BEGi Crossfire Turbo Kit by Bell Experimental Group
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Re: BEGi Crossfire Turbo Kit by Bell Experimental Group
Originally Posted by BoilerUpXFire
Many here have been around long enough to be burned on one or more deals from the forum will be a little more cautious than some newer members. I have ALL the confidence in the world in Corky and his team, but with the NA 5.0 Liter V8 conversion and rotrex SC unit also out there, I will sit on this three way fence until I see some numbers, and more importantly, some reliability info from each of the possible power making solutions.
At this point in time, the NA 5.0 V8 has the best power numbers (none provided yet for anything else) and reliability is off the charts. And come on, how sexy would a german V8 sound coming from the XF??
Glad to see options (finally) but still on the fence. Thanks for taking the plunge for the rest of us
At this point in time, the NA 5.0 V8 has the best power numbers (none provided yet for anything else) and reliability is off the charts. And come on, how sexy would a german V8 sound coming from the XF??
Glad to see options (finally) but still on the fence. Thanks for taking the plunge for the rest of us
Which would you say is most feasable in cost and "down" time for the upgrade?
40 to 50% increase is the guestimated range in HP for the BEGi turbo so using that as a basis..?
And I realize it's different strokes for different folks,
Some want drag racers, and some just want to make a Mustang, Camaro, or Corvette take notice.
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Re: BEGi Crossfire Turbo Kit by Bell Experimental Group
Originally Posted by Mrmiata
Since apparently you have educated yourself on these options....
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Re: BEGi Crossfire Turbo Kit by Bell Experimental Group
The downtime for a swap is what would kill me as this is my DD. I like this option for the easy return to stock/swap to another xfire down the line. If the NA is ~170hp at the wheels stock I would be happy with anything around 270whp range with the turbo. Turns the NA stock rivals (350z, rx8) into easy kills and moves up to stock sti/evo whp numbers. Don't know if that would also mean kills vs those (prob not on a twisty track) but there shouldn't be much rice left over that will make you look bad.
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Re: BEGi Crossfire Turbo Kit by Bell Experimental Group
Originally Posted by Airscape
The downtime for a swap is what would kill me as this is my DD. I like this option for the easy return to stock/swap to another xfire down the line. If the NA is ~170hp at the wheels stock I would be happy with anything around 270whp range with the turbo. Turns the NA stock rivals (350z, rx8) into easy kills and moves up to stock sti/evo whp numbers. Don't know if that would also mean kills vs those (prob not on a twisty track) but there shouldn't be much rice left over that will make you look bad.
Although I would love a supped up SRT6 I bought the N/A before one existed and never wanted to give up my 6-speed. I am just hoping this works out so I can have almost stock SRT6 power with the tranny and gearing I want. Plus I do not have to start modding from scratch. Now if my wife ends up getting and srt6 then I guess I will be starting from scratch anyway.
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Re: BEGi Crossfire Turbo Kit by Bell Experimental Group
ok i apoligize if this has been covered alreay but it is Jan 2012...and i would like to know the latest update on the turbo for the N/A...cost and HP gains?? i am very interested
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Re: BEGi Crossfire Turbo Kit by Bell Experimental Group
Latest is that the prototype car has been delivered to Corky (20 Jan).
Haven't contacted him since but I heard he was making calls reference the tuning aspect of the project.
I'll get a status check this week.
Haven't contacted him since but I heard he was making calls reference the tuning aspect of the project.
I'll get a status check this week.
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Re: BEGi Crossfire Turbo Kit by Bell Experimental Group
Originally Posted by tighed1
Latest is that the prototype car has been delivered to Corky (20 Jan).
Haven't contacted him since but I heard he was making calls reference the tuning aspect of the project.
I'll get a status check this week.
Haven't contacted him since but I heard he was making calls reference the tuning aspect of the project.
I'll get a status check this week.
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Re: BEGi Crossfire Turbo Kit by Bell Experimental Group
Hello Xfire forum! I am looking for a crossfire to purchase and am also very interested in this thread. I am actively shopping and hope to find the right one in a few weeks. I live in Spring Branch TX and can't beleive that this is all being developed right in my back yard. I met the guys at BEGi a few years ago while I was looking for performance coatings on headers for a previous project and they were extremely nice, informative, and gave a great recomendation. I am excited to hear about this turbo kit and can't wait to tear into the project car. Thanks for sharing updated info. I may drive to kestrel airpark and visit with them soon.
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Re: BEGi Crossfire Turbo Kit by Bell Experimental Group
Originally Posted by jesserettele
Hello Xfire forum! I am looking for a crossfire to purchase and am also very interested in this thread. I am actively shopping and hope to find the right one in a few weeks. I live in Spring Branch TX and can't beleive that this is all being developed right in my back yard. I met the guys at BEGi a few years ago while I was looking for performance coatings on headers for a previous project and they were extremely nice, informative, and gave a great recomendation. I am excited to hear about this turbo kit and can't wait to tear into the project car. Thanks for sharing updated info. I may drive to kestrel airpark and visit with them soon.
Any updates from Corky tighed1?
