as the people on shark tank would say,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,"I'm Out",,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

 

I don't want to hijack this thread but I want to throw in my 2¢ and defend the members who spearheaded the suspension upgrades being developed by Ground Control.

First, I have some recent experience in handling a group buy with the custom made Crossfire stainless steel wire mesh grilles produced by Zunsport in the UK. Understand that it is VERY rare for a company to consider taking on the manufacture of custom parts intended for a limited production, short model year run vehicle like the Crossfire. Zunsport had asked me why there are not more sales coming from the USA for their custom made grilles. This is what I told them . . .

This root issue is that the Crossfire was a limited production vehicle that was only produced from 2004 to 2008. That means the fleet currently consists of 6 - 10 year old vehicles. As the fleet ages, the number of enthusiastic owners dwindles rapidly. Most people buying a used Crossfire simply don't have the passion for the car that would translate into spending monies on dress up accessories and modifications.

IMHO we should kiss the *** of any company (like Ground Control) who is willing to take on the task of developing products for the Crossfire. Also, the members who spearheaded this suspension upgrade project should NOT be ridiculed for their efforts and for the enthusiasm they have shown for this project. They are NOT personally responsible for the unexpected delays in bringing this project to market.

For those who have been openly critical toward Hustler316, TommyT, and others who contributed their time and positive efforts to bring this project to market . . . I suggest you simply move on to another thread. There is plenty of good reading material on this forum.

Personally, I would like to extend my sincere thanks to Hustler316 and TommyT for your efforts. I know it is not an easy task and I also know that you simply cannot please everyone no matter what you do . . . especially on an internet forum where it's just too easy to sit back, be critical, second guess everything that's going on and spray poison darts at everyone and everything . . .

Just saying . . .

 

+1 ^^^^^^ what he said.

 

How much is too much? I have a basic idea what they will cost as I have discussed this in detail with GC. What I don't have is an exact number but if you look at what their other kits cost you will have a good idea what to expect. I hope that everyone understands that I have released as much information as GC will let me...do I know more than I am posting...? obviously, but I have been asked not to say anything until the parts are officially released. I can't control the release date, or the price, or anything else for that matter. If you can't handle waiting for official release than more on to a different thread, being negative doesn't help anything move any faster. I'd rather have them take their time to make sure the parts are right vs. rushing parts through production and risk and inferior product.

For some of you it seems you'd rather have the product done quickly and sacrifice quality, which I'm certain would not only ruin future sales but also risk ruining a stellar company's reputation. I'm pretty sure no one wants that, but at the same time it seems some of you are not happy waiting for the product to be done correctly so basically both scenarios are lose lose for a handful of people on here.

This forum is suppose to be a place for fellow enthusiasts to gather and share information as well share in the passion we all have for this platform. I'm not sure why some people have to spread negativity all the time. You don't see this same attitude on FB, it's amazing how anonymity has the same effect as alcohol. It allows you to say things you would never say to someone in person or if you were sober. The internet is like a bar, mostly good people but inevitably it's always sprinkled with a-holes that everyone else tries to steer clear of...you know who you are.

Edit: This was not directed to the person I quoted above, I only quoted you to try and answer you question on the first paragraph.

 

I think a lot of people on here have no sense of humor at all, extremely thin skins and are prone to getting p!ssed off when someone takes a gentle poke at their favourite project at the time.
I've seen many projects come and go, mostly go.

Lighten up folks, get a sense of humor for crissakes.

 

Well unfortunately sarcasm and dry humor does not translate very well in print form....hence why the and the were created.

 

I'm just curious to see how low these will go.

Right now my KW's are on the lowest possible setting (probably just a hair over 2" drop) and it's still not nearly low enough for my taste so I am removing the adjustment rings this weekend to drop them down a little bit more.

 

Its gotten pretty bad in here...

 

Hi everyone,

I won't comment all the negativity written in this thread. I just wan't to say that I'm waiting in piece and harmony until this kit will be released. I know that this kit will solve my issue with the tires touching the fenders every time I make a hard acceleration.

My car is like a go-cart today especially after we have upgraded the 4 rear subframe bushings. The car handles really great but the fender is still a problem. I hope that the stiffer springs and thicker dampers will solve this issue. If not I will have to change the offset on the rear rims which I don't want to do just yet

/Adam

 

I am starting to think the ones making stupid remakrs and posts are sponsored by other suspension vendors.

 

If you have facebook keep your eyes peeled today...that is all

 

My eyes have been peeling that page 20 times a day for the last 2 months. It won't be up long before I'm on the phone.

Les

 

LOL Les I'll post up my shipping confirmation just for you...I'd say you may be on the phone later today

 

Who is your sponsor?

 

I believe he was referring to me.

 

No I was referring to Fubu and his stupid remark.

 

He was referring to me being sponsored by GC, and the negative nancies secretly being sponsored by other companies, hence all the negativity....I think

 

YOU KNOW, if they have a good product at a fair price, I will buy it, as for the *** wipes and their bullshit attitudes, and the suggestion I should kiss their ***, I have but one answer...and you all won't like it. GC has produced a whole hell of a lot of suspensions, and whether the pro racers got this started and need their *** kissed for it or not, they have to put a price on it. I too have been in contact with them and stated my side of the story to them. Those of you that DO know me know that I'm am only going to take so much and then it's time to put up or shut up. We are car guys. Fights DO happen in the pits where I race. Maybe not in the world you all live in, but here, they do... So, I will deal with GC on this purchase, if we go that route Those of you who don't like what I have to say can use the IGNORE FEATURE. That is why it was put there. But don't ever tell me to go away. You mouth off, then you will get an answer. My attitude will adjust to yours. Love the cars, hate the bullshit. Now, I am headed down to the track, in Indy, to watch some real race cars and drivers. Grand Prix is tomorrow. A whole host of races leading up to the Indy cars. Taking some friends to the company suite. You all have a nice evening. The Z-28 is sounding better every day...

 

Thank you for your input, as always it's hostile and aggressive. I can see why fights break out where you "race"...Enjoy Indy it should be a good show this weekend.

 

Well Docs like a bantam rooster. King of the barn yard.