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Old 01-06-2010 | 12:44 AM
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Actually you won't be forcing any more air in than if the car was standing still. My background is in aviation and in order for ram air to be effective, you'll need to reach speeds well above 100 mph. Even then the ram air effect is negligble. There's very little increase in static pressure at low speeds. Therefore you won't see any 1/4 mile difference between your setup and a vehicle without ram air. Maybe if you're racing 1/2 mile distances 150 mph+ will you notice any difference.
Im no airplane expert, but at our dz the pilots always take off into the wind if possible, they say its better for the turbo engines(although i imagine it helps with lift as well).

All current 7 and 9 cell canopies are ram air design(vs the old school round parachutes). They fly about 25-30mph, unless swooping...then its 70+mph.

Also the pilot chute that is responsible for removing the canopy from the container is filled with air at 120mph, the average fall rate at time of deployment.

Im not sure if this is comparing apples to oranges but thought id share on what the power of forced air can do.
 
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Old 01-06-2010 | 01:32 AM
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BLKFIN did you do your 11 second pass with the SL55 intake or one of the others?

Thats a damn fast time with the limited mods you have! great work.
 
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Old 01-06-2010 | 09:42 AM
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BLKFIN did you do your 11 second pass with the SL55 intake or one of the others?

Thats a damn fast time with the limited mods you have! great work.
No, I did that pass with the single needswings and a 50/50 mix AEM meth kit that I had on for a short while. It was done in the hot texas heat and the meth did a great job! Not only did it shave 3ths off my best no meth time, it also picked up almost 4mph in the 1/4.

I had borrowed the kit from a buddy of mine and was looking at installing one full time using our stock windsheild wiper fluid res as the storage tank. I ended up selling an extra car I had and turned the SRT6 into my daily driver so I have not finished the project nor bought my on kit.
 
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Old 01-06-2010 | 11:38 AM
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No, I did that pass with the single needswings and a 50/50 mix AEM meth kit that I had on for a short while. It was done in the hot texas heat and the meth did a great job! Not only did it shave 3ths off my best no meth time, it also picked up almost 4mph in the 1/4.

I had borrowed the kit from a buddy of mine and was looking at installing one full time using our stock windsheild wiper fluid res as the storage tank. I ended up selling an extra car I had and turned the SRT6 into my daily driver so I have not finished the project nor bought my on kit.
11.93 on a single cai and c3 with a tune!!! theres hope for me yet!!!!
 
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Old 01-06-2010 | 12:48 PM
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32, dont forget the meth he was using... a big helper for us...
 
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Old 01-06-2010 | 01:13 PM
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32, dont forget the meth he was using... a big helper for us...
Mike is correct...my best non meth pass in this car with the same set up was 12.20@ 113. This was done in 50 degree weather. The meth pass was done in 90 degree weather. The cool part about meth...pardon the pun....is that the motor thinks its cold outside and the tires hook up like it is warm!!!
 
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Old 01-06-2010 | 01:32 PM
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Mike is correct...my best non meth pass in this car with the same set up was 12.20@ 113. This was done in 50 degree weather. The meth pass was done in 90 degree weather. The cool part about meth...pardon the pun....is that the motor thinks its cold outside and the tires hook up like it is warm!!!
So you were a "Tweeker"?
 
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Old 01-06-2010 | 01:34 PM
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So you were a "Tweeker"?
LOL...Like in the movie SPUN!!!!
 
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Old 01-06-2010 | 02:00 PM
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gotcha guys. im waiting abit to see the long term effects ... slow to jump! i just got another oem pulley, thinking tvt downsize might get another lb or 2 of boost! im at 12.7 before the tune, now tuned mickey t's on clk rims maybe that'll get me to 12.2 ?????
 
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Old 01-06-2010 | 05:51 PM
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I need to get my port n polish done and get me some of them light 16" MB wheels like Mopar and see if I can get to 11.8 without meth.... maybe the 'blue top' solenoids would help a little too...
 
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Old 01-06-2010 | 07:37 PM
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$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
thanks, guys, just reminding me what it is going to take to bring the coupe up to snuff with the roadster....lol....
 
