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Old 08-03-2009 | 08:42 AM
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I think adding the fixed "AMG" logos are a bit much and I wouldn't do it......However I did want to pay respects to what the car was made from so I went with the chrome AMG license plate frames.
 
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Old 08-03-2009 | 08:50 AM
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actually i had gone to bed. all the posts merely confirmed what i said in the beginning. putting a z06 engine in a camaro body doesnt make it a corvette. just because the srt-6 uses all the LEFTOVER parts from the slk32 doesnt make it an amg. say what you want snobbish pretentiuous whatever. and the other forums when someone puts amg badging on a non amg car its called posing!
as for the srt-6 being "marginally" faster than the slk32 i wouldnt know i have never raced one. but by the stats from car and driver the srt-6 is 330 hp and the slk32 is 349 hp. so by stats alone the 32 is faster.
as for wiki are you serious? you can put whatever you choose on that website true or not. it cant be taken seriously.

bottom line is the amg badging is reserved for mercedes and mercedes alone. say what you want blood brother cousin black sheep of the family it doesnt matter. there is only the slk32 with this driveline setup and styling that is the amg version
this was never meant to belittle the srt-6 or make my slk32 stand above . it was a question asked and the battle of words began. if you take all the parts used on your srt-6 and put them on a slk320 you still wont have an amg slk and so i say do what you want with your car. you only have to please yourself. as for me ill keep my badging were it belongs
 
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Old 08-03-2009 | 08:51 AM
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A bit more and I am finished.
Note that the SRT6 is not a Chrysler vehicle with an AMG engine dropped in. Basically the only thing 'Chrysler' about it is the body and wheels.

Seriously, stat racing? Check with the SRT engineers (as we have done on srtforums.com) and they will tell you that the hp/tq is the same, but they were forced to publicize lesser #s than the MB counterparts, which is fine.

But none of this matters. People are going to do what they want. Just like some guys put SRT6 badges on N/A Crossfires.
Such is life.

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First Drive: 2005 Chrysler Crossfire SRT-6

So when the SRT group wanted to leave its mark on a Chrysler-branded vehicle, it turned to the AMG performance division of Mercedes-Benz. AMG has a reputation for creating Benzes that go like hell on the open road but go down easy in freeway gridlock and while motoring to the country club. You'll remember that Chrysler borrowed plenty of SLK-Class mechanicals to create the Crossfire coupe and roadster. With its elegant body and 215-horsepower V6, the Crossfire is a fine car with or without a top, but drop in an AMG drivetrain and you'd have something truly special.
So that's what SRT did. The group commissioned the use of the supercharged 3.2-liter V6 and sport-oriented five-speed automatic transmission found in the 2002-2004 SLK32 AMG.

Next, engineers went to work on the chassis. They increased the spring rates anywhere from 40 to 50 percent and tightened up the dampers 40 percent front and rear. The car's suspension tuning is even firmer than that of the SLK32, according to the SRT staff. Where wheels and tires are concerned, Chrysler couldn't really go much bigger, so the SRT-6 wears the same 225/40ZR18 and 255/35ZR19 meats as the regular Crossfire. The SRT team did, however, put on a lighter set of alloy wheels (18 inches in front, 19s in back) with a distinctive 15-spoke design.

We've never had any complaints about the standard Crossfire's brakes (which consistently allow the coupe to stop from 60 mph in under 120 feet), but Chrysler redoubled its efforts on the more powerful SRT-6, fitting the car with larger front rotors and double-piston calipers front and rear. Performance targets included a 60-to-0-mph stopping distance of no longer than 115 feet, as well as a sub-16-second time in what the SRT team calls its signature test — accelerate to 100 mph and then, without pausing, haul the car down to a stop.

Turn your thoughts to the SRT-6's performance credentials, though, and the price is easier to justify. For $45-50 grand, you're getting virtually the same package of power and handling as a 2004 SLK32 that stickers at $56,000 and is sold by dealers who aren't willing to offer much in the way of discounts. If you can live with so-so interior materials and ergonomics, the Crossfire SRT-6 could shape up to be quite a bargain.

Follow-Up Test: 2005 Chrysler Crossfire SRT-6

If you want to see where this car is definitely not lacking, just pop the hood. Under that futuristic engine shroud is the pride of the SRT-6 — a 330-horsepower supercharged V6 that comes this way courtesy of AMG.

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Chrysler Crossfire SRT-6 Preview & Specifications - Automobile Magazine

The SRT-6 shares an awful lot in common with the outgoing SLK32 AMG, other than just the engine and gearbox. The dual control arm front and multilink rear suspension are virtually identical, although they are tuned in this application, with firmer damping and much stiffer spring rates. (They have gone up from 303 pounds per inch front and 337 pounds per inch rear to 451 lb/in and 480 lb/in respectively on the coupe.) The brakes, too, have come in for attention, with vented discs all around (the stock car has solid rear rotors), bigger front discs, and dual piston calipers in place of single-piston items.

