Crankshaft position sensor
Re: Crankshaft position sensor
Hmmm thats what i thought. Jerry from eurocharged said theres a sensor on the flywheel housing under the car and he called it the " crankshaft position sensor". He must be talking about another one. So whats the sensor thats on the flywheel housing called???
Re: Crankshaft position sensor
Originally Posted by Holycrap
So after installing the 181 pulley it seems as though i have damaged the sensor( i installed it via the pinning the flywheel method) and it will need to be replaced. My question is, where is this sensor exactly? And how hard is the install. Any how to's?
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Re: Crankshaft position sensor
Im sorry to have confused u guys but this is not what im looking for( i had a feeling this might happen but i posted just in case) im lookinh for a sensor thats on the fylwheel housing underneath the car. Supposedly i might have damaged it when i tried to pin the flywheel when i removed the crank pulley.
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Re: Crankshaft position sensor
Ok i got the code its p0335. I found the sensor. At first i was looking underneath the car since i never messed with anything in tye engine bay.How did i damage this sensor by pinning the flywheel?????? Im so freaking confused right now.
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Re: Crankshaft position sensor
Originally Posted by Holycrap
Ok i got the code its p0335. I found the sensor. At first i was looking underneath the car since i never messed with anything in tye engine bay.How did i damage this sensor by pinning the flywheel?????? Im so freaking confused right now.
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Re: Crankshaft position sensor
everything in front of the engine is fine. I did notice however that the 181 pulley is pretty big and only comes about 1/4 inch or less from touching the waterpump pulley. i can only imagine how huge the 185 is. Jerry said its common that the cps gets damaged when using the flywheel method. i have emailed him so he can tell me exactly how that happens.Sensor has just been ordered. i'll keep everyone posted.
Re: Crankshaft position sensor
Originally Posted by Holycrap
Pinned it with a flathead screwdriver as the Let instructions stated.
There is an actual tool that fits in both the holes that locks the flywheel, using a small screwdriver would make it rise to the top of the teeth and possibly make a burr and that would shave the sensor tip.
Do not fit the new sensor until you have addressed the burr if that's the case or you will ruin the new sensor.
Re: Crankshaft position sensor
This is the response i got from Jerry.
"The sensor sits about 2mm away from the flywheel. When you pull or
push on the flywheel, you cause it to either move in or out. When
this happens, it will touch the sensor at some point in the rotation."
so yea i must have moved the flywheel somehow. the flywheel looks,rotates and sounds fine from underneath the car. I looked at it again. i doubt i damaged anything from just pinning it but it is a possibilty and it can be very costly. i need to get underneath and really look at it while someone tries to crank it again. Jerry said to check for wobbles. i'll make sure it rotates true before i install the sensor and wreck that one as well.
"The sensor sits about 2mm away from the flywheel. When you pull or
push on the flywheel, you cause it to either move in or out. When
this happens, it will touch the sensor at some point in the rotation."
so yea i must have moved the flywheel somehow. the flywheel looks,rotates and sounds fine from underneath the car. I looked at it again. i doubt i damaged anything from just pinning it but it is a possibilty and it can be very costly. i need to get underneath and really look at it while someone tries to crank it again. Jerry said to check for wobbles. i'll make sure it rotates true before i install the sensor and wreck that one as well.
Re: Crankshaft position sensor
Originally Posted by Holycrap
This is the response i got from Jerry.
"The sensor sits about 2mm away from the flywheel. When you pull or
push on the flywheel, you cause it to either move in or out. When
this happens, it will touch the sensor at some point in the rotation."
so yea i must have moved the flywheel somehow. the flywheel looks,rotates and sounds fine from underneath the car. I looked at it again. i doubt i damaged anything from just pinning it but it is a possibilty and it can be very costly. i need to get underneath and really look at it while someone tries to crank it again. Jerry said to check for wobbles. i'll make sure it rotates true before i install the sensor and wreck that one as well.
"The sensor sits about 2mm away from the flywheel. When you pull or
push on the flywheel, you cause it to either move in or out. When
this happens, it will touch the sensor at some point in the rotation."
so yea i must have moved the flywheel somehow. the flywheel looks,rotates and sounds fine from underneath the car. I looked at it again. i doubt i damaged anything from just pinning it but it is a possibilty and it can be very costly. i need to get underneath and really look at it while someone tries to crank it again. Jerry said to check for wobbles. i'll make sure it rotates true before i install the sensor and wreck that one as well.
As I said earlier a burr would wipe out the sensor.
Edit
If the flywheel moved .2mm the engine (crankshaft) would be toast as well.
Last edited by onehundred80; 02-09-2011 at 09:45 PM.
Re: Crankshaft position sensor
Originally Posted by onehundred80
I think that 2mm (.080") away is way too much, I think that it is more likely in the region of .2mm (.008" if that), if your flywheel moved 2mm up and down you would here a rumbling noise because the engine would be ruined.
As I said earlier a burr would wipe out the sensor.
Edit
If the flywheel moved .2mm the engine (crankshaft) would be toast as well.
As I said earlier a burr would wipe out the sensor.
Edit
If the flywheel moved .2mm the engine (crankshaft) would be toast as well.
Re: Crankshaft position sensor
Originally Posted by SparkieSRT6
I can't fathom that pinning the flywheel with a scewdriver would make the flywheel flex enough to cause this.
The flywheel can only move up and down by the amount of clearance in the main bearings.
If you study the repair manual you see that a special tool is used, this locates in the threaded mounting holes of the starter and a section of the tool locates and locks into the flywheel teeth.
When the CPS is removed look for a scrape or gouge on the metal and plastic face, a mark would suggest that the flywheel touched the sensor and damage it.
I do not believe the coincidence that the CPS failed at the same time as your pulley change, the odds are really remote on that happening when you think about it.
6. Using Special Tool 9102 Flywheel Locking Tool (1), lock the flywheel by inserting the tool into the starter opening.
Starter teeth take a lot of abuse and get worn quite severely, a damaged starter gear can do a lot of damage on the flywheel teeth requiring a new flywheel. I am not saying that is the case here, but it can happen. I have seen the damage on a car I owned, fortunately the starter gear failed before the flywheel was completely ruined.
Last edited by onehundred80; 02-09-2011 at 11:59 PM.