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At least I know what I am talking about.

 

I dont think anyone said you didnt.

 

I hope you didn't mis understand me.. you get two thumbs up in my books.. There is the hardcore race group in here that feel anyone who gives up any available horsepower over spending $$ has just wasted anything they may have spent. And I'm not going to sit here and say "you gave up any HP increase by not going NeedsWings". Kinda like I've stated over my front lip/spoiler "I like it and I'm the one that counts where my car is concerned".

 

No way man, you are one of the only people who has even seen it for what it really is in this entire thread lol... 160$ prereq for a better sc pulley and SERIOUS gains. Needswings upgrade would be like a veeeeery last resort. Get that 10 extra hp approx... When there is nothing left to get HP from...

 

Those racer guys that need max HP are slacking...

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Encouraging, isn't it Max? With each passing year, our forum becomes warmer and warmer as our car become cheaper and cheaper. I saw a SRT-6 Vert on a sub-prime gravel car lot the other day... Willing to bet that car has 10W-30 in it.

Jigg has figured out that IATs don't affect the SRT-6, contrary to what our resident racers have learned over the years. He could have saved HDDP, Les, Rudy, 32krazy and so many other racers so much time (and money!!!)

I thought of a money saving tip -- Since the intake temps are so meaningless, simply bolt two filters onto each side of the Y-pipe. Then you can save an additional $50 on the extra tubing and put that towards gas. No sense spending $$$ on a meth kit for a precious few horses, especially since IAT's don't matter. I'm sure the supercharger would be nice and loud, too. Noise = power.

To help you save money while driving your premium GT coupe, one gentleman on here found oil filters on eBay for $8.50 (!!!) and this will save you ~$3 over the big corporate stores. Those savings will almost buy you half a quart of 0W-40 (you will need another 16 half-quarts though, feels bad man). Luckily, Mobil-1 decides to cut their greed a few times a year, and offers the oil on sale (although this sometimes means you'd be wise to buy in bulk -- some say that's a big no-no, as you never know what the future holds).

If you can figure out a system that allows you to use all of the extra horsepower but still be gentle on the rear tires (expensive!!!) then you will have struck gold.

Happy modding,

 

You sir, are an asshat. Very constructive post for a veteran forum **** with eleventy bajillion posts. I grow tired of this bickering and bantering over a ******* custom intake. Are you guys that much up on Rob's ****? Seriously. This is pathetic and sad. I feel like I'm in a circle jerk with the third reich over here.

 

Close, we're the 4th Reich.

Just trying to save you a buck or two, broseph.

 

We are the musical people that live beneath the flowers.

 

 

Take it easy man.. "If" you buy 10 filters at a time you can get them for 12 bucks each. I think he's on something.. er.. I mean on to something..
I actually find it humorous that they take a car that is not by any means made to be a drag racer, and throw multiple dollars at it to try to make it "extra" special.. but too cheap to move into the big boy racer bracket (10 second REAL racers) but want to rag on anyone that doesn't step up the "their" expectations.
Just remember when they show up at the track, the real races are getting a good giggle out of them.

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j...VIaIW0LSpPNM9w

Jo Jackson builds an 11 second Chevy Nova for $7500 .. Kinda makes you wonder what the race crowd here has been smoking...

 

And when you get comfy in the 10's, there will be a GT-R in the 9's giggling at your Chevy. And the list goes on...

Speaking of humor/bang-per-buck, if you can buy an 11-second car for $7,500... why are you in line to spend $3,500+ on a turbo kit for your Limited, and still be slower than my SRT? To be different?

I don't think there's a person on this forum that hits the track expecting to be the king. We win some, lose some. We drive a funky little car that's quicker than most, and it's perfectly suited for drag racing... it's a bracket-racer's DREAM. What separates it from the obnoxious Nova, is you can drive the Crossfire 30,000 miles a year, back and forth to work, through the Dragon, down the quarter-mile, and then take the wife out to dinner. All without changing tires, or kidneys.

Senseless to sell you on how awesome the car is, you're the guy that's eager to reinvest over 30% of its value back into it for a few more ponies. Now that's love. I'm genuinely excited to see the outcome, and dyno numbers.

 

I wonder if the OP realizes that I made my DCAI, all by myself, for $210. And it is an actual cold air intake. That cool-looking y-pipe? 2 90 degree stainless elbows, sawed and welded.
I wouldn't/couldn't buy NW's product either. Not because I'm against sheer Capitalism (oh, my, NO!), but because I just couldn't afford it either.

John, you may be an asshat, but at least you are neither misinformed or, worse, just plain WRONG like some others.

 

You will see an approximate 1% Dyno'd increase per 10 degrees you lower the IAT's going into the manifold...

With that being said lowering the ambient air by 20 degree's is not the same, as the supercharger heats the air to such a high degree that an intercooler is needed to cool it before it enters the intake manifold. Even if the air was 40 degrees lower at the filters, that isn't going to make the same difference after the supercharger and where it counts, which is at the intake manifold.. It's like shooting a cold cup of water through the atmosphere of the sun in order to cool jupiter off better. The sun is so ******* hot that the cold dissipates before it even hits jupiter and is only a very marginally lower temperature than if you were to throw lukewarm water at jupiter through the sun's atmosphere.