The upshot is a car with serious performance credentials. Chrysler claims 0 to 60 mph in about 5 seconds, 0-100-0 mph in less than 16 seconds, and 60 to 0 mph braking in about 115 feet.

2005 Chrysler Crossfire SRT-6 | 2005 Chrysler Crossfire Review at Automotive.com

Underhood, the 215-horsepower Mercedes 3.2-liter V-6 in the stock Crossfire is replaced by an AMG-built, 330-horsepower, supercharged version, which also makes 310 pound-feet of torque. The only available transmission is an M-B five-speed automatic that has TouchShift-oops, sorry, AutoStick-manual operation. The hand-me-down multilink rear and control-arm front suspensions have been heavily revised, with springs and dampers that are some 40 percent stiffer than the regular Crossfire's. The brakes, too, have been uprated, with twin-piston calipers replacing single-piston items; larger, 13.0-inch-diameter vented front discs; and vented rotors at the rear. The ESP skid-control system has been recalibrated to be less intrusive, although there is always an electronic safety net. The larger-diameter wheels are shod with aggressive Michelin Pilot Sport 225/40ZR-18 front and 255/35ZR-19 rear tires.

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Chrysler Crossfire SRT-6 - Auto Shows - Car and Driver

When is one man’s Chrysler another man’s Mercedes? When that Chrysler actually is a Mercedes. Based heavily on the SLK32 AMG Benz, the Chrysler SRT-6 coupe and roadster sport an AMG-built, 3.2-liter, 330-horsepower supercharged V-6 that delivers power to the rear wheels via a five-speed automatic with AutoStick manual control.

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PM.Zone 2004 Geneva International Motor Show - New Cars - Popular Mechanics

Among the models making their first appearance here in Geneva are the Crossfire SRT-6 and Crossfire Cabrio SRT-6. These are the first Chrysler-brand products badged SRT, a designation previously reserved for Dodge.
Using the help of Mercedes-Benz's AMG hot-rod division, the two Crossfire models will boast hand-built, supercharged 3.2-liter V6 engines

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Chrysler Crossfire: Chrysler Crossfire Srt-6

As the standard Chrysler Crossfire was derived from Mercedes SLK320, it can ... receive the same engine as the outgoing SLK32 AMG. This is the supercharged version of the 3.2 V6. It employs a very good helical type supercharger made by IHI. The aluminum supercharger is installed neatly into the V-valley thus takes virtually no extra space.
 

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Old 08-03-2009 | 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Tomygun
Reply to 32 Krazy! Lose your attitude and do your homework. Your pride is understandable as both of these cars comming off the AMG line are exceptional. But don"t take my word for it, contact them like I did and stop creating fabels about the SLK32 AMG. Sorry, but you are just wrong. T-Gun
im not sure what "fabels " you are referring to about the slk32. i have all the documentation i need from mercedes to verify my slk32 is a true amg car.
as for my attitude its mine and ill do what i like with it!
 
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Old 08-03-2009 | 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted by 32krazy!
as for the srt-6 being "marginally" faster than the slk32 i wouldnt know i have never raced one. but by the stats from car and driver the srt-6 is 330 hp and the slk32 is 349 hp. so by stats alone the 32 is faster.
Actually, it has been determined that the horsepower deficit is only present on the dealership brochures, because once they;re both strapped to a dyno, the cars yield the same power. Ask the fellas at TVT, Eurocharged, etc... the consensus is that the SRT was advertised with less HP as a courtesy to MB. Also, it's my understanding that the X-fire is lighter, and I know for a fact that the torsional rigidity/handling is superior.

Does it all really matter? Not to me. If someone installed Kleemann parts on their SRT and wanted to put on a Kleemann badge, go for it. Steve Hellums had Renntech tuning on his if I'm not mistaken. Basically, if a car is branded with an emblem and it hass the ***** and legitimacy to back it up, I have no issues.

After all, Carl is simply putting a badge on, not altering the car's title. He isn't swapping VINs. It's basically an outward testemonial of the inside guts of the car. I wouldn't take offense to it. We're all here for the greater cause.
 
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Old 08-03-2009 | 09:10 AM
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if you like the amg on your car then do it ,, some debadge them and love it,, some put GT on them. some change the wheels,, some change the hood,,, some tint the windows,, some put strips on them SOME PUT AMX ON THEM,,,ME,, it is your car ,, make it like you want it,, if Chrysler didn't want you to mess with it they would have told Obama to make a law that no changes including color could be made to any chrysler . that is no laughing matter.. jim
 
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Old 08-03-2009 | 09:11 AM
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Originally Posted by JHM2K
Actually, it has been determined that the horsepower deficit is only present on the dealership brochures, because once they;re both strapped to a dyno, the cars yield the same power. Ask the fellas at TVT, Eurocharged, etc... the consensus is that the SRT was advertised with less HP as a courtesy to MB. Also, it's my understanding that the X-fire is lighter, and I know for a fact that the torsional rigidity/handling is superior.

