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Old 04-17-2010 | 09:39 PM
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Originally Posted by 32krazy!
even if he does get a free diff what difference does it make? he is a least trying to get a part made that doesnt exist at this time. what are you doing to resolve this issue except bash him for trying? step up to the plate. ill pay for the shipping to cali and you can pay for the return of his parts to be speced.
look at the wavetrac or quaiffe prices. ranging from 800 to 1300 $ depending on the car. thats for a diff thats being produced. factor in this diff isnt made and they have to build it from scratch it 1100 isnt a bad price.
Krazy, I don't care if he gets a free diff out of it if he's doing the leg work and funding the start up costs and if you guys want to fund it for him, thats good by me too. I just call it like I see it.

Also, I remind you that I was the forum member that mailed out my spare diff to the last potential LSD provider.
 

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Old 04-17-2010 | 09:47 PM
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Originally Posted by BLACKSRT-6
Krazy, I don't care if he gets a free diff out of it if he's doing the leg work and funding the start up costs and if you guys want to fund it for him, thats good by me too. I just call it like I see it.
what you dont see is the cost of his dyno tuning , dr's, race costs and the rear he toasted already. none of this is free. he is a working stiff like the rest of us and 50 or 500 the dollars come with sweat. so either step up and help or sit on the sidelines and wait for those of us to do the work for you
if you had bothered to make even 1 fone call you would see if he gets 50 buyers for the diff they still arent giving out any free ones.
 
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Old 04-17-2010 | 09:56 PM
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Originally Posted by BLACKSRT-6
Means very little to me. I'm a Navy Officer with 28 years in the Silent Service, still on active duty. My time abroad has taught me to question everything I hear and most of what I see, rant some more on that.
I grew up in the military, and served in the military as well. I am a combat veteran, as I am sure you are having spent 28 years in the military. My upbringing and training has taught me many things, but questioning someones integrity without due cause is not one of them. If you are the type of officer that questions others integrity without warrant, then I am sure that you are highly respected amongst your peers and subordinates.
 
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Old 04-17-2010 | 10:04 PM
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im confused. you have 28 yrs in the navy but you list your age on your profile as 22? im just a trucker with the minimun yrs in service but something doesnt add up!
 
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Old 04-17-2010 | 10:04 PM
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I needed to get a sense of how many people are even interested before I waste my time/money and Wavetech's time trying to get this into production. As 32krazy mentioned, they previously discussed this at a company meeting and they were not interested. So unless I can find enough people, I'm SOL...

I wish I was getting one for free. But in reality, I'm just the guy that's going to send them a brand new unit in hopes to get a true LSD made for the masses. I also have to buy an axle to send them.

Bob, I appreciate your backing. However, I am enlisted... I 'wish' I made an officers pay.

I'll give them a call on Monday to see if I can send them my diff for them to make a better assesment and make sure I'll get my unit back in the same shape as I send it to them.

Let's keep this thread on topic guys!
 

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Old 04-17-2010 | 10:07 PM
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Originally Posted by bmorgan
I grew up in the military, and served in the military as well. I am a combat veteran, as I am sure you are having spent 28 years in the military. My upbringing and training has taught me many things, but questioning someones integrity without due cause is not one of them. If you are the type of officer that questions others integrity without warrant, then I am sure that you are highly respected amongst your peers and subordinates.
If your getting free parts out of working the deal then good on you. I was the forum member who mailed out my spare diff to the last potential LSD provider, but it did not work out. The Diff was to small and oddly shaped to take an LSD. Your integrity was never in question, I am the type of person who questions motives and preffers the truth, up front. If you felt your honor was inpinged. I apologize.

If you find a company that can provide a quality product at a quality price and provide the details associated with the cost and what is provided. I would be interested, and a highly potential buyer.
 

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Old 04-17-2010 | 10:11 PM
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allen my offer still stands. if i can help with the shipping costs let me know
 
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Old 04-17-2010 | 10:16 PM
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Originally Posted by 32krazy!
im confused. you have 28 yrs in the navy but you list your age on your profile as 22? im just a trucker with the minimun yrs in service but something doesnt add up!
Where is my age listed as 22? I never fill out that data, my son is 21 and he may occasinally use my account. If im 22, im a prematurly gray, getting slower all the time, young guy whom has spent far to much time in the service.
 

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Old 04-17-2010 | 10:16 PM
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I needed to get a sense of how many people are even interested before I waste my time/money and Wavetech's time trying to get this into production. As 32krazy mentioned, they previously discussed this at a company meeting and they were not interested. So unless I can find enough people, I'm SOL...

I wish I was getting one for free. But in reality, I'm just the guy that's going to send them a brand new unit in hopes to get a true LSD made for the masses. I also have to buy an axle to send them.

Bob, I appreciate your backing. However, I am enlisted... I 'wish' I made an officers pay.

I'll give them a call on Monday to see if I can send them my diff for them to make a better assesment and make sure I'll get my unit back in the same shape as I send it to them.

