ thanks for stepping up, glad we will have a 6 speed car there for sure...

I am worried that John got bumped on his head during his accident because he is talking about an automatic now
 
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Old 11-23-2011 | 10:37 AM
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DJ thanks for stepping up, glad we will have a 6 speed car there for sure...

I am worried that John got bumped on his head during his accident because he is talking about an automatic now
I would miss having that connection you get with the car if I had an automatic.
 
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Old 11-23-2011 | 10:45 AM
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A paddle shifted car is still pretty cool. I think John's only complaint with the six speed is the granny low first gear. I have installed the Blue Top solonoids and the shfts are quick and firm.

If possible we should try to make the second prototype car a roadster if possible becuase of the additional bracing that could come into play with productions kits.
 
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Old 11-23-2011 | 10:48 AM
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If the mounting holes are already there I could take the bracing off of my roadster and mount them on the coupe. (are they?)
 
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Old 11-23-2011 | 10:52 AM
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A paddle shifted car is still pretty cool. I think John's only complaint with the six speed is the granny low first gear. I have installed the Blue Top solonoids and the shfts are quick and firm.

If possible we should try to make the second prototype car a roadster if possible becuase of the additional bracing that could come into play with productions kits.
Yeah sometimes its annoying.. I usually start in second except on hills or heavy traffic. The pros to it are in stop and go traffic its nice to just cruise at 3mph... and I live on a dirt road so I like being able to go nice and slow lol... Although I have always wanted a car with paddle shifters.
 
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Old 11-23-2011 | 10:55 AM
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If the mounting holes are already there I could take the bracing off of my roadster and mount them on the coupe. (are they?)
Great idea! I will take a look. Corky doesn't know about the brace and I don't want him suprised when his kit gets returned because it won't quite fit on a roaster. It would help to give him the brace for the first car so he doesn't potentialy have to rework on the second car. Worse comes to worse, even if the mounting holes are missing they could hold it in place and make sure everything fits.
 
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Old 11-23-2011 | 11:28 AM
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Hello! McFly!
When I moved from Tampa, FL to Reno, NV I rented a car transporter from Ryder for almost nothing. I drove my Monte Carlo up on it (did not even want the car I only bought it for the Turbo-Jet 400 so I could drop it into a 66 El Camino.)

I do not remember the cost but I know it had to be pretty low because I was in college and could barley afford pizza rolls and beer to survive on.
 
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Old 11-23-2011 | 01:05 PM
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I would miss having that connection you get with the car if I had an automatic.
I agree, but I have not driven the paddle shifter on an SRT yet.

I think first gear is quite small, but it still gets you to 30 in a hurry, and I like that. Most of the SRT guys want OUR gearing for 1/4 mile stuff, so with a turbo, SC, or V8 the manual should be an absolute blast, although as John mentioned, we are unaware of its limits.

I intend to test them and if another trans is necessary so be it...
 
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Old 11-23-2011 | 01:28 PM
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Wow! Glad I still visit these forums every so often the NA m112 gets LOTS of love in here!
 
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Old 11-23-2011 | 03:28 PM
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Thank you all for the sentiments.

DJ, if you could be the new guinea, that would be great. I don't see the dust settling on this issue for at least a month... No sense delaying such an awesome project

And the coin is still being flipped (multiple times) regarding the transmission. As much as I love rowing the gears, I know the paddle-shift mod and the multiple TCU mods make the auto shift much faster (and smoother) than I can. In the end, it's all about speed and the ability to put power down smoothly.

A minor issue, but an issue, is the fact that Kim is terrified of the manual (doesn't want to break anything). In the rare event that her car would be down for repair, it would be nice knowing that I wouldn't be responsible for ALL driving duties. The auto is tame enough for her, and, with a few tweaks, should be fast enough for me. I'll miss the third pedal, but I'll welcome the leisure of being able to cruise much more smoothly in traffic.

As I said in the other thread, if the perfect car came along with a manual, we'll just have to give Kim more lessons.

One concern I have with the manual is not the gearbox itself, but all supporting hardware. Will the clutch be able to handle 340+ flywheel horsepower? We have no aftermarket option. Replacing with stock parts is an expensive temporary fix to a problem that will resurface.

I also noticed some wear & tear in the synchros... the 5th gear synchro in my car was going out, and any entry into 5th under hard acceleration was nasty. It's a moot point now, but I'm sure the repair bill would have been nasty. Gears 1-3 have multiple synchros... 4th gear has two, and the final two gears have one each.

The auto-box is tried and true to handle even the fastest SRT's on the spray... So I know it will be good for the Limiteds w/ turbo.
 
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Old 11-23-2011 | 03:58 PM
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Many may already know this but our 5 speed auto is basically the same one in the E55 AMG as well as the LX platform. (SRT-8 too) They found the limit of the stock trans to be a little over 500 RWHP on their 4200 lb cars. We don't have to worry about breaking it with our power or torque.

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Old 11-23-2011 | 04:26 PM
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My car could be there for that time period but thats a hell of a drive for me(Southwestern PA). Plus getting home would be an issue. I really don't want to see this project stall now.
 
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Old 11-23-2011 | 07:39 PM
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I really don't want to see this project stall now.
My sentiments exactly.. being at the bottom of the list was to give me time for some slush funds.. and 36 hours of windshield time..down..back home..down..tubo shot home..lol.. wasn't exactly in my plans. But this is an awsome deal going and if no one local jumps onboard then I'll make it happen to keep this going "per schedule". Bought the Miata off the showroom floor Nov. 1990, and when they came out with the turbo kit..always wanted it but couldn't make it happen. This time it's do what is needed and have no regrets. "Stall is not an option"..
 
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Old 11-24-2011 | 09:30 AM
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My sentiments exactly.. being at the bottom of the list was to give me time for some slush funds.. and 36 hours of windshield time..down..back home..down..tubo shot home..lol.. wasn't exactly in my plans. But this is an awsome deal going and if no one local jumps onboard then I'll make it happen to keep this going "per schedule". Bought the Miata off the showroom floor Nov. 1990, and when they came out with the turbo kit..always wanted it but couldn't make it happen. This time it's do what is needed and have no regrets. "Stall is not an option"..
I think we should shoot for DJ to take the number one proto slot since he has a whole stable of Crossfires and won't even realize one is missing . And mrmiata in OK should be #2 prototype. Anyone agree or disagree? If this is OK with everone, DJ, please give Corky a call at the number above tomorrow. I doubt they are working today. I believe the reason for two prototypes, is to test install the finished kit, document the install and write an installation manual. Happy Thanksgiving everyone.
 

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Old 11-24-2011 | 10:20 AM
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I hope I understand this correctly but this will be a DIY kit for everyone to install themselves, right? When the warranty expires on my girl, I want to get this kit. It will be a blast to give her this kick in the pants.
 
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Old 11-24-2011 | 10:24 AM
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I hope I understand this correctly but this will be a DIY kit for everyone to install themselves, right? When the warranty expires on my girl, I want to get this kit. It will be a blast to give her this kick in the pants.
Yes, It will be a DIY kit that will be engineered to be as easy as possible to install. You know that adding this turbo does not void a warrenty. With a warrenty they have to prove that your modification caused the failure.
 
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Old 11-24-2011 | 10:36 AM
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I hope I understand this correctly but this will be a DIY kit for everyone to install themselves, right? When the warranty expires on my girl, I want to get this kit. It will be a blast to give her this kick in the pants.
Also, since your SIG says you have a lifetime warranty, I would assume you will install the update in your second coming ?
 



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