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Old 09-04-2009 | 03:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Rasim
at inmotion site written that they have to ways of tune one of them is as you told to send them my ecu and second is "We have two tuning methods to choose from. Make a refundable deposit and we will mail you an OBD Flashing Tool that you use with your laptop." is not this the same i wanted them to do?
I think you were misunderstood due to the language barrier. The flashing tool method is probably your only option if you don't want to send your ecu. Now since you have a C32 you have several options. Check the MB board for the best tune suited for your mods. In addition to InMotion, and Let there also is dyno-comp which uses renntech tunes, powerchip, kleeman, and evosport.

I'm biased with my InMotion tune. I have the smallest crank pulley 178, but currently the 2nd fastest SRT6 around. Now to be fair my tune was specifically created for my Needswings parts combo. For being a version one of this tune, it sure is a good one. I suggest that you get some feedback on the C32 section of MBworld. There may be an affiliated tuner in Germany that would make it more convenient. I'd even try Korea or Japan for additional options. It's going to be expensive any way you look at it.
 
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Old 09-04-2009 | 08:48 AM
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Originally Posted by cruzinquick
I think you were misunderstood due to the language barrier. The flashing tool method is probably your only option if you don't want to send your ecu. Now since you have a C32 you have several options. Check the MB board for the best tune suited for your mods. In addition to InMotion, and Let there also is dyno-comp which uses renntech tunes, powerchip, kleeman, and evosport.

I'm biased with my InMotion tune. I have the smallest crank pulley 178, but currently the 2nd fastest SRT6 around. Now to be fair my tune was specifically created for my Needswings parts combo. For being a version one of this tune, it sure is a good one. I suggest that you get some feedback on the C32 section of MBworld. There may be an affiliated tuner in Germany that would make it more convenient. I'd even try Korea or Japan for additional options. It's going to be expensive any way you look at it.

That is what i want i just do not want my car to stand, i can not stay with out my car, can you talk with them to provide me any solution to tune up my car ?
 
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Old 09-04-2009 | 11:27 AM
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That is what i want i just do not want my car to stand, i can not stay with out my car, can you talk with them to provide me any solution to tune up my car ?
It's a refundable $2000 deposit here in the states, not sure how much more he will charge for a deposit out of the country. Plus the shipping to you and back. He may not want to be without his flashing tool for an extended time period either. It may not be worth it to you. I'm sure Rob is reading your posts and he has more favor with InMotion than I do.

Again I suggest you try to search other tuners closer to you unless your prepared to put up a larger than normal deposit and extraordinary shipping costs. It may be cheaper to rent a car for a month or two. What is the quickest shipping available to you from your country to the US? I did a quick search and found nothing. That may be a problem for any tuner.
 
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Old 09-06-2009 | 05:03 AM
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so you think i need to remove the chip from my ecu and sent to inmotion?
 
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Old 09-06-2009 | 07:52 AM
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so you think i need to remove the chip from my ecu and sent to inmotion?
you will most likely need to either put down a deposit on the interface to flash the files in yourself or send the pcm in for the tune. your stock chip is not removable from the ecu so you would need to send the entire ecu.
 
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Old 09-07-2009 | 12:45 AM
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you will most likely need to either put down a deposit on the interface to flash the files in yourself or send the pcm in for the tune. your stock chip is not removable from the ecu so you would need to send the entire ecu.
it is easy to solder it out from ecu. we did it many times
 
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Old 09-09-2009 | 08:38 AM
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Boys, how can I check my c32 hp if there are big, up to 40 hp, difference between dyno testing machines such as dyno mustang and dyno jet, I thought every dyno shows the same power for the same car, let put it this way, you have stock c32 with 349 hp -18% =286 RWhp but you never try it on dyno cause it is stock and according MB manual you know your car has 349 hp -18% =286 RWhp , then install pulley and make tune, put your car on Mustang dyno and you get 283 RW HP it BAD L , I think I need to know which model of dyno, amg checks their 349 hp on c32 by. And try dyno my car on an exactly the same model of dyno machine or find that dyno which I know procedural error relatively the dyno wich shows 349 hp -18%=286 RW HP, means talking about the dyno that AMG use for definition C32 HP power.

 
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Old 09-09-2009 | 05:49 PM
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you need to dyno your car in stock form on the dyno of your choice. the key is to use the same dyno after you mod the car and try to replicate the weather conditions as best as possible
 
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Old 09-10-2009 | 12:46 AM
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thanks, that it is what i was afraid be cause i already have instaled pulley kit that cost me 100$ ) i have my friend stock c 32 i will try to compair with it
 
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Old 09-10-2009 | 01:01 AM
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it is easy to solder it out from ecu. we did it many times
im guessing he doesnt want to touch the chip by itself for fear of a probe being bumped and him be blamed on a bad tune would be my guess. i think its for everyones protection that the chip doesnt get removed.
 
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Old 09-10-2009 | 02:53 AM
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Boys, how can I check my c32 hp if there are big, up to 40 hp, difference between dyno testing machines such as dyno mustang and dyno jet, I thought every dyno shows the same power for the same car, let put it this way, you have stock c32 with 349 hp -18% =286 RWhp but you never try it on dyno cause it is stock and according MB manual you know your car has 349 hp -18% =286 RWhp , then install pulley and make tune, put your car on Mustang dyno and you get 283 RW HP it BAD L , I think I need to know which model of dyno, amg checks their 349 hp on c32 by. And try dyno my car on an exactly the same model of dyno machine or find that dyno which I know procedural error relatively the dyno wich shows 349 hp -18%=286 RW HP, means talking about the dyno that AMG use for definition C32 HP power.

AMG does not use a "normal Dyno" for definition of C32 HP. The engines are removed from the chassis, without transmission etc. and put on a special test stand "Motor brake", to measure the accurate power at the crank.
 
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Old 09-10-2009 | 07:48 AM
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thanks, that it is what i was afraid be cause i already have instaled pulley kit that cost me 100$ ) i have my friend stock c 32 i will try to compair with it
you really cant compare your mods to someone elses stock car. just dyno your car and go from that point forward.

you also have to remember temps humidity the type of dyno all affect the numbers you will see. my dyno was higher than most in stock form according to the forums and it took 5 passes to get a solid dyno sheet. the ecu on the amg motor doesnt really care for dyno runs. it takes a dedicated tech to figure were to start the run and were to end it due to ecu shutdown or downshifting . the ecu senses the rear wheels moving and the fronts not and it tries to fix it. there isnt a dyno mode on my slk32 but i think you may have one
 

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