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Re: I've smashed up my SRT6
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Left Chassis/Crossmember https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.cro...0f099625bb.jpg The black piece that I can't get off https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.cro...4dbe882393.jpg the right side |
Re: I've smashed up my SRT6
What a frustrating day… made some progress but am stuck on multiple issues, since we last spoke I’ve removed the bonnet, lights, bumper, fan, some sections of wing.
I had a new tyre put on as the tyre wouldn’t inflate, turns out the alloy wheel is cracked, I see that it can be repaired via a TIG weld, so will look into that as it’s impossible to get a SRT6 alloy here. I see that I need quite a few plastic pieces underneath, wheel arches etc, also a coolant tank, fan etc. But more importantly I see that the frame rail is twisted, I did hope that the crossmember would be a bolt on part, but it’s welded on. I wonder if putting on the jig could save the crossmember or if it will need cutting off and a new one put on? Anyway the specific bits that I need advice on are… I’ve tried to remove the rocker panel so I can remove the quarter panel and have followed the instructions online, removed the 2 screws, removed the 4 clips, the part I’m stuck on is removing the jacking points, I understand you need to pry at the same time as unscrewing with a flat screwdriver or similar but I just can’t get the screw to turn and have rounded the plastic screw. The problem I have is I am working from the floor, and I can’t get sufficient leverage to pry the jacking point off and now a rounded screw. Could jack up but I need the jacking point to do that! I have limited space with no other jack apart from the one provided. I’ve also ran into difficulty in removing the bumper bolts, they are rusted on, I ended up using a dremel to cut around them just to make some progress, they don’t want to come off at all. Also am struggling in removing the radiator, the 2 hoses on the left are difficult to access with the jubilee clips facing downwards and the 2 other connections in the middle/right just will not turn at all. I’m also struggling to work out how to remove the black metal trim that goes across that would usually sit onto of the headlights. Also I see I have a belt or 2 that has come out of place on the engine and one is split. If you could please advise which belts I need it would be appreciated. I’ve made a start of trying to remove windscreen but again encountering problems, have removed wipers/cowl trim, windscreen surround panels, and am ready to remove but there is a lot of broken glass, so don’t think I’d be able to use a glass line. Perhaps I could use a dremel to cut the sealant/silicone underneath all the way around, it’s only held down on 3 sides isn’t it. I wasn’t intending on rebuilding the whole car myself I don’t have the tools/knowledge for that, but was going to strip everything back and see what I could do myself. Also wondering if it’s best to wait for a black spares or repair crossfire to come on the market or buy the parts individually, buying a donor car looks like it’s going to be the cheaper option, decisions decisions. |
Re: I've smashed up my SRT6
Originally Posted by machfivecrossfire
(Post 989220)
It might be best to have a body shop do an estimate. Its extremely hard to tell from a picture. Looks like everything attached to the frame. Both Control arms and what is attached to the wheel. Possible sway bar. Steering linkage possibly. What do the mounting points to the frame look like? Do you see damage at those points or the components that are attached?
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Re: I've smashed up my SRT6
Originally Posted by GraphiteGhost
(Post 989234)
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:( A lot of issues here given the picture(s) views, one I see that wasn't yet mentioned (unless I missed it), was the engine hit at all? If so you might have front bearing/associated accessories damage as well. Upon tearing all the front end damage down your going to find things you may not have seen or thought of. Good luck with the project! :( . |
Re: I've smashed up my SRT6
It would probably be cheaper and easier to sell yours for parts and buy another.
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Re: I've smashed up my SRT6
mp3wizard
Even though it's a rare 2006 SRT6 Coupe (one of 296 manufactured), the sheer cost of parts known and unknown and the labor costs IS NOT a good financial decision to rebuild this car. Buy this SRT6 from the insurance company for a minimal fee and keep it for a parts car to strip off all of the remaining viable resaleable parts, due to the rarity of available parts for a 19 year old car. There must be a few SRT6 Crossfires for sale in the UK at this time. time to move on from this car, due to the financial concerns..... Dennis DTMenace |
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I know what your saying guys... but...
I can see that I am able to source most parts for £1500/$1900, lets assume the jig work is £1000/$1260, & suspension £500/$620 that would be a total of around £3000/$3800. I can also see that several spares or repair black standard crossfires have sold for around £600/£800 with electrical or engine problems with all the bits I would need to repair mine. I know mine has 154k on the clock, but it was the only one I saw at the lower car tax rate here, it makes quite a difference, £395 vs £695 yearly which is charged for 2006/2007 models, there are currently 2 others for sale here, £8000-£10000, I'm not looking to spend that much, If I repair mine at the costs above that will bring me up to around £8000 total cost with a resale value of around £6000, which hopefully climbs in value in years to come. If I try to sale as parts now, what do I have to offer really a 154k engine, 2 seats and 3 wheels, and a few other bits, I can't see how it would make much more sense, there are only around 50 srt owners here, so I don't think there would be that much demand, and if I kept as spares myself I don't really have the room to keep 2 cars, If I bought a donor for mine, I would sell or scrap after. |
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That car is probably saveable. A good body shop with a frame machine can determine if the frame can be pulled. It can be cut and a used piece welded on. There is a crossfire out here in San Diego that has had that done to it. There is only 1 belt on the engine that runs all components, Im not sure what is going on in that picture. Access to the bottom of the radiator is acheived by removing the lower plastic shield. 4 bolts. An N/A can be used for a donor. The major difference is the larger brakes. The underpinnings are the same. Steering and suspension are the same. Both are R170 chassies. Everything behind the bumper cover is the same. You might consider a left handed drill bit for the jacking point screws or dremel off the screw head then drill and tap it. For the steering I would also check the steering gearbox for damage. If it were my car. I would try and save it. But your either going to need a deep wallet. Or some tools. Or both. I would take it to a shop that does frame work First. Even if it has to have metal grafted to it. It will still require the measurements from point to point to be correct and pulling is the way to do that. Take it to a specialist in framework. That will take the guesswork out of the equation.