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Re: BEGi Crossfire Turbo Kit by Bell Experimental Group
Originally Posted by jesserettele
Hello Xfire forum! I am looking for a crossfire to purchase and am also very interested in this thread. I am actively shopping and hope to find the right one in a few weeks. I live in Spring Branch TX and can't beleive that this is all being developed right in my back yard. I met the guys at BEGi a few years ago while I was looking for performance coatings on headers for a previous project and they were extremely nice, informative, and gave a great recomendation. I am excited to hear about this turbo kit and can't wait to tear into the project car. Thanks for sharing updated info. I may drive to kestrel airpark and visit with them soon.
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Re: BEGi Crossfire Turbo Kit by Bell Experimental Group
Email reply from Stephanie!
DJ,
Tim has driven the car to get a good feel for it. I have driven it also, and am doing ECU logs of engine parameters. I need to know what is normal for the car under all conditions and get a feel for what it does. It will make the tuning process go faster. We do have an update on tuning stuff. We will most likely use an ECU reflash from a company out of Australia or Germany. Will send photos when the car is disassembled! And I will also start a new section under the current projects in the shop (on the website) too.
Thanks
Stephanie
DJ,
Tim has driven the car to get a good feel for it. I have driven it also, and am doing ECU logs of engine parameters. I need to know what is normal for the car under all conditions and get a feel for what it does. It will make the tuning process go faster. We do have an update on tuning stuff. We will most likely use an ECU reflash from a company out of Australia or Germany. Will send photos when the car is disassembled! And I will also start a new section under the current projects in the shop (on the website) too.
Thanks
Stephanie
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Re: BEGi Crossfire Turbo Kit by Bell Experimental Group
Originally Posted by tighed1
Email reply from Stephanie!
DJ,
Tim has driven the car to get a good feel for it. I have driven it also, and am doing ECU logs of engine parameters. I need to know what is normal for the car under all conditions and get a feel for what it does. It will make the tuning process go faster. We do have an update on tuning stuff. We will most likely use an ECU reflash from a company out of Australia or Germany. Will send photos when the car is disassembled! And I will also start a new section under the current projects in the shop (on the website) too.
Thanks
Stephanie
DJ,
Tim has driven the car to get a good feel for it. I have driven it also, and am doing ECU logs of engine parameters. I need to know what is normal for the car under all conditions and get a feel for what it does. It will make the tuning process go faster. We do have an update on tuning stuff. We will most likely use an ECU reflash from a company out of Australia or Germany. Will send photos when the car is disassembled! And I will also start a new section under the current projects in the shop (on the website) too.
Thanks
Stephanie
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Re: BEGi Crossfire Turbo Kit by Bell Experimental Group
Originally Posted by tighed1
We will most likely use an ECU reflash from a company out of Australia or Germany.
Kircherer went kapüt, so it won't be them either. Does BEGi have deep enough pockets to source RENNtech/Lorinser/Brabus?
Seems it would be more 'cost effective' to use a home-grown crew... But, I'm involved with SCM for another company altogether, so they all go about it differently as I've seen.
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Re: BEGi Crossfire Turbo Kit by Bell Experimental Group
australia means powerchip and i wouldnt let them tune my lawnmower!! hope the research leads them to renntech or maybe they should call marcin at speedriven. hes the v12 go to guy
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Re: BEGi Crossfire Turbo Kit by Bell Experimental Group
Febuary 21st I am set to cover the cost!!!!! My tax return will bump me up enough to cover the kit..... of course not the shipping of it most likely but we still have plenty of time... Now I am getting excited about this.
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Re: BEGi Crossfire Turbo Kit by Bell Experimental Group
I, too, would like to hear more about who is tuning this thing.
We were all under the impression the tuning would come from the proven methods of Kleeman. I am not doubting Corky in the slightest, just would like to know where the knowledge is coming from
We were all under the impression the tuning would come from the proven methods of Kleeman. I am not doubting Corky in the slightest, just would like to know where the knowledge is coming from
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From: Kellyville, Ok
Re: BEGi Crossfire Turbo Kit by Bell Experimental Group
I dont care if Andy Granatelli's Tuneup Masters does it.. my trust is in BEGi to make sure it's right and not a sub-par performance when he's done.
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Re: BEGi Crossfire Turbo Kit by Bell Experimental Group
Why not eurocharged?... They gave us a usuable product with the na tune when others did not care about the na crowd? They are on this forum correct?? Anybody talk to them about this?? Just curious...
I have the NA tune and have had no issues,,,,,
And they work on some expensive and amazing rides!
I have the NA tune and have had no issues,,,,,
And they work on some expensive and amazing rides!
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Re: BEGi Crossfire Turbo Kit by Bell Experimental Group
Does bring up the question of tuning down the road as well. I probably won't feel the need to add to much more after this but I'm sure others will continue to mod and change parts around. Will others like eurocharged etc who have provided a lot of tuning for the community have the ability or any issues with tuning our newly created monsters? I guess we will be a small subset of an already small market but if I wanna throw on new headers or TB or something it would be good to know that I'm not stuck for tuning.