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turbomar 04-24-2013 03:39 PM

Re: Paddle shifter install instructions completed
 
Glad to hear you got your paddles in Dave. I never bothered bending the cruise stick back but Latemodel21 makes it sound soo easy, I may as well do it. In my case, it didn't affect functionality but the cruise, when pulled back, does touch the paddle a bit

SparkieSRT6 04-24-2013 04:57 PM

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Similar to Latemeodel21, I made a jig using a 2x4 but with a routed channel down it to accept the stalk to fit into and help shape it when pressure is applied to it. Just havent used it yet.

latemodel21 04-24-2013 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by SparkieSRT6 (Post 736495)
Similar to Latemeodel21, I made a jig using a 2x4 but with a routed channel down it to accept the stalk to fit into and help shape it when pressure is applied to it. Just havent used it yet.


while the lever seemed to bend safely without the "routed channel" .... I like this improvement !

I have often used a (V) pulley to act as a mandrel when bending tubing ... this "routed channel" seems like a good way to go for ultimate safety (against compromising the tube while bending).

Nice addition Steve,
Chris

onehundred80 04-24-2013 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by latemodel21 (Post 736502)
while the lever seemed to bend safely without the "routed channel" .... I like this improvement !

I have often used a (V) pulley to act as a mandrel when bending tubing ... this "routed channel" seems like a good way to go for ultimate safety (against compromising the tube while bending).

Nice addition Steve,
Chris

I'm thinking of clamping the tube securely in a form so that the inner ends of the stalks see no load due to rocking. Just hold the part with the form in it steady and heat and bend.

Last thing I want is to ruin the Multifunction Switch and/or Cruise Switch at who knows what horrendous cost to replace.

Is it agreed that these are plastic coated aluminum?

latemodel21 04-25-2013 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by onehundred80 (Post 736514)
I'm thinking of clamping the tube securely in a form so that the inner ends of the stalks see no load due to rocking. Just hold the part with the form in it steady and heat and bend.

Last thing I want is to ruin the Multifunction Switch and/or Cruise Switch at who knows what horrendous cost to replace.

Is it agreed that these are plastic coated aluminum?

Relative to your plan to create a "form" (fixture) of sorts to keep the lever(s) from transferring force to the hidden associated components (attached to the levers yet inside the column) while you bend them ... I say you can never be TOO careful. So, while my experience doesn't lead me to believe the added precaution is required ... better safe than sorry : )

relative to your question of the construction of the levers .... I do know (with no small amount of certainty) that the VCS lever on the R170 SLK (not included on the crossfire I believe), which looks similar (and BENDS similarly) IS plastic coated aluminum. I do wish that someone who knows for sure what the turn signal and cruise levers are made of (who perhaps has a bent one from a wrecked car?) would share here. My Guess (having bent them all) is that they ALL are plastic coated aluminum.

Cheers,
Chris

Beaner 06-23-2013 06:07 PM

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From when I started this install (01-05-2013 post #91) I finished it today! Not a record time but it is now done and working.

Thank you!

SparkieSRT6 06-23-2013 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Beaner (Post 745529)
From when I started this install (01-05-2013 post #91) I finished it today! Not a record time but it is now done and working.

Thank you!

And.......what are your impressions of how they perform in that bad boy ?

onehundred80 06-23-2013 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Beaner (Post 745529)
From when I started this install (01-05-2013 post #91) I finished it today! Not a record time but it is now done and working.

Thank you!

\
Jeez, and I thought I was slow.
Turbomar could teach you (and me) a thing or two.

:p

DBLewis 10-20-2013 12:07 AM

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Anyone know if there is a legible copy of the schematic for this anywhere? I have one, but I just can't make out the componants.
I would like to try this myself. Should be fun!


-Dave

latemodel21 10-20-2013 01:24 AM

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Originally Posted by DBLewis (Post 763420)
Anyone know if there is a legible copy of the schematic for this anywhere? I have one, but I just can't make out the componants.
I would like to try this myself. Should be fun!


-Dave

Hi Dave,
The schematic to which you refer was out-dated before I even shipped the first kit (and the copy you have is most likely as legible as any other that was ever seen). The production version includes safe-guards that eliminate the possibility of creating implausible signals (namely, shifting through the forward gears while NOT in drive). Without the safeguards the implausible signals can and do disable the touch-shift functionality.

When you contacted me before, I was uncertain as to when more would be available ... but I am working on them now so please check in with me soon for updated info.

Cheers,
Chris

DBLewis 10-28-2013 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by latemodel21 (Post 763429)
Hi Dave,
The schematic to which you refer was out-dated before I even shipped the first kit (and the copy you have is most likely as legible as any other that was ever seen). The production version includes safe-guards that eliminate the possibility of creating implausible signals (namely, shifting through the forward gears while NOT in drive). Without the safeguards the implausible signals can and do disable the touch-shift functionality.

When you contacted me before, I was uncertain as to when more would be available ... but I am working on them now so please check in with me soon for updated info.

Cheers,
Chris



Will do! Looking forward to having a little more fun with the tune and other upgrades!

