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Old 03-15-2012 | 05:01 AM
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Originally Posted by tom2112
So, back to my size question:
Are the 265 or 275 or even 285s worth the extra cash?
Anyone try 285s?
Anyone try 275/30s rather than 35s? Shorter sidewall should offer better handling...
Wider is better, but personally, 275 would be the widest I'd go on a stock rim. If you're looking at the Michelins, the 30 or 35s are within 1/2" of OE diam. One is 1/2" taller and the other 1/2" shorter. If you're lowered any, I'd go with the 30s. The difference in handling between the two ratios is undetectable to most of us. But the 30's are $50 less per tire; what I would go for.
 
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Old 03-15-2012 | 06:10 AM
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Originally Posted by onehundred80
I want a Summer tire that runs quiet and stays quiet, and is a bit flexible on the sidewalls. I'm not after a speed record through the Dragon. But not sliding all over the place.

I had OEM AS Contis on the '04 and have Michelin Pilots Sports AS on the 6. The rear Contis lasted to 27k miles and the Michelin's 20k. I probably had been easier on the Contis than the previous owners on the Pilots.
Both sets of rears are or were about the same wear, down to the wear bars inside and maybe 1/16" over the bars on the outside. I'm not looking for much more than 20k on them as that's four/five years for me.
I've got 50,000 klms on my Michelin Pilot Sport A/S and no where near the wear bars! Still relatively quiet and grippy when wet. When the time comes, I'll be replacing with Michelin Pilot Sport A/S Plus on both cars
 
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Old 03-15-2012 | 08:25 AM
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Tom I have the super sports on the coupe and they are great. Cost less than the PS 2"s but with the same feel. I muck prefer them over the Hankooks I had on the car. You will remember I am on 19" 20" after market rims. I thing you would enjoy the super sports.
 
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Old 03-15-2012 | 09:58 AM
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Thanks guys! I think I'll order a set of Super Sports later today. I just have to decide which size to get.
 
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Old 03-15-2012 | 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by onehundred80
OK John, the Contis mentioned above or the Hankooks V12's? Big decision soon for me.
Sorry for the late response, Dave. As has been discussed, the Hankooks are marginally cheaper and are a decent tire for driving around. But if it's real driving you want to do, I would lean towards the Continental DW. Everyone loves their Hankooks when brand-new, but after 8-10,000 miles, they turn slippery. I've seen numerous guys that are struggling with the acceleration out of a corner with the V12's.

Continental DW is the factory shoe for several AMG cars. The Conti 5P is supposed to be even better, but there is a very limited range in sizes.

As much as I hate to, I'm running BF-Goodrich at the moment, for no other reason than I want a matched set. You may recall that I needed tires before the Dragon last year, and the Conti's were a week out. I had three days, and the BFG's were in stock.

I have no gripes on the traction -- they simply stick. Sidewall rigidity is amazing, and the cornering feel is EXTREMELY confident. But, they're 3-4 pounds heavier per corner than the competitor's tires, and noisy.

When it's time to remove these, I will be choosing from either the Continental DW or the Nitto Invo. They're within 50 points of each other on the treadwear rating, and both are relatively lightweight.
 
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Old 03-15-2012 | 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by JHM2K
Sorry for the late response, Dave. As has been discussed, the Hankooks are marginally cheaper and are a decent tire for driving around. But if it's real driving you want to do, I would lean towards the Continental DW. Everyone loves their Hankooks when brand-new, but after 8-10,000 miles, they turn slippery. I've seen numerous guys that are struggling with the acceleration out of a corner with the V12's.

Continental DW is the factory shoe for several AMG cars. The Conti 5P is supposed to be even better, but there is a very limited range in sizes.

As much as I hate to, I'm running BF-Goodrich at the moment, for no other reason than I want a matched set. You may recall that I needed tires before the Dragon last year, and the Conti's were a week out. I had three days, and the BFG's were in stock.

I have no gripes on the traction -- they simply stick. Sidewall rigidity is amazing, and the cornering feel is EXTREMELY confident. But, they're 3-4 pounds heavier per corner than the competitor's tires, and noisy.

When it's time to remove these, I will be choosing from either the Continental DW or the Nitto Invo. They're within 50 points of each other on the treadwear rating, and both are relatively lightweight.
Thanks a lot for the comments.
 
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Old 03-15-2012 | 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by onehundred80
OK John, the Contis mentioned above or the Hankooks V12's?
Big decision soon for me.
I have the Hankooks on my SRT-6 and cannot stand them. Traction control constantly kicks in.
 