Does it all really matter? Not to me. If someone installed Kleemann parts on their SRT and wanted to put on a Kleemann badge, go for it. Steve Hellums had Renntech tuning on his if I'm not mistaken. Basically, if a car is branded with an emblem and it hass the ***** and legitimacy to back it up, I have no issues.

After all, Carl is simply putting a badge on, not altering the car's title. He isn't swapping VINs. It's basically an outward testemonial of the inside guts of the car. I wouldn't take offense to it. We're all here for the greater cause.
i think you fail to see the difference. kleeman brabus are outside companies that upgrade the car much like ligenfelter does to the vette
amg is a part of m/b.
there are many things you can do to the srt-6 to make it unique. to attempt to ask the masses to accept it as an amg auto isnt one of them.
i guess at this point its time to agree that we will never agree!
 
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Old 08-03-2009 | 09:20 AM
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Don't forget to go over to the Pagani forum and tell them not to put their AMG badges on.
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Eh, SRT and AMG do similar things. Take cars and make them faster, handle better, etc.
The SRT6s probably are not true AMG vehicles. AMG is not part of the name, but it is part of the car and it's accompanying literature.

I think I will get a bumper sticker made that says:
Designed by Chrysler - Built by Karmann - MB AMG Powertrain
AND EVERYBODY HATES ME.
Mopar guys hate me because I'm not a true Chrysler.
MB guys hate me because I'm not a true MB.

LOL.
 
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Old 08-03-2009 | 09:29 AM
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im not telling anybody not to put them on. do what you will
heres a link for all the srt-6 owners. to get on this website you need only register your amg vin number
http://www.mercedes-amg.com/privatelounge
let me know if you enter i use the same screen name there. come on in and say hello!
 

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Old 08-03-2009 | 09:34 AM
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Originally Posted by RPM
I think I will get a bumper sticker made that says:
Designed by Chrysler - Built by Karmann - MB AMG Powertrain
AND EVERYBODY HATES ME.
Mopar guys hate me because I'm not a true Chrysler.
MB guys hate me because I'm not a true MB.

LOL.
And both are angry b/c we're faster hahaha j/k....

But no, seriously
 
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Old 08-03-2009 | 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by JHM2K

After all, Carl is simply putting a badge on, not altering the car's title. He isn't swapping VINs. It's basically an outward testemonial of the inside guts of the car. I wouldn't take offense to it. We're all here for the greater cause.
I could not have said it better myself!
 
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Old 08-03-2009 | 10:06 AM
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Question to be clarified:
Krazy;
Do you acknowledge that the SRT6 is the same car as yours,minus the engine plaque (we have only a blank space where it is supposed to go), and with different outside panels?
If not, provide justification why.
I will reiterate my position on the badging:
I wouldn't Call a Pontiac G8 a Holden Commodore, even though they are the same car under the skin, so I wouldn't call an SRT an AMG.
 
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Old 08-03-2009 | 10:09 AM
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I should add that said justification will require you to list car components that are not shared.
 
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Old 08-03-2009 | 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by aussiedude
Question to be clarified:
Krazy;
Do you acknowledge that the SRT6 is the same car as yours,minus the engine plaque (we have only a blank space where it is supposed to go), and with different outside panels?
If not, provide justification why.
I will reiterate my position on the badging:
I wouldn't Call a Pontiac G8 a Holden Commodore, even though they are the same car under the skin, so I wouldn't call an SRT an AMG.
no i do not acknowledge that srt-6 is the same car and heres why
the slk32 was built from 2002 to 2004. this car was the m/b amg version of the slk320.there are 4333 amg slk32 built worldwide. 1506 in the us the srt-6 wasnt built until 2005 when the amg version from m/b went to a normally aspirated v-8. the mani's on the 32 are stamped amg yours say srt-6 the doorsills on the 32 are stamped amg yours say srt-6 the 32 comes from the factory with trunk badging amg the srt-6 doesnt.the flormats are badged slk32 amg the seats are badged amg as are the gages in the dash.
the bottom line to all of this is when m/b went from the r170 body style to the r171 in 2005 they didnt want to waste the leftover r170 driveline parts so they put it in the crossfire. simple economics. it wasnt done to build a rare car that was the slk55 amg. it was done so high dollar engine and driveline parts wouldnt be wasted
while the srt-6 may use many componets from the r170 line it is not now nor will it ever be an amg car. its as simple as that.
use my link above. only amg vin numbers are allowed access. if your car vin gets you in then leave me a post
 
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Old 08-03-2009 | 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by 32krazy!
use my link above. only amg vin numbers are allowed access. if your car vin gets you in then leave me a post
I'm still confused as to why you have such animosity? I mean, I suppose we could request as much from you, in regards to a Crossfire VIN number. Can you provide us with one of those? You are in our playhouse, technically. Instead, we welcome all types, and that is why this very discussion is taking place. If we were as much of an elitist as you're appearing to be, you'd never make it past the threshold.

