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Old 03-02-2012 | 10:56 PM
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I've heard of guys like you.. LOL.. I've got a Harley to fill my free time..
Oh man, my dad had a 57 panhead that he must have dumped 10k into so that it looked just like the one denis hoper road, sold it saying i need one that is just finished and i will stop pumping money into. Now he has two newer ones and still can not leave them alone haha, so at least I know where I got it from! I can only hope that my wife can stick with me like my mom did with him.

My wife did say, "why do you need a turbo?" and i said "because i just can't leave things alone." she said, "I just wanted to make sure you knew that was why." so i think she may have accepted it about me. Though she did tell me no to the nova i was looking at....
 
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Old 03-04-2012 | 05:52 PM
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I really hope that kit includes new pistons.took one of those 3.2 apart and the pistons cracked in half with a blow from a little hammer.why dont turbo guys just swap a STI motor in.same price better motor,and it was built for boost from inception.just saying if i could fit a chevy 350 v8 in mine dont see the difficulty in throwing a 2.5 STI motor in.youll be able to hit 700whp or more .the mods are limitless.just saying.
 
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Old 03-04-2012 | 07:12 PM
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I really hope that kit includes new pistons.took one of those 3.2 apart and the pistons cracked in half with a blow from a little hammer.why dont turbo guys just swap a STI motor in.same price better motor,and it was built for boost from inception.just saying if i could fit a chevy 350 v8 in mine dont see the difficulty in throwing a 2.5 STI motor in.youll be able to hit 700whp or more .the mods are limitless.just saying.
Why are you hitting a piston with a hammer?
 
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Old 03-04-2012 | 09:47 PM
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Why are you hitting a piston with a hammer?
Glad im not the only one thinking this.....
 
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Old 03-04-2012 | 09:58 PM
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STi motor Flat 6?? Im sure this could be done , Mad frankenstein.. But everything Crossfire will be lost. This xfire v6 motor will have NO Problems with this turbo kit installed, again Klemann has been boosting the 3.2 for Years with no issues......
I bet if you whack a sti piston or LS piston with a hammer it will shatter prob should just stick to hammer and nail combination
 
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Old 03-04-2012 | 10:09 PM
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I've actually heard they have new methods out.. it's called "non-destructive" testing.. might be worth looking into!
 
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Old 03-05-2012 | 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by MoparFreak69
Glad im not the only one thinking this.....
I was also thinking the same thing?!?
 
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Old 03-05-2012 | 02:56 PM
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Some people just don't understand the purpose of this kit. Nobody is trying to or going to make a 700hp monster out of the 3.2 NA. Everybody knows at this point if you want big power it's get an SRT and mod it or do an engine swap. This isn't meant to compete with those options. This is an easy mod to improve what we already have to a level we have been unable to acheive at this price point thus far while maintaining daily driver reliability and turn key operation. I have the utmost respect for those that have and are doing all kinds of crazy swaps. I dont have an engine lift, the tools, the garage space or the know how it would take to do a swap over a weekend and get it to turn over with the key Monday morning when it's time to head to work. I am fairly confident that I will be able to do so with this kit however. When you factor the time and everything else together this is the best option the NA crowd has got to peek out from behind the SRT shadow and not have to be afraid of family sedans putting us to shame.
 
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Old 03-05-2012 | 03:21 PM
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Some people just don't understand the purpose of this kit. Nobody is trying to or going to make a 700hp monster out of the 3.2 NA. Everybody knows at this point if you want big power it's get an SRT and mod it or do an engine swap. This isn't meant to compete with those options. This is an easy mod to improve what we already have to a level we have been unable to acheive at this price point thus far while maintaining daily driver reliability and turn key operation. I have the utmost respect for those that have and are doing all kinds of crazy swaps. I dont have an engine lift, the tools, the garage space or the know how it would take to do a swap over a weekend and get it to turn over with the key Monday morning when it's time to head to work. I am fairly confident that I will be able to do so with this kit however. When you factor the time and everything else together this is the best option the NA crowd has got to peek out from behind the SRT shadow and not have to be afraid of family sedans putting us to shame.
Well-said...
 
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Old 03-05-2012 | 03:37 PM
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100% agreed. I'm not "dis-satisfied" with my NA's performance. Coming from a Miata and 94 Silverado with a 6 banger, I found the Crossfire very impressive under the throttle. Now I can go one giant step forward without having to frankenstien part after upgrade part to achieve what.. half of what I get in one package?
I really don't need my tires breaking loose and getting sideways at 40 mph because I kicked it into a downshift (automatic). I'm guessing this wont be the case with the added horsepower.. LOL
 
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Old 03-05-2012 | 03:56 PM
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And the best part, when your done and ready to sell, you can unbolt the kit, bolt the OEM back on and sell the turbo kit!
 
