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Old 12-11-2013 | 10:08 AM
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Can I stack code 3 generation 2.
 
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Old 12-11-2013 | 10:12 AM
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What size crank pulley are your stacking it with and what are your fueling mods and elevation?
 
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Old 12-11-2013 | 10:17 AM
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With 178mm. SL55 fuel pump and fuel filter regulator upgrade. Elevation I live in louisville ky.
 
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Old 12-11-2013 | 10:44 AM
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Can I stack code 3 generation 2.

WOW . . . You're really getting into your new Crossfire SRT6. Preparing for your first Tail of the Dragon this spring, right? I think that's GREAT! ENJOY!
 
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Old 12-11-2013 | 10:57 AM
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Red Dog. Yes. Its xmas. I picked up 2nd job. Working 80 hrs a week. I want car done by Tail. I can use all suggestions in finishing the car. I want to do once and be done and relax. Lol. I do have some Surprises for tail.
 
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Old 12-11-2013 | 11:02 AM
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I work at UPS this is our peak season so the next coming week I will be working 60+ there and other job 35 hours. I will not get off a day until new years day.
 
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Old 12-11-2013 | 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by austinbarrylee
With 178mm. SL55 fuel pump and fuel filter regulator upgrade. Elevation I live in louisville ky.
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As long as your Air/Fuel is fine and you're running 93 octane, I think you should be good to go. I went with the SL55 pump and injectors to solve my lean condition.

Here's my story: https://www.crossfireforum.org/forum...ved-again.html
 

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Old 12-11-2013 | 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by grip grip
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As long as your Air/Fuel is fine and you're running 93 octane, I think you should be good to go. I went with the SL55 pump and injectors to solve my lean condition.

Here's my story: https://www.crossfireforum.org/forum...ved-again.html
Grip grip New Fuel injectors $550 and new fuel pump $400. I don't know much 178mm pulleys. That's almost equal to new 178mm system. Do you which one has the greater HP.
 

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Old 12-11-2013 | 12:09 PM
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I am totally new to this Supercharger concept. Previous car was motor and nos.My dream and I hope to it to this car. Supercharger, turbo, & NOS best of all world.
 
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Old 12-11-2013 | 12:22 PM
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I work at UPS this is our peak season so the next coming week I will be working 60+ there and other job 35 hours. I will not get off a day until new years day.
Working all those hours there's nobody that can call you lazy - stupid, yes - but not lazy.
 
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Old 12-11-2013 | 12:27 PM
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Working all those hours there's nobody that can call you lazy - stupid, yes - but not lazy.
My car will be done then I can be lazy. Near future doin career change. Gettin a desk job. Use my degrees. Go out blue collar with a BANG!!!
 
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Old 12-11-2013 | 12:29 PM
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grip grip new fuel injectors $550 and new fuel pump $400. I don't know much 178mm pulleys. That's almost equal to new 178mm system. Do you which one has the greater hp.

After reading that, I'm convinced you need some rest.



 

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Old 12-11-2013 | 12:33 PM
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huh????????
Ok I am ignorant to this supercharger situation. According to you, in order to double stack correctly with Code 3 and 178mm. I need to buy a new fuel pump and injections. Which I stated the prices. If I take off the Code 3 and just put 178mm system from Needswings it cost a little more. When double stacking don't I need to buy 178mm parts.
 
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Old 12-11-2013 | 12:36 PM
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I am taking double stack means 2 system working together. Code 3 and 178mm.
 
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Old 12-11-2013 | 01:03 PM
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Ok I am ignorant to this supercharger situation. According to you, in order to double stack correctly with Code 3 and 178mm. I need to buy a new fuel pump and injections. Which I stated the prices. If I take off the Code 3 and just put 178mm system from Needswings it cost a little more. When double stacking don't I need to buy 178mm parts.
If I were you, I'd just stick with the proven three (Code 3, NW intake, and a tune). Those mods with drag radials will get you into the 11's at the track and make for one hell of a daily driver that won't give you problems.

There isn't a huge difference between a fully modded car like mine and a 65mm car on the street. I think the difference only shows in the time-slips from the track.

If you want low 11's, just add nitrous.

I suggest more research before you start spending your hard-earned money on what may not make any discernible difference.

I go overboard, since I enjoy working on the car myself, and tweaking it through testing and experimentation. Unless you really want to start spending time under the hood trouble-shooting issues, I would think twice before going all out on it.
 