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Old 03-15-2012 | 11:28 AM
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Great information in this thread! I will be looking to purchase tires and maybe wheels next year before the Fall Dragon.
 
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Old 03-15-2012 | 12:03 PM
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To try to give some input to two questions...

1. I have no experience with the Pilot Super Sport, but I have just recently put
the Continental ExtremeContact DW series tires on my car. Size on the front
is stock, and on the rear they are 285x30. Ride is great, low noise and tons
of grip.

2. I just swapped out a set of the Hankook Ventus V12's for the DW's. The Ventus
was a good tire, and cheaper, but it didn't have the grip I was looking for. But,
on the plus side, these lasted twice the time that my other tires (Conti Contact
AWS, Goodyear F1-GSD3, Hankook Ventus V12) have and were by far the most
inexpensive. Also, it appears that at the same 285x30, the Ventus was a little
bit wider.

Just my $0.02

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Old 03-15-2012 | 01:23 PM
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I ordered the Michelin Pilot Super Sports in 275/30-19 this morning. $313 each, plus shipping was $655. Who knows what mount and balance will be. I hope I don't have to replace my TP sensors.

And just to whine a little, I also had to replace the battery - that was $189. Ouch. I was expecting $100-$125.
 
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Old 03-15-2012 | 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by tom211
And just to whine a little, I also had to replace the battery - that was $189. Ouch. I was expecting $100-$125.
Don't worry; you have plenty of company with that sentiment. Great choice on the tires BTW.
 
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Old 03-16-2012 | 07:53 AM
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LOL, yeah. I should know better. Everything to do with this car costs more. It's a lot like my old Dodge Stealth - take what you think it should cost and multiply by 2 (sometimes more). I never thought I would pay over $300 for a tire either. In fact, I never thought I'd pay over $200 for a tire.

While I was waiting at Sears for the guy to test my old battery, I walked around the shop looking at tires they had on display. One tire was on-sale for $50 and even had a warranty. That made me laugh.
 
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Old 03-16-2012 | 07:58 AM
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I never thought I would pay over $300 for a tire either. In fact, I never thought I'd pay over $200 for a tire.
Amen to that. Makes you think about it long and hard when you're doing the burnout
 
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Old 03-16-2012 | 10:43 AM
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Amen to that. Makes you think about it long and hard when you're doing the burnout
Kinda like that old joke.. "if a bullet was $200... LOL. "
 
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Old 03-16-2012 | 11:55 AM
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But remember we have it pretty good for tire cost. My buddies Porsche and fathers Z06 tire cost make my house payment look tiny!
 
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Old 03-16-2012 | 12:13 PM
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Amen to that. Makes you think about it long and hard when you're doing the burnout
I try not to think about it. Burn-outs are way too much fun to be spoiled by economics.
 
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Old 03-16-2012 | 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Thirteendog
If I had another set of wheels I'd have the Super sports on them. They may cost more, but they'll be usable longer than the V12's. They're not comparable to the Conti's though since the Conti's are all season tires and the Michelins are Summer tires.
That is good to know. I am very disappointed in the life span of the V12's. They have not lasted any longer than the Advan AD07's I used to run. They were cheaper but were not as wide and had significantly less grip which only got worse as I put miles on them.

The V12's look good on paper and when people initially get them they rave but personally I will not purchase another set. The good is they are cheap. The bad is they are cheap.
 
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Old 03-16-2012 | 07:32 PM
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I'm not going to answer the OP question, only share what I know. The Yokohama Advan AD08 is good in the wet, quiet and sticks like you can't believe in the corners. 180 treadware. What's not good is if it gets real hot lots of the grip goes away. When it's 3/4 worn it's garbage. Hankook Ventus RS-3 I adore. Great new, great hot, great cold, great worn out. But unfortunately a bit loud on the street and 140 treadware. I know nothing about the Conti's or Super Sports personally. If you want a warm weather performance street tire and don't mind some road noise, you can't beat the RS-3. It's amazing. BTW, I didn't like the Michelin Pilot Sport Cups.

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Old 03-16-2012 | 08:08 PM
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I have no experience with the RS-3's, and only autocross at much lower speeds than what Les sees, but the Potenza R-11's I'm on now are pretty bad a$$. I have to work real hard to reach traction limits. Holding up well so far, not enough miles on them yet for comparison. Extreme Summer Tire Survey: Consumer Survey Results By Category
 
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Old 03-16-2012 | 08:28 PM
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I've got the fast wearing slip and slide on dry pavement Hankook V12. Really dangerous to drive on wet cold roads.Will be trying out Cooper Tires soon. Squirrel Crusher
 


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