If you hate the way our house smells, and hate the fact that the tennants are proud to share the same mechanical underpinnings as you.... and if we aren't worthy of the presence of the almighty AMG... why are you still on the couch?

Don't get me wrong, I enjoy having you around the boards and I think you have an incredibly sharp car. I think it's awesome to see another board member from the 'Boro... totally cool. But I am truly shocked at how vehement you're being in regards to someone's pride in the drivetrain. It's an unusual side I haven't seen.

I simply hope you don't buy generic Cheerios... how dare they be round and made of wheat like the real McCoys are.
 
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Old 08-03-2009 | 11:20 AM
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wow... talk about passion. it's funny how the same topics keep coming up.
I think the satin looks better.
-Steve
 
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Old 08-03-2009 | 11:55 AM
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I like the Satin badge......

I have 2 quarter window "AMG" stickers...I have 2 blue "AMG" caliper stickers and about to add 1 final blue one somewhere......call me a poser. These were added by me, not MB or AMG but I be damn if I added the stamped AMG on my supercharger, or the stamped MB on my calipers. Not saying that makes it an AMG....just saying the pedigree is in it. When asked....I say it's a Chrylers Crossfire. I have Saleen stickers on my Stang...it's not a true Saleen, but it will out run most!
 
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Old 08-03-2009 | 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by JHM2K
I'm still confused as to why you have such animosity? I mean, I suppose we could request as much from you, in regards to a Crossfire VIN number. Can you provide us with one of those? You are in our playhouse, technically. Instead, we welcome all types, and that is why this very discussion is taking place. If we were as much of an elitist as you're appearing to be, you'd never make it past the threshold.

If you hate the way our house smells, and hate the fact that the tennants are proud to share the same mechanical underpinnings as you.... and if we aren't worthy of the presence of the almighty AMG... why are you still on the couch?

Don't get me wrong, I enjoy having you around the boards and I think you have an incredibly sharp car. I think it's awesome to see another board member from the 'Boro... totally cool. But I am truly shocked at how vehement you're being in regards to someone's pride in the drivetrain. It's an unusual side I haven't seen.

I simply hope you don't buy generic Cheerios... how dare they be round and made of wheat like the real McCoys are.
i have no animosty towards anyone. as for the crossfire vin i cant supply 1.if that was a requirement of joining i wouldnt be here. i would continue with the other amg and m/b forums. of course i havent been saying my car is a crossfire. i have no issues whatsoever with the underpinnings of the car. but for you or anyone with a mercedes that isnt a true amg to imply their car is 1 is false. badge it all you want. but it wont make the srt-6 an amg car. sorry if it offends you but thats how it is.
there is a reason to badge a car amg. or zo6 or shelby or m series. it separates the car from the other styles similar to it. what would you say to someone who badges their xfire limited with all the markings of the srt-6? puts in the srt-6 driveline and interior? is their car then a srt-6? no its still a limited xfire with all the addons
when i buy generic cheerios im aware of what they are. i dont put them in a cheerios box in order to impress

it isnt vehemence towards anyone its a true pride in what i searched for and purchased. i could have bought a vette or porsche or bimmer. i chose the slk32 amg for its rarity and exclusivity.

my question from the start was why would you badge a car amg if it isnt one? simple question. what i got in response was how this car the srt-6 IS just like the 32 and everybit an amg as the 32. well it isnt. and no amount of posts parts and badges will ever make it one. sorry the amg is the high perfomance divison of mercedes not chrysler

having said all this i will continue to follow the threads here and post as needed or asked. i think the srt-6 is a true rare and exclusive car in its own right. i see no need to try to make it something it isnt it can stand on its own.
we simply need to agree to disagree
 

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Old 08-03-2009 | 12:06 PM
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If I may,

"sorry the amg is the high perfomance divison of mercedes not chrysler"

At the time the Crossfire SRT6 was built, Mercedes and Chrysler were the same company.
 
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Old 08-03-2009 | 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by NoSup4U
If I may,

"sorry the amg is the high perfomance divison of mercedes not chrysler"

At the time the Crossfire SRT6 was built, Mercedes and Chrysler were the same company.
incorrect statement. m/b owned chrysler like ford owned jaguar . not the same co.
 



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