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Old 01-07-2010 | 10:22 AM
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It is a little off topic…..but I just realized this morning that I have been driving around for god knows how long with the transmission in winter mode. I have been wondering why the car felt like a pig and got killed by cars that I should have beat or at least been a closer race too.
 
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Old 01-07-2010 | 11:48 AM
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It is a little off topic…..but I just realized this morning that I have been driving around for god knows how long with the transmission in winter mode. I have been wondering why the car felt like a pig and got killed by cars that I should have beat or at least been a closer race too.
Just made my nips hard!!....I need to check mine. Played around with an Challenger RT 2days before christmas. Didnt like how I was pulling on him.... he jumped a car before I knew he wanted to run(sneaky guy). After we got clear road he didnt wanna run. after taunting him for 5-6 miles out of my way, he just waved and smiled as if he thought I was gonna bully him. Well I did blow by him doing 100+ racing a 240sx. hehe...
 
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Old 01-08-2010 | 09:55 AM
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BLKFIN, checked my trans setting after your post. The roadster that I don't drive often was in the S setting.My coupe was in the winter mode. Like you I have no idea how long I have been driving like that.Sure was nice to get the power back. It is something I will always check now. Thanks for the post.
 
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Old 01-08-2010 | 03:24 PM
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That's a driving mode swtich

"S" = STUD
"W" = WUSSIE

I tried to drive my SRT6 in the "W" mode - but as soon as I get behind the wheel it automatically switches back into the "S" mode.

I guess there's an automatic sensor installed somewhere...
 
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Old 01-08-2010 | 03:27 PM
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That's a driving mode swtich

"S" = STUD
"W" = WUSSIE

I tried to drive my SRT6 in the "W" mode - but as soon as I get behind the wheel it automatically switches back into the "S" mode.

I guess there's an automatic sensor installed somewhere...
Nice...mine did not come with that feature. I even checked my window sticker.

Maybe it did....and I am the Wussie!!!! WTF!!!
 
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Old 01-08-2010 | 11:54 PM
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Nice...mine did not come with that feature. I even checked my window sticker.

Maybe it did....and I am the Wussie!!!! WTF!!!
How funny.

When I first purchased my Crossfire - a friend asked me what the "S" and "W" stood for - Ah... da... um....er...

I had to look it up in the owners manual...
 
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Old 01-17-2010 | 03:37 PM
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Check out what Eurocharged is selling. It is WAY to expensive, but ohhhh so sweet. Looks like a great repro of the renntech unit. This would look awesome with my current set up!! $1900 is too much for me to stomach~


Eurocharged





Renntech





 
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Old 01-17-2010 | 03:56 PM
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That thing is sex....
 
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Old 04-26-2010 | 11:16 AM
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Well I needed more than the the perfect intake this morning. I have coffee on Saturday morning with a group of guys who like to "play" a bit after the caffine wakes everyone up. I got my a$$ handed to me by a 2009 Cadillac CTS-V with a CAI and a Tune, then to make it worse, a C63 with a renntech tune was able to pull me too.

I guess I should not take it too bad...both these V8s are 500hp +++

Thought I would bump this thread instead of creating a new one. Went for coffee this Saturday with the boys and had the chance to make a few runs. First was with a buddy of mine with a CTSV stroker, we ran before the stoker engine swap and my car was in the W mode and before the dyno tune when Jerry wiped out all the adaptation my ECU had stored and picked up 20+ HP. He lost before the new motor….and after…he was not happy. This is not the same 2009 Caddy that beat me, but non the less a potent car. His first words after the run was “What did you do to that car”??

Then he wanted to run my buddies C63 with an intake and Renntech tune. The C63 walked away from the caddy as I had predicted but the owner of the caddy felt I walked away faster than the C63. I have ran the C63 before, and it was not pretty. We decided to make a few runs and was surprise at the result. Now the C63 won…but not by much. From a 30mph run, I would jump out in front and he would real me back in at 120+. At a 45mph run with me in 2nd…he would just take off and I could not catch up. He would put 1 or 2 car lengths and it would stay that way.

The moral of the story is after time, the ECU starts storing info that actually makes the car slower. Having the ECU retuned every couple years may be a good thing!
 


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