If you want cooler IAT's. Get a bigger heat exchanger, install a meth kit after the supercharger but before the intercooler (for temp sensor / ecu purposes) THAT will make a considerable difference.

But like I said. "it doesn't hurt to have the coldest possible air intake"... But I think you guys are too heavy set on the actual "location of the filters" and thinking that has more to do with power gains that it actually does...

Maybe after hours straight of racing at the track. It might pay off, because the engine is sooo hot that you can take fewer and shorter breaks in between runs... But I don't do that ****. So I don't care about that.

Plus, my devil horns setup, works... Amazingly and surprisingly well, and I am only improving upon it when my 2' 90 mandrel bent 2.5 ich pipes come in, which I will fabricate into some BEAST devil horns. Then, I will isolate the filters to only recieve air from that source.

You guys are hellbent on disqualifying my idea. No one ever said I was done. I'm doing my "own" **** here while saving as much money as possible in the process. You can naysay all you want but someday I'm gonna have dyno numbers and i will NEVER buy a needswings intake... But don't get me wrong. The needswings intake is the only part I know of that they make, that I think is insanely overprice gouged due to the lack of market/ cornering the market with the silicone Y coupler and lack of competition.

It's understandable for sure, from a business profit perspective. But I for one. Can get around that with very little performance loss... As far as more complicated and finely tuned upgrades go though, such as pulleys, oil catch can, tunes, exhaust, LSD... Yes. I will pay the price for those, not only because I can't do it myself but because They are so specialized and fairly priced....

Needswings is a great company. Not ragging on them fanboys... Calm down. I just refuse to jump on this particular bandwagon. Yall can believe what you want though about the actual IAT increases... I even have this idea where you could modify a snow plow into a huge air trap which forces it directly into 12 air filters all merged into one pipe, that way you get maximum super duper magnum cold air intake.

Like a boss. Let me know if you want me to draw it up for yas.

 

Man. What is your problem? This forum does not need this.

 

I agree, among others.

 

The guy condescended the crap out of me and completely took everything I said out of context, in an attempt to humiliate me and had absolutely nothing to do with the original post. Trolling. That was the ONLY reason I can come up with. Either he needs to reassure himself that he didn't waste his money by belittling my entire post with contextual mockeries or he is so far up Needswings butt that he did it just to gain some invisible brownie points.

Needswings makes mods for so many types of HIGH END cars. The little srt6 section is like their volunteer r&d section. I've debated and argued my point even with people arguing and ignoring points I have brought up that caused me to do this... It's so stupid. Why even say anything at all if you have nothing nice to say, like some teenage youtube comment on a lil wayne rap video...

Constructive posts at least. Seriously. I could easily throw a longer 2 foot 90 mandrel bent pipe in each side, giving myself front mounted intake filters, for 30$... Plus another 70$ for the condenser pipe relication kit from needswings...

But I live in utah...... Hot cold dry rain snow dusty desert weather changes 4 times a day at a whim. One drop of water inside my throttle body, that's all it would take for a complete motor sieze. Highly unlikely, but over time... It's more and more inevitable.

No thanks. Haven't paid the car off yet. Still only 40k miles on her. First car ever bought. Going the smart way.
But I already explained all of this earlier. I'm going a custom route with a cold "air box" coming from the front grill piped into the air box where the filters sit, that is separated from the engine compartment ambient air higher heat signature. Definately not to be discredited as "worse" or "better" than needswings either. I could be better than the single cai and that right there would squash this entire argument. I could even be worse. But one thing is for certain. As long as it's better than stock, it was worth it. The airflow restriction lifted alone is going to allow me to get a better sc pulley and see some SERIOUS gains... The sound of the SC wail iS ALSO ANOTHER AWESOME FEATURE! it looks better too...

But that's just what I wanted personally. I didn't say "REPLACEMENT UPGRADE TO NEEDSWINGS DUAL CAI" so stop approaching it as such.

I would have expected this sort of chain gang mutiny in a honda forum but here??? This isn't an srt6 RACING ONLY forum... Give me a gd break.

 

WOW! Did this thread take on a life of it's own or what? I wanted to get more information regarding the astronomy portion of the thread . . . "It's like shooting a cold cup of water through the atmosphere of the sun in order to cool jupiter off better. The sun is so ******* hot that the cold dissipates before it even hits pluto and is only a very marginally lower temperature than if yoi were to theow lukewarm water at pluto through the sun's atmosphere" . . . HUH?? . . . but things took off so fast from there that I had to keep reading just to try and keep up with the tread . . . LOL

 

Nah... Still the same dead horse, but if we beat it from the front, we will produce lower IAT's and be able to beat it with much fiercer power!

 

Whoops... I was originally going to say pluto but I figured jupiter was alot warmer so I went with that. I obviously missed changing all of my references to the "target for cooling", which was jupiter, so I can see the confusion. But then again, that was only an example. By no means do I expect it to scientifically 100% prove my hypothetical approximation of theory but with basic scientific knowledge and imagination, along with knowing how this engine even works, you can understand the point I was trying to convey.