Let's keep this thread on topic guys!
Alan..... I did not know that you worked for a living. LOL Come to think of it, we have never discussed your rank. I guess the way you look and carry yourself, just led me to believe you were an officer. Ok, I will quit hijacking your thread now, and no more rants.

By the way.... You can count me in for 1, if you don't mind helping me install it.
 
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Old 04-17-2010 | 10:31 PM
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Originally Posted by BLACKSRT-6
Where is my age listed as 22? I never fill out that data, my son is 21 and he may occasinally use my account. If im 22, im a prematurly gray, getting slower all the time, young guy whom has spent far to much time in the service.
your public profile lists your age as 22
 
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Old 04-17-2010 | 10:58 PM
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Originally Posted by 32krazy!
your public profile lists your age as 22
You must be Krazy. Actually, Black SRT's profile does list that he is 22. I don't know that forum member. I am BLACKSRT-6 and my birth date is not listed.
 
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Old 04-17-2010 | 11:06 PM
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Originally Posted by BLACKSRT-6
You must be Krazy. Actually, Black SRT's profile does list that he is 22. I don't know that forum member. I am BLACKSRT-6 and my birth date is not listed.
if you click on your screen name it takes you to 05blackstr-6 profile. dont know why but it does. its late and i didnt see the difference in the names. my apologies.
time to get the thread back on track towards getting this build done. anyone who plans on racing their car needs to consider this because the prospect of a failed diff is an expensive and labor intensive fix
 
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Old 04-17-2010 | 11:51 PM
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Depends on the price and if different gears can be put in and programmed into the TCU. But I have interest for sure. Would these units come with a warranty of any type? What would be the cost of running just 10 or 15 units? Someone with deep wallets could even get 20+ units made and just sell them at a later date for a markup.

I put the 3.27 differential from an NA and transmission went into limp mode with a code stating something to the effect of 3rd gear ratio out of sych or something. So being able to adjust the TCU settings to accept different ratios is a must. I have not called aroundor searched if this is possible i'll talk with a dealer tech and see if they have the software to make these sort of changes when i get my car back.

If a better street strip ratio can be applied say 3.40 or 3.70 that would benefit any crossfire not just SRT on overall performance. Dont exclude non-srt crossifre im sure they would enjoy limited slip and gear options.

Send the unit out and let us know what they say. I could throw in 10 or so bucks twards shipping costs if needed as well.
 
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Old 04-18-2010 | 12:10 AM
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My Rant is ,,,I'm in for one.. just to let you all know a freind was working on a charger because it was in limp mode,,, he found that other mech had removed the 282 gear and installed a 372 (not sure of that numbe) being that he had worked on my car when i had installed the 327 in it ,,and got the limp mode,,, he had a diablo predator for the charger,, he changed the TCM and now the charger is driving around with a 362 rear gears,,,,jim
 
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Old 04-18-2010 | 12:24 AM
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My Rant is ,,,I'm in for one.. just to let you all know a freind was working on a charger because it was in limp mode,,, he found that other mech had removed the 282 gear and installed a 372 (not sure of that numbe) being that he had worked on my car when i had installed the 327 in it ,,and got the limp mode,,, he had a diablo predator for the charger,, he changed the TCM and now the charger is driving around with a 362 rear gears,,,,jim
I'm assuming that wouldn't work with the crossfire? i know we have similiar transmissions but would the diablo software work for us to adjust TCU? I'm sure it wouldn't recognize or syc with ours but who knows.
 
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Old 04-18-2010 | 12:44 AM
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I'm assuming that wouldn't work with the crossfire? i know we have similiar transmissions but would the diablo software work for us to adjust TCU? I'm sure it wouldn't recognize or syc with ours but who knows.
Similar transmission...but WAY different ECU/TCU from the Mopars.
 
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Old 04-18-2010 | 08:15 AM
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what no one here seems to get is this isnt a simple process. they have to digitize the stock diff, design the replacement in solidworks, put it into mastercam, design the tooling and jigs to hold eveything for the machining process and then theres initial testing and r&d, the person that does the testing is normally the person the requested the unit in the first place. they test lock up, a bunch of stuff. and for this normally they give that first person the unit for free.

i used to work in a machine shop that did things like this. mostly suspension pieces. its a very lengthy and time consuming process.
 
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Old 04-18-2010 | 08:42 AM
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Is this for the SRT only?
 
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Old 04-18-2010 | 08:55 AM
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Is this for the SRT only?
I would think not FP....not changing the gear at all....so, jump in if you are interested....I'm in.....and I can spare some change for shipping as well...but, keep us posted as to what they say once they have the diff...sounds like they aren't interested though...

I just had a thought, if they aren't interested. Just tell them in the future as these car's rearends fail, they could become an aftermarket supplier to all the XF community...someone has to supply parts...
 
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Old 04-18-2010 | 08:58 AM
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What would be the performance improvement with this rear end?
 


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