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Old 08-12-2009 | 06:14 PM
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between a c3 pulley or a dual cai which would you choose? i cant do both at this time but could manage one.
the eurocharged dual cai for the c32 looks very appealling to me and priced close to what the c3 would be. not looking for a crank pulley at this time so lets leave the power diff of the crank and the c3 to another day.
does anybody use the euro dual cai? i was going to build my own but the cost of parts and having someone tig weld it isnt much diff than the euro product. its exactly what im looking for but worry about radiator blockage as i already have the tighed woody.
any input would be appreciated
 
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Old 08-12-2009 | 06:35 PM
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I would go with an intake before a pulley.
 
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Old 08-12-2009 | 06:38 PM
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Originally Posted by BlUEMDsrt6
I would go with an intake before a pulley.
agreed even more since if money is remotely tight then you'll much less likely to have any problems from the intake
 
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Old 08-12-2009 | 06:54 PM
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why is a great and awesome REAL AMG owner asking a lowly bunch of pretend srt6 wannabe AMG owners such a question, are you slumming today? I would think you real amg owners could afford to just buy the entire company that makes the performance products so they would be at your disposal anytime you needed something or had a question.


Seriously though, i would get an intake first. Get your basic mods first then get a pulley unless you found a great deal on a pulley you can not pass up.
 
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Old 08-12-2009 | 08:50 PM
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Originally Posted by mrphotoman
why is a great and awesome REAL AMG owner asking a lowly bunch of pretend srt6 wannabe AMG owners such a question, are you slumming today? I would think you real amg owners could afford to just buy the entire company that makes the performance products so they would be at your disposal anytime you needed something or had a question.


Seriously though, i would get an intake first. Get your basic mods first then get a pulley unless you found a great deal on a pulley you can not pass up.
oh my ears are burning their burning!!! srt-6 owners race the crap out of these cars!!!! so i pose the question to the pros. seriously if you want to know about performance mods to this engine this forum is the premier place to ask!
as for buying the company im one of those rare types that pays cash for everything but my house. i own no credit cards and sold my harley to buy the benz. so its save and pick and choose the parts i need.
and for those that think im snobbsh i love the digs! its all great fun
 

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Old 08-12-2009 | 09:29 PM
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id get the intake as well
 
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Old 08-12-2009 | 09:40 PM
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i dont see a dual intake on eurochargered websites? if its the same price as the c3 pulley it must be cheaper than the needswings. where is the info on this?
 
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Old 08-12-2009 | 09:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Voyager
i dont see a dual intake on eurochargered websites? if its the same price as the c3 pulley it must be cheaper than the needswings. where is the info on this?
http://www.eurocharged.com/index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=flypag e_new.tpl&product_id=76&category_id=44&option=com_ virtuemart&Itemid=99
 
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Old 08-12-2009 | 10:27 PM
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you can make a cai for under $200 using a spectre cai kit from autozone.

then you may be able to afford both the intake and the pulley.
 
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Old 08-12-2009 | 11:03 PM
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Originally Posted by 32krazy!
oh my ears are burning their burning!!! srt-6 owners race the crap out of these cars!!!! so i pose the question to the pros. seriously if you want to know about performance mods to this engine this forum is the premier place to ask!
as for buying the company im one of those rare types that pays cash for everything but my house. i own no credit cards and sold my harley to buy the benz. so its save and pick and choose the parts i need.
and for those that think im snobbsh i love the digs! its all great fun
Re: Mrphotomans reply to your reasonable question; why would you ever think we believe you are snobbish, as we all own cars off the same assembly line. Certainly the dual intake is the answer to your question. There is no reason to think that responses to your questions would be personal "digs" if you are sincere. Re; credit card purchasses, if you get some good ones and pay them off monthly you may gain up to a $1000 credits per yr., and this has helped me pay off the mortgage and get a great deal on an SRT-6 while allowing me to keep my Harleys and increase my gun collection. You seem to be going in the right direction and hope you keep learning
 
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Old 08-13-2009 | 12:02 AM
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Almost sounds like SRT6 envy. Here's an idea. Why not put a chrome SRT6 badge on the left rear, or maybe a satin black SRT6 badge. LMAO

Originally Posted by 32krazy!
oh my ears are burning their burning!!! srt-6 owners race the crap out of these cars!!!! so i pose the question to the pros. seriously if you want to know about performance mods to this engine this forum is the premier place to ask!
as for buying the company im one of those rare types that pays cash for everything but my house. i own no credit cards and sold my harley to buy the benz. so its save and pick and choose the parts i need.
and for those that think im snobbsh i love the digs! its all great fun
 
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Old 08-13-2009 | 12:46 AM
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Respectfully, I disagree. I have done most all of the available mods. The C3 pulley will give you a much bigger kick in the seat than a CAI by itself. I had the LET CAI, too (currently running NeedsWIngs dual CAI, manis and LET 185 pulley). To be fair, though, you should do the C3 pulley with their intake mod at the same time. The low end power increase is remarkable. After that, when the $ is available, do an ECU tune. My 2 cents.
 
