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The BEGi kit will be a 7lb system, so you should be planning on HP and torque very close to the SRT. The turbo will have some head room left for higher boost, but 7 and maybe 8 will be the limit with the BEGi tuning. A phase two idea which WEB will hopefully prove out, is switching to SRT ECU/Tuning. This approach will allow greater boost primarily because of the ability to pull back timing at higher boost. Until Web get this to work or I get the 55K ECU to work in my car this should be considered a theory, but a damn good one! I believe the SRT ECU has been worth pursuing and mentioned it pages ago on this thread. While it has the potential to solve a ton of issues and work great, it also creates some new issues which need to be sorted out. Mainly some rewiring and fooling a few sensors. I suspect a Eurcharged tune will also be needed to perfect it. I spoke to Jerry at Eurcharged about this idea earlier this year and he thought it was a very sound idea. Web will be using the i/c pump, but for a turbo, Jerry said he could just tune the pump out. Fooling the s/c clutch might be a big resistor. When Importlab switched his SRT to turbo, I was told he had the s/c pulley wired in but strapped to the side of the engine compartment.

 

Thanks for the info! I have emailed about the SPEC clutch torque capacities. Once I have the info I will toss them up here for all the 6 speeds that may be looking to upgrade their clutches.

I like the idea of all of us having s.c pulley wired and strapped to the sides of our cars... I makes me laugh and think I would tell people it was a lucky charm that was worth at least 10 ponies.

 

If things work a hoped for, that s/c pulley zipped tied to the inner fender should make way more than 10hp!

 

That info should be a sticky... I just looked at the site before I saw this post and was wondering how the hell we were supposed to make a decision. The stage 2 is the same price as stage 3 ...... but the 2+ is more ....

 

It would be a useful sticky if it was useful info haha. Here is my email and my response received.

Email:
Hi,
I was wondering if it would be possible for me to get the torque capacity
for the Stage 1 (00120916) and State 2 (00123425) - Chrysler Crossfire
2004-2008 3.2L Spec Clutch parts.

Thank you very much in advance!

Response:
Hi
They do not list them stage 2 holds more and is just as streetable as
stage 1

Sincerely,
LMPerformance, Inc.
LMPerformance - Camaro Parts, Mustang Parts, Corvette Parts, GTO Parts, Charger Parts, G8 Parts, Trans Am Parts and more.

I am now trying to contact the manufacturer direct to see if they have the numbers. If that goes anywhere I will make sure to post it.

 

My das arrived today! I wasnt really expecting it so soon but oh well. Hopefully I can get her started now! Rudy had said that he thinks the car is stuck in transport protect mode.

 

Hopefully they have a useful answer ... That is some serious BS that they are selling a product with no clue to the rating of that product. Whats really sad is I bet no one has ever asked and they still sell them... WOW. lol

 

Anyone putting in an aftermarket, upgraded clutch is going to ask, I wonder if the reason they do not give you the info is because of all the unknowns we discussed earlier about our transmissions, it is very hard to cover all conditions, driving styles, etc. so instead of getting sued when someone has 349lb ft of torque and they roast one made for 350lb ft. they simply would give you a ballpark. Just a thought...

 

Throw me the supplier name and I'll see if they're linked with Nissan

 

I have asked for it and will pop it over to you when they get back into contact with me. I think I might have to call.

 

1). I don't have an extra block off plate as I made mine. I can make you a template easily enough. If I can free up some time, I'll see about doing another one.
2). Will Do
3). -
4). I don't have one handy but it looked like the same form factor IIRC. If I can get a better pic to confirm that it fits like the MAF, I'll order one in along with a connector and hook it up that way in my plumbing.
5). This might sound funny, but looking at the wiring, I might be able to connect the short runner solenoid to this instead and be golden. I'll let everyone know how it works out.
6). I suspected the shaft of allowing a boost leak so I disconnected the linkage and left it connected. I then locked it in the high rpm position and sealed it closed with a dab of rtv, (2) rubber coated washers, and a 10mm nut on the shaft.
7). Nice if I can disable is Das and not have to worry. I just got it tonight so I will have to play with it and see.
8). Exactomundo - Part # 68000238AA
9). I'm not sure on the size difference in the stock injectors on your motor versus the ones in your target ecu. If they are close enough you should be ok with O2 correction while in closed loop. Open loop is another story as you are dealing with pre-programmed fuel tables. The only way to know for sure is by checking it with a wideband.

