ok im having problems getting my c3 pulley on. i hope jake or someone with a c3 can answer this question.
i have 3 oem shims and 2 shims provided by jake with the c3. the total thickness of the 5 shims are 1.60 mm the depth of the oem pulley is 25.02 and the depth of the c3 is 25.82 mm respectfulley . that is a difference of .80 mm just to get the c3 level were the oem was. then add .20mm to .30 mm as instructed in the c3 directions im looking at a total of .100mm to .110 mm to space it properly!
with the 5 shims i already have i need to add another .60 mm to .70 mm to c get this right. thats approx 7 to 10 shims! that sounds excessive to me. what am i doing wrong?
the first foto is oem pulley and 2nd foto is c3 measuered from the inside shoulder to the top

 

You only use 1 - 3 shims depending on your spacing. It needs to be as close as possible without rubbing. You could either use code3's or stock or a combination of the two.

 

i dont think im explaining it correctly steve. i have 5 shims in place with a thickness of 1.60 mm and im rubbing the pulley on the s/c clutch. with the measurements i have taken i need another .100 mm of shims to space it properly for a total of approx 10 shims. way excessive.

 

if anybody has brandons fone number please pm it to me
nevermind i found it

 

Something is not correct if you already used that many. Good luck as I don't know what else it could be.

 

I have the last generation aluminum Code 3. It used no shims at all. If I remember correctly the installed clearance on the stock pulley was 45 mm to the clutch. My Code 3 had varying clearance when new. 25 mm at the tightest point and 47 mm at the widest. I was told it would wear itself flat. I measured from the bearing like you but can't remember exactly what I found but it was not even from one side to another. Sorry quality control. But the sucker works flawlessly and I love it. Don't try to make the numbers match. They wont. Put it on, measure the clearance to the clutch for posterity, watch for signs of the belt slipping (mine doesn't) and fry the tires. Since you have shims, I'm pretty sure 20 mm is the recommended clearance between the pulley and clutch in the install instructions from Code 3. You might check the website to be sure.

Les

 

thats the issue im having. most that have the c3 use none to 1 or 2 shims. with 5 shims in measuring 1.60 mm thickness the pulley is in full contact with the s/c clutch. no clearance. brandon is sending me some new shims but i seem to need more clearance than any other c3 out there. from oem there is .80 difference from the edge of the bearing
i really dont want a crank pulley. i avoided using c3 for a new pulley due to so many negative posts by members. getting it from a reputable shop used seemed like the best of both worlds. not so sure now. and to top it off my oem shows definate signs of wear from the bearing so putting it back isnt gonna happen.
the c3 instructions also call for .20 to .30 mm clearance i believe most confuse this with 20 to 30 mm major difference

 

OOhh. Did you tap it with a brass hammer? It sounds like it's not seated properly. (well I hope thats all it is.) The grooved Code 3 is the original version. I can't imagine it needing so many shims unless you somehow got the worst Code 3 pulley on the planet. Mine was a huge disappointment with the dial caliper and feeler gauge, but works great. Good luck getting to the bottom of the problem.

Les

 

no need to tap the pulley. it slides rite on . i was told i was sent the best of 4 pulleys. i really dont know what im going to do at this point. take a day and see what brandon sends me.

 

What are the negative comments about the code3 pulley? It is a great piece.

 

Depending on when the pulley was made, I have seen a huge variance of shim thickness needed from the 5 C3 pulleys I have installed. When I got my own pulley from Brandon, it came with 3 more stock thickness shims and 2 thick shims. I had to use a total of .80 mm of shims and had no problems for the few hundred miles I used it till I went 181mm.

 

not negative about the pulley but about the company that produces them. more than a few issues on mbworld. i chose the c3 because i believe it to be the best upgrade for my needs.

 

that makes me feel a bit better. im going to try to call brandon mon and see what i can get in the form of shims to make this work. more than willing to return any unused shims, but i really want to try the c3 before tearing into my stock pulley. im sure you are aware i got my c3 from jake so im confident its in good shape. i cant find any inconsistincies in the measurements of the pulley with the exception of the shims needed to get proper spacing

 

Yeah, I know Jake sent out a few C3P's.... if you cant get a hold of Brandon, Im sure I can find some thicker shims somewhere around the shop. I knew we had some from the C3 mid size pulleys.

 

i sent you a pm to your work addy. i found the thread you had posted about parts. right after i ordered 2 new idler and tensioner pullies!!!

hopefully brandon will answer his fone tommorrow

 

bummer! fone disconnected. can anyone pm me brandon at c3 current fone number?

 

just a quick update for jake and anyone else interested. i finally got in contact with brandon and found out the spacers for the pulley are rear differential spacers. so i went to a couple shops to get some shims and had no luck! most shims were 29 mm id and the s/c shaft needs 32 mm id. so brandon sent me 2 shims and a new bearing for my oem to keep as a spare.
short story long my pulley is on!!! i needed 1.1 mm worth of shims to get .40mm clearance from the clutch. i would like a little closer spacing but any closer touches. needless to say im super impressed! ive burned the tires launching now sideways thru 2 gears! torque monster is an understatement.
thanx to all who gave great advice. thanx to jake for cutting me a great deal and putting me in a new mod level!. lets go to the dragway in oct!

 

Now you know why people keep liking the Code3. Once you get the quality control issues solved it makes you a giddy, can't stop smiling fool, that is until you start wanting traction. I'm glad you got things squared away and working.

Les

 

i really cant imagine this beast with a needswings dual cai! if it could breathe better with this knid of torque im going to have to get a standing order for tires!!

 

Glad to see you got it working.
I've gotta get my Code 3 repaired on of these days so I can use it again.
Gotta have that POWER!