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Old 12-11-2013 | 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by austinbarrylee
Ok I am ignorant to this supercharger situation. According to you, in order to double stack correctly with Code 3 and 178mm. I need to buy a new fuel pump and injections. Which I stated the prices. If I take off the Code 3 and just put 178mm system from Needswings it cost a little more. When double stacking don't I need to buy 178mm parts.
Changing out the crank pulley was the "original" way to increase performance before the various smaller supercharger pulleys started becoming available. "Stacking" or running "stacked" is using one of the larger crank pulleys (178mm, 181mm or 185mm) AND also using a smaller supercharger pulley.

I put in blue in the chart below what you're thinking of doing . . . you say you have the 178mm crank pulley and want to go stacked by installing a 65mm Code 3 supercharger pulley . . . That's pretty aggressive . . . You would definitely need the SL55 fuel pump, the adjustable fuel pressure regulator and possibly the larger fuel injectors. I'm not an expert in this area . . . I know just enough to be dangerous. I would strongly suggest, however, that when getting to that level of engine mods you'll need to be able to monitor your AFR (among other engine stats) to be sure you don't run lean and damage your engine.

It took me a while to find this chart . . .

It's in post #268 by Billy22Bob in this thread https://www.crossfireforum.org/forum...lable-now.html


-----pulleys----------rwhp-----air intake-----fuel-------fuel-----------fuel --------Cooling required---MAP*
------------------------------------cfm--------g/sec----cc/inj/min----lb/inj/min-----kBTU/hr----kW----- psi
Stock---74/155-------290---------649--------30.4--------476---------45.3--------------37------11--- 13.4
DCAI ---74/155-------297---------665--------31.2--------488--------46.5---------------42------12--- 14.1
ECStock-65/155------316---------734--------34.5--------539---------51.3--------------61------18--- 17.1
62Stock-62/155------326---------768--------36.1--------564---------53.7--------------71------21--- 18.5
62DCAI-62/155-------337---------791--------37.2--------581---------55.3--------------78------23--- 19.5
65DCAI-ASP-65/178-359---------866--------40.7--------635---------60.5-------------102------30--- 22.7-----STACKED! 328kW (437hp) Crank - sub 11 sec 1/4mile car
62DCAI-ASP-62/185-371---------907--------42.6--------665---------63.4-------------116------34----24.5-----STACKED..339kW (452hp) Crank - Missile Status

Anyone more knowledgeable than I (that is likely almost everyone) should please chime in here . . .
 

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Old 12-11-2013 | 01:22 PM
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Yeah, I'm with Grip on this one. I am not sure why you think you need to stack. I am a supercharger pulley guy. I don't care for crank pulleys. I would run the code 3, cold air intake, and a tune for now. Now if you are going with some modified manifolds, then you might look at more boost, more fuel. But, I would try the simple set up 1st, and go from there. That is guaranteed low 12's.... 11's with spray...maybe. But to be consistent you would definitely have to look at manifolds, maybe injectors, and certainly a 55 pump. I am not sure if you meant you already have the 55 pump/ regulator kit or not, but once you get into more boost, like a 62mm supercharger pulley or a 185 crank pulley, you will need more fuel for sure, and probably more injector as well. A lot of ways to get there. Each have taken their own path. I'm just a s/c pulley guy, others have their ways...good luck...happy modding... I truck for a seed company, so we get down your way a lot....
 
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Old 12-11-2013 | 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by grip grip
If I were you, I'd just stick with the proven three (Code 3, NW intake, and a tune). Those mods with drag radials will get you into the 11's at the track and make for one hell of a daily driver that won't give you problems.

There isn't a huge difference between a fully modded car like mine and a 65mm car on the street. I think the difference only shows in the time-slips from the track.

If you want low 11's, just add nitrous.

I suggest more research before you start spending your hard-earned money on what may not make any discernible difference.

I go overboard, since I enjoy working on the car myself, and tweaking it through testing and experimentation. Unless you really want to start spending time under the hood trouble-shooting issues, I would think twice before going all out on it.
Thanks I just want the best for the car. The best way to get the most HP. Yes it is a daily driver. Me working on cars. Lol. That's funny. I am not a mechanic by far. Barely know how to change oil.
 
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Old 12-11-2013 | 01:29 PM
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I am just trying to get the most HP I can out of the motor. I'm ordering stage 2 from NW, PSK, SB, SL55 fuel pump, intake manifold,Phenolic Spacers, retune. If you have any more suggestions please let me know.
 
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Old 12-11-2013 | 01:30 PM
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been there done that. stacked a code 3 on my renntech 178 pulley
 


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