 

I actually have an old LM-1 wide band that I can loan you. I'll first have to double check and make sure I have a good sensor to go along with it. I'm pretty sure I do as I put a brand new one in the Crossfire. You'll need to install an O2 bung for the sensor if you take it and I know you are cramped for space. All I can offer you there is a picture of where I put mine.

 

Friggin Awesome So Far! I absolutely couldn't ask for anything better!

I plugged in the SRT-6 ECU, swapped MAP sensors, disabled the EGR, avoided making any other wiring changes at the time, car wouldn't start.

Bought an SDS, it arrived earlier than anticipated, called rudy after I had it connected, 5 minutes later she came alive, idled perfect and runs like a champ to the 2-3 psi I ran her to today!

I see error codes for the SC Clutch and Charge Air Cooler in DAS but no CELS yet! It also pulls aggressively for the amount that I did push it so I don't "sense" that it is pulling spark. The AFR was perfect!

It will be interesting to see if the Mercedes logic surrounding the SC Clutch and Charge air cooler defeat each other only and don't come in as a factor in determining spark or imposed limits based on MAP sensor readings, etc. If that's the case, Hell Ya, no need to "defeat" them.

I'll have to put many more miles and complete several trips to make sure that no CELS pop up, but so far so damn good!

This is actually pretty exciting. My entire system has been tweaked and simplified to the nth degree and the SRT-6 ECU is like icing on the cake because everything just suddenly came together like magic and even better than expected!

I don't want to get ahead of myself as I still have plenty of testing to prove things out. I also need to prove out whether or not the AEM will be necessary or not. I've said this before but I'm hoping that with my higher compression and a stock SRT-6 tune equates to an SRT-6 after market tune! That would be the ultimate!

Speaking of tune, so far, after a 35 minute drive my LTFTs are sitting pretty at 1.6% !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Replicating what I have now and potentially creating Modded SRT-6 power is as follows:

Necessary Parts

SRT6 ECU
SRT6 Injectors
SRT Map Sensor
Rotrex Supercharger
Custom Mounts
Custom Alternator drive pulley
Custom Inlet Restrictor (Boost Control - If Required)
SC Drive Belt
Air/Water Intercooler and Massive HE
Hoses, Clamps, Misc. IC
*Coolant Reservoir relocate
*EGR delete
*Short Runner Delete

Probably just under $5k, less based on ones ability to find deals on used SRT-6 parts

Optional Supporting Mods

Wideband - $350.00
SPD Datalogger and Knock Sensor - $$
?? - Blue Top Solenoids - $300.00
?? - SRT-6 Tranny and rear end - $$

I have an SRT tranny on the way to be able to go/test in any direction I so desire (Full power, grippy tires, track worthy car or some flavor thereof). I'm not sure if I'm going to install it just yet, but it is there and waiting if the time comes. The great news is that others could go this route and use a restrictor to limit boost and stay within the limits of the 330 tranny to keep costs down, but they would also have a system they could turn up if they ever had the desire to go hog wild!!!

 

Web,

That is fantastic news on the ECU! I hope you will continue to test and let us know what you think. While the 55K ECU will enable to my car to start normal from the key, I doubt many fully understand the ground you just broke and all the potential that this opens up for n/a V6's and n/a V8's Thank you for trying to a crazy theory and making it work!

 

SPEC Clutch info update:

Francis,

Thank you for your inquiry.* The stage 1 holds 275 ft lbs tq, and the stage 2 holds 315 ft lbs.* Additionally, the st2+ holds 353 and st3+ 433.** The most popular stages for the Crossfire in order are st2, 2+ and 3+.* Regards,

SPECTech**

Looks like 2+ for me.

 

Great news, 2+ for me as well.

 

Great news Web!

 

Im thinking 2+ sounds pretty dang good.

 

maybe if enough of us get together we can get a small group discount.