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Old 03-05-2012 | 04:11 PM
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That's why there are so many different cars, and a some gearheads only think v-8 or chevy vs. ford, or honda vs etc... I have owned lots of cars, and driven tons. I would not want to drive my brothers 11sec evo everyday! My rx8 was great at the track and embarrassed more expensive machines... But I would never drag raced it, would have got my a$$ kicked. We bought our crossfires for the looks, or how they drove , or etc.This is just a great option to make our car even more fun to drive. Thinkin outside the box and not just doing what a magazine says or the guy next store. I'm just glad the turbo is getting built
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Old 03-05-2012 | 09:34 PM
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STi motor Flat 6?? Im sure this could be done , Mad frankenstein.. But everything Crossfire will be lost. This xfire v6 motor will have NO Problems with this turbo kit installed, again Klemann has been boosting the 3.2 for Years with no issues......
I bet if you whack a sti piston or LS piston with a hammer it will shatter prob should just stick to hammer and nail combination
Flat 6? They were not talking about a legacy. The STI has a boxer, turbo 4.
 
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Old 03-05-2012 | 11:15 PM
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Flat 6? They were not talking about a legacy. The STI has a boxer, turbo 4.
OOps my bad, Flat4
 
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Old 03-06-2012 | 06:16 AM
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I have a couple of questions regarding the car..

I'm from Australia.. Will these kits be available to us? How would we go about altering the ECU as we physically can't get the car to the states? remotely?

Also

Will be manual transmission support the increase in HP? How many of the crossfires being tc'd are actually manual?

Also!

Has anyone put any thought to the viability of E85 fuel in a turbocharged crossfire?

I have a friend who recently converted his Mitsubishi Evo 8 to e85.. gets better milage and saw 2 pound increase in boost (think he's running 23-24 pound)

Now for the best part.. he saw a 60kwatw gain.. and I was there to witness it lol.. All for a total of $1100 AUD.. From what I hear this is the usual in most Jap spec turbo cars.. would we be able to mimic this in the crossfire?

Just curious what you guys think of this..
 
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Old 03-06-2012 | 12:42 PM
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I have a couple of questions regarding the car..

I'm from Australia.. Will these kits be available to us? How would we go about altering the ECU as we physically can't get the car to the states? remotely?

Also

Will be manual transmission support the increase in HP? How many of the crossfires being tc'd are actually manual?

Also!

Has anyone put any thought to the viability of E85 fuel in a turbocharged crossfire?

I have a friend who recently converted his Mitsubishi Evo 8 to e85.. gets better milage and saw 2 pound increase in boost (think he's running 23-24 pound)

Now for the best part.. he saw a 60kwatw gain.. and I was there to witness it lol.. All for a total of $1100 AUD.. From what I hear this is the usual in most Jap spec turbo cars.. would we be able to mimic this in the crossfire?

Just curious what you guys think of this..
Hey mate!

Here is what I can tell you.

Should be available to you (you will want to contact BEGi directly with the contact info on the first page of this thread.) Shipping may be costly though.

Remote tune it is.

Tranny should hold up. Kleeman has been boosting the 3.2 for years with no problems but we wont know until one of use puts a lot of miles on the kit but even then no two pieces of machinery are the same. The car being prototyped right now is a 6 speed. I think mr miata is an automatic and will be the second prototype. I think most of us looking at the turbo are 6 speed.

That is all I can help with.
 
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Old 03-06-2012 | 01:25 PM
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Hey mate!

Here is what I can tell you.

Should be available to you (you will want to contact BEGi directly with the contact info on the first page of this thread.) Shipping may be costly though.

Remote tune it is.

Tranny should hold up. Kleeman has been boosting the 3.2 for years with no problems but we wont know until one of use puts a lot of miles on the kit but even then no two pieces of machinery are the same. The car being prototyped right now is a 6 speed. I think mr miata is an automatic and will be the second prototype. I think most of us looking at the turbo are 6 speed.

That is all I can help with.
You are correct. She's an automatic. With no updates from last week I guess than ran into more issues?
 
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Old 03-06-2012 | 01:32 PM
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E85 was great when it first came out, it was cheaper than regular... Unfortunately it has gone up since and for most of us there is not a gas station close by that has it. My brother has it because he lives in the city and with the proper tune he added a lot more ponies! But not an option where I live.. If somebody wants a subi motor...bye the new scion
 
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Old 03-09-2012 | 06:16 AM
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Hi. I just came across this thread and am also interested. Is this something that if it worked out and people like the numbers etc. That will continue to be available for purchase or is there a limited number that you must be on a list for. I really would need to see a working system before sending that kind of cash.
 
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Old 03-09-2012 | 08:38 AM
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Hi. I just came across this thread and am also interested. Is this something that if it worked out and people like the numbers etc. That will continue to be available for purchase or is there a limited number that you must be on a list for. I really would need to see a working system before sending that kind of cash.
The kit is not a "group only" buy. Just like the Miata, I'm sure it will be available on the website. The price.. well that's up to BEGi after they are done with us. "We" are locked in, and if the final product doesn't allow for as much profit as required for "mass sales".. well you get the picture.
 



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