NeedsWings na and srt6 CAI group buy
Re: NeedsWings na and srt6 CAI group buy
Originally Posted by NeedsWings
"Do the Automatics have the same cutoff problem on dynos that the 6 speeds have?"
ill have to verfiy that we can get a na auto xfire to dyno up to 6k withthe mercedes diagnostic laptop, it will unatainable withotu the mercedes laptop afaik
ill have to verfiy that we can get a na auto xfire to dyno up to 6k withthe mercedes diagnostic laptop, it will unatainable withotu the mercedes laptop afaik
I see no need in reving to 6k since hp falls off at 5,200 no reason to rev beyond that.
Re: NeedsWings na and srt6 CAI group buy
Originally Posted by Maxwell
the autos don't have the cut off so no need to spin the front wheels for dyno.
I see no need in reving to 6k since hp falls off at 5,200 no reason to rev beyond that.
I see no need in reving to 6k since hp falls off at 5,200 no reason to rev beyond that.
if the hp dropped off like a rock after 5200 then yes but as you can see it does not.
Re: NeedsWings na and srt6 CAI group buy
i was thinking the same, its not like that car falls on its face after 5200 and if you shifted there you would be low in rpms coming into next gear, you wouldn't be in your power band at all. i understand though that for dyno runs it is ok because you get an idea but also you don't see your af or anything after that so you don't really know whats going on after 5200 to your redline. im sure it is fine but would be nice to see
Re: NeedsWings na and srt6 CAI group buy
I'm just spewing the facts from mercedes, yet they tune the m112 power output to 230hp not the 215hp as in the crossfire.
but from that graph you do see tq starts dropping quickly at 5200rpm. it also looks like power in the graph is curving downwards at 6000 rpm, no reason in producing anymore power above 5200 anyways, since this is a rigid 90 degree block, anything over 6000rpm is getting to be a bit too shaky with vibrations
but from that graph you do see tq starts dropping quickly at 5200rpm. it also looks like power in the graph is curving downwards at 6000 rpm, no reason in producing anymore power above 5200 anyways, since this is a rigid 90 degree block, anything over 6000rpm is getting to be a bit too shaky with vibrations
Last edited by Maxwell; 04-13-2008 at 09:37 AM.
Re: NeedsWings na and srt6 CAI group buy
Originally Posted by Maxwell
I'm just spewing the facts from mercedes, yet they tune the m112 power output to 230hp not the 215hp as in the crossfire.
but from that graph you do see tq starts dropping quickly at 5200rpm. it also looks like power in the graph is curving downwards at 6000 rpm, no reason in producing anymore power above 5200 anyways, since this is a rigid 90 degree block, anything over 6000rpm is getting to be a bit too shaky with vibrations
but from that graph you do see tq starts dropping quickly at 5200rpm. it also looks like power in the graph is curving downwards at 6000 rpm, no reason in producing anymore power above 5200 anyways, since this is a rigid 90 degree block, anything over 6000rpm is getting to be a bit too shaky with vibrations
looking at the dyno graph i posted you gain both wtq and whp from 5200 all the way to about 5800rpms then you may lose 3wtq after 5200 rpms but still gain hp. it is beneficial to run all the way to redline/6k rpm. you can shift at 5200 and lose races/time at the track if you race but i plan to run through my entire powerband and use the car to its peak power as it was intended. I raced my last supercharged car actually past redline every time i raced it (also a supercharged V6) for over 4 years with zero problems. you will see substantially better track times and you will fall into your powerband much better when your car shifts by going to redline. I can type it out in a chart using excel if it would make it easier for you to understand, it will be next week though. i am leaving today to go on a business trip and will not return until sunday.
ignore the facts and grannyshift your car but that is the simple truth. I plan to get the maximum power out of my car but that is my choice. It will not harm it at all
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Re: NeedsWings na and srt6 CAI group buy
ok, got some good news/bad news
bad news = i just spoke with the powdercoating shop and they havent gotten to our stuff yet but say they will this week.
good news = just got off the phone with the mandrel bender and the 2nd batch should be done tomorrow morning, so both batches should be powdercoated at the same time. so they should all ship at the same time for you guys.
bad news = i just spoke with the powdercoating shop and they havent gotten to our stuff yet but say they will this week.
good news = just got off the phone with the mandrel bender and the 2nd batch should be done tomorrow morning, so both batches should be powdercoated at the same time. so they should all ship at the same time for you guys.
Re: NeedsWings na and srt6 CAI group buy
Originally Posted by tylerxfire
, ok i will live, hope this grills worth it and looks and fits as nice as i am imagining it to. anyone have good pics of it installed to look at while i wait
I think you're confused. This is the CAI thread, no grills here.
You can't smoke that here unless you brought enough to share with the group!