Da55id 01-24-2015 10:57 AM

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Has anyone in the Washington dc, Md, northern VA area done this conversion? I have the kit but am looking for a shop or someone to do this conversion for me in exchange for $$$.00

onehundred80 01-24-2015 11:16 AM

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I find that the multi-function switch and cruise levers hit the left hand paddle when pulled toward you and that if you really tried you could pull a lever and trap it behind the paddle while turning - not nice. Also the cruise resume (I think) position cannot be made because the lever will come back far enough to get to the resume switch position.

So I am going to bend the levers, some say they are painted aluminum and others plastic levers. Any tips in bending them? Taking the switches off the car would be best I guess, I just don't want to put undue pressure on the switch itself. Rudy used a heat gun and it worked.

bluecoupe 01-24-2015 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by onehundred80 (Post 825092)
I find that the multi-function switch and cruise levers hit the left hand paddle when pulled toward you and that if you really tried you could pull a lever and trap it behind the paddle while turning - not nice. Also the cruise resume (I think) position cannot be made because the lever will come back far enough to get to the resume switch position.

So I am going to bend the levers, some say they are painted aluminum and others plastic levers. Any tips in bending them? Taking the switches off the car would be best I guess, I just don't want to put undue pressure on the switch itself. Rudy used a heat gun and it worked.

Could it be just your phat fingers in the way? I find none of the problems you speak of Dave.............then again, I am a "hand model" :rolleyes:

onehundred80 01-24-2015 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by bluecoupe (Post 825100)
Could it be just your phat fingers in the way? I find none of the problems you speak of Dave.............then again, I am a "hand model" :rolleyes:

No fingers involved, if I pull either lever it hits the paddle when the wheel is dead ahead.

I have posted the picture showing your model hands on this forum for all to see if you remember.https://www.crossfireforum.org/forum...6-800x600-.jpg

SparkieSRT6 01-24-2015 03:50 PM

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Steve does have really attractive hands.....and supple too.....if you know what I mean ;)




When I discussed this with Rudy a couple years ago, he said if heating up the lever while on the car, he protected the dash and steering column with many layers of towels to insulate and protect them from heat damage.

Da55id 01-24-2015 06:16 PM

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Bump......

Originally Posted by Da55id (Post 825089)
Has anyone in the Washington dc, Md, northern VA area done this conversion? I have the kit but am looking for a shop or someone to do this conversion for me in exchange for $$$.00


latemodel21 01-24-2015 07:36 PM

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My favorite way to do this is to
1) move the wheel all the way out towards the driver and flip lever to "high beam"
2) wrap a towel around a piece of 2x4 and insert between lever and dash
3) adjust steering back towards dash as required to make Canadian substitute for 2x4 fit properly (proper fit has first inch of lever exiting steering column at 90° to column
4) Get a baseline by measureing from the tip of the multifuntion lever to parting line of upper and lower dash (below and left of the lest most heater vent)
5) push lever until it is 1/4" (6.35 canadian feet) closer to previously mentioned parting line.
6) check feel and adjust further as necessary.

Cheers,
Chris



Originally Posted by onehundred80 (Post 825092)
I find that the multi-function switch and cruise levers hit the left hand paddle when pulled toward you and that if you really tried you could pull a lever and trap it behind the paddle while turning - not nice. Also the cruise resume (I think) position cannot be made because the lever will come back far enough to get to the resume switch position.

So I am going to bend the levers, some say they are painted aluminum and others plastic levers. Any tips in bending them? Taking the switches off the car would be best I guess, I just don't want to put undue pressure on the switch itself. Rudy used a heat gun and it worked.


latemodel21 01-24-2015 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Da55id (Post 825089)
Has anyone in the Washington dc, Md, northern VA area done this conversion? I have the kit but am looking for a shop or someone to do this conversion for me in exchange for $$$.00

If the shop/installer you find has any questions I will make myself available to talk to them on the phone (no charge of course) and, if they are comfortable with all aspects except modifying the steering wheel and/or modifying the shifter, you can send either or both to me and I will do it for a fair price.

Or, if you choose to do it yourself (considering 32Krazy! was able to do it ... probably anyone can : ) ,I can help you over the phone and/or you can send the wheel and/or shifter to me.

Cheers,
Chris

Da55id 01-24-2015 08:11 PM

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Thanks - so, is there a great shop folks in the DC area trust to do something like this?

onehundred80 01-24-2015 10:33 PM

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Thanks I'll give it a try.

benji049 01-25-2015 09:42 AM

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Hello. How you made for the cables palette between the steering wheel and steering column. because the circular contactor only has 4 wire 2 for horn 2 and for the airbag. Good holidays Sony my american is very bad

latemodel21 01-25-2015 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by benji049 (Post 825175)
Hello. How you made for the cables palette between the steering wheel and steering column. because the circular contactor only has 4 wire 2 for horn 2 and for the airbag. Good holidays Sony my american is very bad

The kit does this using 2 modules. 1 to combine the Horn and paddle signals onto the horn signal line (in the steering wheel) and the second to decode this signals and drive the horn and shift functions (the second module also monitors the ETC so that paddle signals are only sent to the shifter while it is "Drive" ).