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Re: I've smashed up my SRT6
Originally Posted by machfivecrossfire
(Post 989307)
That car is probably saveable. A good body shop with a frame machine can determine if the frame can be pulled. It can be cut and a used piece welded on. There is a crossfire out here in San Diego that has had that done to it. There is only 1 belt on the engine that runs all components, Im not sure what is going on in that picture. Access to the bottom of the radiator is acheived by removing the lower plastic shield. 4 bolts. An N/A can be used for a donor. The major difference is the larger brakes. The underpinnings are the same. Steering and suspension are the same. Both are R170 chassies. Everything behind the bumper cover is the same. You might consider a left handed drill bit for the jacking point screws or dremel off the screw head then drill and tap it. For the steering I would also check the steering gearbox for damage. If it were my car. I would try and save it. But your either going to need a deep wallet. Or some tools. Or both. I would take it to a shop that does frame work First. Even if it has to have metal grafted to it. It will still require the measurements from point to point to be correct and pulling is the way to do that. Take it to a specialist in framework. That will take the guesswork out of the equation.
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Re: I've smashed up my SRT6
Wizard "I can see that I am able to source most parts for £1500/$1900, lets assume the jig work is £1000/$1260, & suspension £500/$620 that would be a total of around £3000/$3800."
I do not know how you are figuring cost, but two good tires in the USA will cost about $600 and you will need to paint the entire car $3,000. You are having trouble removing jack pads! Did you figure the new airbags/dash into those cost estimates? |
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Well I was going to source a black NA crossfire and not bother with paintwork,
I did yep, dash $125, airbags $40 & $60, but ideally i'd just remove from donor $1000 car |
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interesting links; Those prices are half or better, of what we would pay here in the States! Are you able to drive and pick them up, or must you get them shipped?
The car can be saved. None the less that is a lot of work and you will need the right tools to get the job done. There seems to be ripped torn sheet metal in the inner structures if I see your posted pictures correctly. Can you get them back to matching and then weld them. When I made repairs to mine I used SEM adhesive in places that had been spot welded from the factory when overlapping metal. Something for you to consider as welding can alter the strength of the metal. It can crack alongside a weld after some use. There are special cutting tools to break loose spot welds. |
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yh the crossfire is really unloved in the UK, the prices are crazy low, I'd probably get it shipped, just torn between waiting for a donor car or buying the parts.
It was my daily but i'm not in a serious rush to repair so could wait for the right donor, I suspect all those little bits of plastics and the like would add up if bought individually. The plan is to do what I can myself, but I wouldn't touch structural or welding. But you are right I am in over my head, lets see how it goes lol |
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I sent u a PM and gave u some advice ,,,i think u should read that pm again jim
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Re: I've smashed up my SRT6
Originally Posted by mp3wizard
(Post 989302)
Yep definietly issues, as you can see the belts are not as it should be, but I can't see any obvious engine damage unless you can...
:( Sorry, I cannot even guess to estimate what may or may not be there, but also hidden. Sorry to say but your going to have to decide after a complete teardown (so far that is bringing up new challenges as you go along) what to do. A few very experienced members are advising you, and I would give that advice serious in depth consideration, and stick with that decision. I believe going against the odds can reap rewards BUT unless you thoroughly consider the entire evidence after a complete inspection, your going to have to take either a leap of faith or write it off as a parts car. I wish you the best either way, I would not even start that project, as I do not have the time or $'s to get it right. Good luck, either way! :( |
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Best of luck in which ever path you take with your car.
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thanks all, appreciate the guidance.
I managed to pick up a new serpetine belt for $23 delivered from a former SRT6 owner who had a spare, that should sort out the belt issue hopefully. Alloy wheel repair, new tyre, Radiator, coolant tank, suspension would be good to sort out next, at least then the car will be fully operational, there are numerous garages/bodyshops just around the corner so can pay them a visit as and when. Still torn on a donor or buying the parts, i'll keep checking daily and see what appears. |
Re: I've smashed up my SRT6
A donor would be a better choice IMHO. You will get the parts that you need and a lot of the little things like clips, fasteners, nuts bolts etc and thier locations. You will also have a visual of exactly how it should be put back together. You will also have spare parts to sell. That can help you recoup some of your money. As far as tools go. All you really need is ratchets, extensions, swivel, maybe. Torx sockets, reverse torx sockets metric sockets, metric wrenches and screwdrivers. And you do not even need full sets of these. A jack and a set of jack stands. If you spray a good penetrating product like pb blaster on the nuts and bolts the night before you plan on removing them it will be a little easier for them to break loose. If the body shop gets the pulls right then you are just swapping parts from one car to the other. If you take your time, it is not that hard. Its just a car. The complexities in crossfires are the modules and computer controls.
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