I dont know much about tuning but what Eurocharged does is completely different than what Corky needs done I believe. He needs to map parameters and get the ECU to recognize boost. Im sure thats not even a fraction of what has to actually happen, but its different than the parameters Eurocharged puts in place to maximize minimal modding. Like I said I dont know really anything about it but Im sure there are reasons he has to look so hard. Were not adding 10, 20, even 50 hp. Were talking 100 crank. He should still get in contact with them and see if a solution can be found though... combined expertise may prove a solid solution.

 

Wow .. I thought the Superbowl was last weekend...

 

Maybe I should rephrase what Im trying to say. With a intake mod, the ECU should be tweaked to increase the ideal amount of fuel for the added air at the right rate. With a turbo, you have different intensities of air depending on if its under boost or not under boost. Not under boost it should be equivelant to stock, but under boost the fuel needs to be increased to match the same rate of the air thats being forced in. The problem is getting a non boosted car to do both. But like I said, Im not someone with experience in this. I was wondering the same thing originally, but got to thinking that there is probably a good reason as to why he hasnt contacted them. As far as tuning afterwards... I would assume that it would be something Eurocharged can do, as the car is already set up at the correct standards before the mod. They would just have a minimal amount of tweaking.

 

If someone called us up and wanted to know our approach to building a 120 mph wind resistant generator enclosure.. I REALLY DOUBT the owner is going to ask for a fax number to send prints over. That kinda clarify a few "wonder whys?"

 

In my experience with the rx8 community (turbo added car) and my brothers evo, both have different approaches... But in the add a turbo to a na car, as long as you are able to read an ecu and now how to tune accordingly, somebody that already has access to both should be able to come up with something. Just need a tuner ready to take on the challenge and get involved. S#@T we had a forum member doing our tunes via laptop and plug in ecu adapter similiar to eurocharges setup and had no problems. He was the tuning guru, no shop. etc....
Hopefully somebody wants to help Corky get this project rolling...
Can't wait!!!!

 

If that's all it takes then hopefully someone with knowledge and experience with it will make an appearance soon to get this show on the road lol.

 

That"S right last mod. That what i said when i got my srt6, no way i would every want more power! then this! And many others have been down this Road. The need for speed is a wonderful vice, Just have fun and grin.

 

Kinda an age old story.. Eurocharge learned and dealt with what was developed for our electronics and modified.. Needswings.. dealt with what room was under the hood and doable for more HP..
'Turbo +' tuning mod will do the same thing in time. Profits are a great motivator. If you owned Eurocharge or any other tuning company would you openly disclose ideas and methods without a slice of the pie? There may be a new bull in the arena.. but this ain't his first rodeo.

 

I agree and hope a company steps up to get there slice and do it right!!!

 

the main thing your not understanding is the ecu in the xfire is encrypted in german to start. add the fact the vitrually every file is connected to maybe 20 to 40 other files and you begin to see the maze. just like lantana said way back when... it took less than 2 days to install the engine and hardware and over 3 months to get the car to start. this isnt your buddys honda your dealing with.

 

Thank you for commenting on the complexity of what they are dealing with. Johnny tuner with his laptop and his modified drbII scanner cable doesn't even get to first base. Tighed1 might not be crazy about it, but if it takes them 2 months to get just the tuning figured out I'm good with it.

 

I was not trying to say anybody could do it!!! I was saying I hope somebody that is already around the forum or has a biz dealing with our car and tunes could get envolved in this project. I just want it to happen!!! N/A cars are the hardest to tune, I know that, and ours is no different if not more complex.
But I have seen Corky's attention to detail on Some Miatas I would meet at the track and have all the confidence in the world he will find the right ECU to make this happen. Good luck too all, can't wait!

 

[QUOTE=Mrmiata]but if it takes them 2 months to get just the tuning figured out I'm good with it.[/QUOTE/]

Me too.. I would rather have it function properly and take longer, than get it now with bugs still to sort.

 

Dang double posts...

 

Tighed1 Have you heard anything about your car? I need information, rumors , anything. Who is going to tune it? Size of Turbo? Gossip? MRMIATA How about you? Heard anything about your car..when it will be going in? Rumors, gossip? It's killing me, I'm excited, like a kid before Christmas

 

There was a thread the other day about getting a baseline dyno run.. short of that not a peep. Guess I'll run over to the website and see if anythings showing up.

 

UPDATE

First attempt at a dyno run was a bust. It would not go over 4500 rpm due to traction control. Tim and Terry (with the help of Bob) found a way around it and it goes back Monday for dyno stuff. I have done data logging on the ECU. Surprisingly this engine runs very little timing advance. It still has decent power and get up and go. But no timing advance. It’s not a problem, just not something I was expecting. Otherwise all engine parameters seem fairly normal. We have the ECU reflash squared away too. Getting ready to test that next week, I think. Also, this car does not like shifting into 2nd gear. IS there a trick to it, or does it need a tranny fluid flush?

So. Is there a problem with our cars shifting into 2nd? I don't recall any but I didn't have a chance to get too familiar with it before it left for Texas.

 

Shifting into second is always a little touchy in my car as it is just not too smooth until you get use to the 6 speed. It is why my wife never drives the car even though it was originally bought for her. She feels it is too jerky but after driving it all these years I can smoothly shift into 2nd around 2500 to 3000 rpms. Then again even I skip straight to third when just putting around town.

 

a couple of threads about the 6 speed they may want to look over real quick
https://www.crossfireforum.org/forum...-good-not.html
https://www.crossfireforum.org/forum...two-shift.html

 

Reading those posts would make you want to sell the car at once. LOL
I had a manual and it was fine, a bit notchy 1 to 2 and reverse but you get used to it and it becomes no problem. They do appear to get better with use so that's good. The clutch is fine and not a long throw as some stated, there is no need to go to floor on it and it is quite capable of delicate use, not in or out like some.
I had the car from new, an '04 and it had no problem jumping out of gear and that was solved with an adjustment when it happened anyway, see the TSB on it.