Cheers,
Chris

benji049 01-26-2015 01:45 AM

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Chris thank you. Or buy the module? Have you a web link? My steering wheel paddle already installed but they do not work.

Da55id 02-12-2015 09:21 PM

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RRT Performance Tuning and Maintenance just installed Latemodel21's paddle shifter kit into my SRT Roadster. They did a fabulous job and all I can say is THANKS Chris for designing this mod. It feels exactly like an OEM option, and the overall driving experience is much more immediate and makes me feel organically connected to the car. The combo of TCU tune and paddle shifters gives crisp shifts a whole new meaning. If you are in the DC area, RRT's info is:

703-661-4222
RRT :: Performance, Tuning & Maintenance

benji049 03-26-2015 05:34 AM

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I am looking for a receiver transmitter on the internet but I found none. Can you help me please. Thanks. Sorry m'y english is very bad

latemodel21 03-26-2015 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by benji049 (Post 831153)
I am looking for a receiver transmitter on the internet but I found none. Can you help me please. Thanks. Sorry m'y english is very bad

PM sent

Chris

SparkieSRT6 03-26-2015 08:49 PM

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Got to tell you that when I had my car up for sale a few weeks back, the guy that bought it (first to look at it actually) had already looked at three other SRT6's before mine...... but mine was the only one with the LM21 Paddle Shift kit. He was in awe. I have no doubt that the kit added not only to the value of my car but also it's marketability to help me make a quick sale at my full asking price. :D

meh03 05-03-2015 11:05 PM

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I finally finished the paddle shift install. I took it for a test drive before reinstalling the center consul. The paddle shifters work, but the manual shifting at the shifter is not working. What did I do wrong?

latemodel21 05-03-2015 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by meh03 (Post 835113)
I finally finished the paddle shift install. I took it for a test drive before reinstalling the center consul. The paddle shifters work, but the manual shifting at the shifter is not working. What did I do wrong?

Hi Mike,
you either damaged the conductor that slides across the the printed circuit board or left something out when you put it back together .

I don't have a picture of the conductor, but here is where it goes (see pic)


I will dig through my stuff and see if I have a better pic. and you can call me and I will help you get this straightened out.

Chris

meh03 05-03-2015 11:48 PM

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Great. I did get a little spot of solder on the corner of one of the gold areas. It was the one below your finger in the pic. It was on the corner only, not where the brighter gold pathways are. I tried to remove it and gently scrape it off as best as possible. I'll take it back out, send you some pics and give you a call in the next day or two. Hopefully there is some way to fix it.

Thanks for the quick response.

Mike

meh03 05-04-2015 12:29 AM

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Also, I never found or had to disconnect the key-lock-in cable. Am I missing something? I only had to disconnect the 5 wire harness and the square harness on the front of the shifter.

meh03 05-10-2015 04:41 PM

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In case it helps anyone else. My problem was my solder points were too high and stopping the finger plate from moving/connecting. $5 at a tv shop and all is working properly. Thanks to Latemodel for talking me thru it!

latemodel21 05-11-2015 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by meh03 (Post 835701)
In case it helps anyone else. My problem was my solder points were too high and stopping the finger plate from moving/connecting. $5 at a tv shop and all is working properly. Thanks to Latemodel for talking me thru it!

Happy to help. ... enjoy the paddles

Chris

turbomar 08-21-2015 12:01 AM

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question Chris,

I was thinking of doing the "horn always on" mod. This would mean the paddle shift module would always be powered on. I don't think this is desirable. Thoughts?

latemodel21 08-21-2015 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by turbomar (Post 845692)
question Chris,

I was thinking of doing the "horn always on" mod. This would mean the paddle shift module would always be powered on. I don't think this is desirable. Thoughts?

I will agree that I would not call it desirable (adding anything to the "dark current" never is) . However, I'm not sure that I would call this (having the paddle module powered up 24-7) prohibitively UN-desirealbe either.

Let me think about it a bit ... if having your horn available all the time seems important to you then I suppose this should be considered.

Cheers,
Chris

steps 11-02-2015 11:22 PM

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what a great Mod with out going back and reading all the post How do you all like it and are the kits still avaiable?

onehundred80 11-02-2015 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by steps (Post 851727)
what a great Mod with out going back and reading all the post How do you all like it and are the kits still avaiable?

I do not use it all the time, basically I just play around with li.
I still have to bend the stalks on the multi function and cruise switches as they get in the way and limit stalk movement.
I find it a nice option to have though.
Would I buy it again? - yes I would.

Da55id 11-03-2015 08:50 AM

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I love the immediacy and precise control of (especially) downshifting. I use it every time I drive. After this mod the car felt substantially complete and updated.

latemodel21 11-03-2015 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by steps (Post 851727)
what a great Mod with out going back and reading all the post How do you all like it and are the kits still avaiable?

yes and no on availability ....
none in stock ...
all installed kits (60 shipped) are still working (and being enjoyed it would seem : )

So,
it is likely that I will make more kits in the not too distant future

if you want to be notified when they become available, PM me your email address and I will add you to the list.

Cheers,
Chris


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