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Old 08-13-2009 | 01:03 AM
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Originally Posted by ckovach
Respectfully, I disagree. I have done most all of the available mods. The C3 pulley will give you a much bigger kick in the seat than a CAI by itself. I had the LET CAI, too (currently running NeedsWIngs dual CAI, manis and LET 185 pulley). To be fair, though, you should do the C3 pulley with their intake mod at the same time. The low end power increase is remarkable. After that, when the $ is available, do an ECU tune. My 2 cents.
I had the opportunity to go "heads up" with the C3 pulley and intake - on the very same "test" Dyno they used to claim their numbers and on the road...

"Smoked em'"

Just cuz you spend more $$.... - doesn't mean you get more performance....

Spend wisely my friends...

Results are posted on the forum for those that want to know...
 

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Old 08-13-2009 | 03:21 AM
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If you have a SLK then you don't want the C32 intakes. They are designed different because of the restrictions out front. Get the single from NW that is designed for the slk. That's all the power you need for now, and a dyno won't show the NW intakes true performance because there is no air being forced through as if you were driving with real air coming at you. Just search youtube for the crazy video where they use a leaf blower on the intake while on a dyno and gain crazy hp.
 
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Old 08-13-2009 | 07:55 AM
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CAI first, then pulley...I run the code 3 pulley because, until Woody and Rob at Needswings, came out with their new pulley set-up, I didn't trust the 185 for reliability. Now that we have some real engineering behind it, I will switch to the 185 in the future w/ Rob and Woody's kit. I think the battle between C3 and 185 could go on and on...having testing at US 41 against those running them...real racing, I can stay with most, and the one's I can't are running drag radials...choose by reading and learning. C3 was having problems with some of their pulleys as well. I got a good one, no problems at all. I think the 185 is the better set up over all, and Needswings new kit is a future purchase for sure....Good luck....
 
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Old 08-13-2009 | 11:06 AM
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It depends. I'd go with the dual intake as well, the options for intakes are limited and provide similar results, where as with pulley it all depends on how much power you want. If you go with a code3, and decide you want more power you have to buy a whole other kit (178, 185, 181, C3 midsize, etc.)
However if you know you want a code3 and that's all you ever want, then go with that now, it will give you more noticeable gains.

I wouldn't go with the intake with the filters inside the engine bay, the gains will be minimal. you're just going to be sucking in hot air. (Needswings, svo, 240, and I think TVT have the best solutions, although most of those are single intakes)
-Steve
 
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Old 08-13-2009 | 02:47 PM
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I did a Spectre single CAI, then got a Code# pulley... ran for a bit then installed Belt wrap along with Dual Spectre CAI. The Spectre is nice because you can change configurations upon whim, and you can piece it together as funds permit. Not sure how comparable to Needswing or SVO or others but works for me and sounds great, for % of cost.
 
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Old 08-13-2009 | 03:01 PM
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that spectre is sure good lookin' piece...but, I'm going with Rob's...just because...no real difference I don't imagine...other than I like that bling...LOL
 
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Old 08-13-2009 | 05:50 PM
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wow ! so many replies. the consensus seems to be a cai. the c32 cai from eurocharged is almost identical to the needswings just 250$ cheaper. as fro the crank pullies i dont see me beating my ride harder than a c3 will give me. just to much investment to chance it. i fulley understand besides the 178 the bigger crank pullies are more powerful then the c3. it is just the c3 is the least likely to fail and no long term issues with the other pullies
for the guys who dont understand the digs and such theres a thread on here that will explain it all. lets call it sibling rivalry!!
i guess im just going to have to price it out and see. so far the dual cai is the highest dollar but doable.
ill let all my fans know how it goes!

srt-six how about some jeep logos with the srt-4 badging!

i had also sent many emails to svo regarding a dual cai he was building. communication stopped and i never heard from him again about the dual cai. he was going to price it ariound 350$!

tomygun i have to respectfully disagree. credit cards and debt are what put this country in the place its in now and a socialist in the oval office. if i cant pay cash i dont buy it. its a simple rule to live by and i will never worry about losing all i have becuase i cant pay the payments.
gramma benz you let out my secret!! now everyone will want one and ill be left out in the cold!!
 

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Old 08-13-2009 | 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by 32krazy!
...the consensus seems to be a cai. the c32 cai from eurocharged is almost identical to the needswings just 250$ cheaper...
Just remember the Eurocharged Dual uses the stock Y up by the throttle boyd which is more restrictive than just a 90 bend. I will say though to go with what you can afford. One benefit that really comes to mind with the NW CAI is if you decide later on after you get your pulley, that you still need more power, you can just do the NW Dual upgrade and get some more power out of it vs buying an entirely new intake setup. Either way you go though, you'll feel it.
 


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