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Old 03-25-2014 | 02:14 AM
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Hi,

would I be correct in thinking.

If the intercooler pump is starting to fail it might increase heat problems and maybe the cause of the intermittent spurious alarm I have a problem with

see here https://www.crossfireforum.org/forum...uous-beep.html

just a thought ?
 
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Old 03-25-2014 | 06:29 AM
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Amazon.com: Johnson Pump 3/4 in. CM30P7-1 Centrifugal Pump 10-24504-03: Sports & Outdoors Amazon.com: Johnson Pump 3/4 in. CM30P7-1 Centrifugal Pump 10-24504-03: Sports & Outdoors
Is the one I have. But yeah, intercooler pump. If you go with the Bosch it's going to take you 15 minutes to do yourself. If you use the Johnson it might be a little more because it's different so you have to use either a different mount or line the old one with a bike tube.

Do it yourself though. The dealership will first try to replace your whole supercharger and then when that fails they'll replace your old pump with the same pump that failed. Also, if you haven't replaced your CPS you should do that now too.
 
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Old 03-25-2014 | 06:30 AM
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Secondly, do the pump ASAP. I let mine go too long and I think that's why my supercharger pulley went bad at the clutch.
 
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Old 03-25-2014 | 08:01 AM
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Originally Posted by zombiehunter
Amazon.com: Johnson Pump 3/4 in. CM30P7-1 Centrifugal Pump 10-24504-03: Sports & Outdoors Is the one I have. But yeah, intercooler pump. If you go with the Bosch it's going to take you 15 minutes to do yourself. If you use the Johnson it might be a little more because it's different so you have to use either a different mount or line the old one with a bike tube.

Do it yourself though. The dealership will first try to replace your whole supercharger and then when that fails they'll replace your old pump with the same pump that failed. Also, if you haven't replaced your CPS you should do that now too.
excuse my newness but what is the CPS? Please
 
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Old 03-25-2014 | 08:23 AM
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Originally Posted by UK-John-SRT-6
excuse my newness but what is the CPS? Please
Crankshaft Position Sensor

It is located at the left rear of the engine on the bell housing.

Replace ONLY with Bosch brand.

( There is also a Camshaft Position Sensor, but they rarely cause any problems )
 
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Old 03-25-2014 | 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted by UK-John-SRT-6
Hi,

would I be correct in thinking.

If the intercooler pump is starting to fail it might increase heat problems and maybe the cause of the intermittent spurious alarm I have a problem with

see here https://www.crossfireforum.org/forum...uous-beep.html

just a thought ?
To answer this one - no, the I/C pump would have nothing to do with that loud, continuous beep (alarm) you are hearing. Yes, the failing pump will allow the intake air temps to increase, but that is why the super charger (S/C) has a clutch on it - it shuts the S/C down to keep from causing damage to it.

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Old 03-25-2014 | 09:22 AM
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If it is the pump the car would be OK just after you started it and it is cold. The problem arises when the car warms up and the coolant in the SC circuit is not sent through the heat exchanger in front of the radiator.
The impellers on the old pumps are prone to falling apart and not moving any fluid. They are made by the sintering process I think and tend to fracture at the sharp edges on the impeller shaft splines.
I am changing mine when it warms up enough before my one fails.

 
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Old 03-25-2014 | 10:38 AM
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thank you all

in regards to the Bosch Crankcase sensor do we have a part number please

regards john
 
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Old 03-25-2014 | 10:53 AM
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BOSCH Crankshaft Position Sensor 0261210141 Mercedes Benz CLK320 ML320 C280 C35

George
 
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Old 03-25-2014 | 10:55 AM
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Old 03-25-2014 | 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by UK-John-SRT-6
Yes, that one too :
( courtesy of onehundred80 ) :

Bosch Item Number: 0 261 210 170 about $45 in some places, see post #1.
Also see, Replacing the Crankshaft Position Sensor with photos for another supplier.
Mercedes Benz #: 003 153 27 28 - Also Replaces 003 153 28 28
 
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Old 03-25-2014 | 11:03 AM
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I love this place

thank you
 
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Old 03-25-2014 | 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by UK-John-SRT-6
I love this place

thank you
No thanks required, just send money. LOL
CPS Replacement and details.
 
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Old 03-25-2014 | 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by onehundred80
No thanks required, just send money. LOL
CPS Replacement and details.
seriously thanks just oredered the pump and the crank sensor off FCP Euro parts?

many thanks
 
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Old 03-25-2014 | 06:32 PM
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Don't know if you know the history of the car and I don't know how many miles you have on it but when I got my pump replaced I got a full flush as well.
 
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Old 03-25-2014 | 06:44 PM
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I have no idea what's causing that annoying beep. If it was something serious I would think the check engine light would be flashing. Keep searching for the cause so the rest of us get an education along with you.

Les
 
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Old 03-25-2014 | 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted by velociabstract
I have no idea what's causing that annoying beep. If it was something serious I would think the check engine light would be flashing. Keep searching for the cause so the rest of us get an education along with you.

Les
The beep question has been answered. It was a parking sensor.
 
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Old 03-25-2014 | 06:56 PM
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Now I have to verify 2 threads before I reply? This is getting tougher every day! I'm not giving up on giving error free and timely advice. However, thank goodness it was only a freaking parking sensor.

To the OP (original poster) your going to loose your acceleration virginity when the new pump is installed. Be careful with the beast unleashed.

Les
 
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Old 03-26-2014 | 02:20 AM
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Originally Posted by velociabstract
Now I have to verify 2 threads before I reply? This is getting tougher every day! I'm not giving up on giving error free and timely advice. However, thank goodness it was only a freaking parking sensor.

To the OP (original poster) your going to loose your acceleration virginity when the new pump is installed. Be careful with the beast unleashed.

Les
Brilliant post

sorry I have ended up cross threading

Noise was a dodgy FRONT parking sensor, I am looking forward to getting the new pump fitted and having the acceleration midrange as well as off the blocks

thank you all
 
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Old 03-26-2014 | 12:46 PM
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Chiming in here, just as everyone else suggests: Intercooler Pump. I just replaced mine myself with an OEM because of the same issue. HUGE difference. Night and day. Easy job; took me three hours. Next time it will take one hour, I'm certain. It was super easy, especially with the OEM Bosch pump; that one you just plug it in an go. Also GET RID OF THOSE DAMN SPRING CLAMPS while you're in there. Those have to be the most frustrating aspect of getting that pump out. Put worm hose clamps on, as suggested by many here; you'll thank yourself for paying the extra 77 cents for the pair (what I paid at AutoZone).
 


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