Turbo Crossfire on the Dyno crushes 400 hp
Re: Turbo Crossfire on the Dyno crushes 400 hp
Originally Posted by loungn14
Well, its time for another installment of the turbo diaries.
Last night we were finally able to strap down our friend importlab down to our new dyno dynamics dyno for a tuning session. The car performed really well, and after a little tune tweaking we were able to break the 400hp barrier.
The car sounds amazing, like a true monster.
The end results?
428.7 hp on a Dyno D nevertheless!
The better part about it? We are just getting into it and she definately has more on the table!
Last night we were finally able to strap down our friend importlab down to our new dyno dynamics dyno for a tuning session. The car performed really well, and after a little tune tweaking we were able to break the 400hp barrier.
The car sounds amazing, like a true monster.
The end results?
428.7 hp on a Dyno D nevertheless!
The better part about it? We are just getting into it and she definately has more on the table!
What's your pricing for the ECU portion of this build? When I get the funds together I'll opt for the STS style setup but would need the electronics handled as well. Thanks!
Re: Turbo Crossfire on the Dyno crushes 400 hp
Originally Posted by msheredy
Hey Jake,
What's your pricing for the ECU portion of this build? When I get the funds together I'll opt for the STS style setup but would need the electronics handled as well. Thanks!
What's your pricing for the ECU portion of this build? When I get the funds together I'll opt for the STS style setup but would need the electronics handled as well. Thanks!
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Re: Turbo Crossfire on the Dyno crushes 400 hp
Go with the GT4294, 1.01 AR Hotside FTW. Dual Ball Bearing optional.
A GT35R would be reasonable for getting groceries, but for pushing 28psi, it won't get you up to 700+hp, which is - as you know - the bare minimum for a respectable daily driver.
A GT35R would be reasonable for getting groceries, but for pushing 28psi, it won't get you up to 700+hp, which is - as you know - the bare minimum for a respectable daily driver.
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Re: Turbo Crossfire on the Dyno crushes 400 hp
Before you even considering upgrading from a GT35 to a 42... you have to figure out how the heck you are going to put that power to the ground... 700rwhp is great...except when you cant get ANY power to the ground and just burn out through all 5 gears... FTL
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Re: Turbo Crossfire on the Dyno crushes 400 hp
Originally Posted by ZAHANMA
Before you even considering upgrading from a GT35 to a 42... you have to figure out how the heck you are going to put that power to the ground... 700rwhp is great...except when you cant get ANY power to the ground and just burn out through all 5 gears... FTL
). I think the mid 500 whp range would be challenge enough for the drivetrain.
Re: Turbo Crossfire on the Dyno crushes 400 hp
Originally Posted by ProjectMayhem
What turbo are you using, i would like to look at the Compressor maps and see if there aren't much more ideal turbo's to fit our application.
all custom programming
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Re: Turbo Crossfire on the Dyno crushes 400 hp
Originally Posted by loungn14
we aren't using anything close to the stock maps......you wouldn't be able to start the car...yet alone drive it more than 5mph
all custom programming
all custom programming
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Re: Turbo Crossfire on the Dyno crushes 400hp
Originally Posted by ImportLabSRT
As Matt posted, I have spent the past couple weeks getting the car looking a little better for Hot Import Nights. Added my new wheels, some window tint and Koni Shocks with Eibach springs.
Now for the turbo news.....I daily drive this car and have yet to have any problems other than a little overheating issue. 2 weeks ago there was a few days where the outside temp was over 100deg and where my FMIC is located, it was blocking most of the air going to the radiator. Nascar style, I pulled the front lower grills and the temps went back down to normal.
I now have 2k miles on this setup and love it. City I get about 22mpg and highway I get 28mpg with A/C on and 31mpg w/o A/C. I have yet to up the boost and play with the tune. The car is on the rich side for safety so more power is there even at 15-16psi that I am at now. When its cold out at night, I see 18+ psi at times and the car hauls ***.....bbbbuuuuttt if the car sees 20psi, the ECU gets a little pissed off and cuts fuel + spark.
As for track use, a torque converter is going to be needed to get the car off the line. I can only get 11-1200 rpms out of my stock converter at the line before I push the front wheels thru the beam. At 1100rpms, the turbo only builds about 1lb of boost and when I let off the brake the car bogs and slowly crawls to a 2.6 60ft and blows my Hoosiers away going into 2nd and at times 3rd. My next goal is to get 20-21psi out of this thing. Fuel injectors and a fuel pump will have to be sourced
Now for the turbo news.....I daily drive this car and have yet to have any problems other than a little overheating issue. 2 weeks ago there was a few days where the outside temp was over 100deg and where my FMIC is located, it was blocking most of the air going to the radiator. Nascar style, I pulled the front lower grills and the temps went back down to normal.
I now have 2k miles on this setup and love it. City I get about 22mpg and highway I get 28mpg with A/C on and 31mpg w/o A/C. I have yet to up the boost and play with the tune. The car is on the rich side for safety so more power is there even at 15-16psi that I am at now. When its cold out at night, I see 18+ psi at times and the car hauls ***.....bbbbuuuuttt if the car sees 20psi, the ECU gets a little pissed off and cuts fuel + spark.
As for track use, a torque converter is going to be needed to get the car off the line. I can only get 11-1200 rpms out of my stock converter at the line before I push the front wheels thru the beam. At 1100rpms, the turbo only builds about 1lb of boost and when I let off the brake the car bogs and slowly crawls to a 2.6 60ft and blows my Hoosiers away going into 2nd and at times 3rd. My next goal is to get 20-21psi out of this thing. Fuel injectors and a fuel pump will have to be sourced
You might want to watch going up to 20psi and look into using Tri Flow Technology. I was able to lower my boost on My probe GTZE (JDM Engine swap) and get better power once I installed special colt turbo tri flow cams.... turbo lag decreased greatly also .! Colt Cams TRI Flow Technology
Watch the boost.. get the tri flow cams... your numbers will shock the world!
FYI... I had to get a better fuel pump... but the girl really could breath better with the use of tri flow technology.
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Re: Turbo Crossfire on the Dyno crushes 400 hp
Well before you go altering the cams you can solve most choke and surge problems if your using a turbo thats matches your desired goal PSI and the displacemnt of your application. Thats why i was wanting to see the compressor maps for the turbo and see where we are at with the turbo being used.
Re: Turbo Crossfire on the Dyno crushes 400hp
Originally Posted by Mad_Med05X
You might want to watch going up to 20psi and look into using Tri Flow Technology. I was able to lower my boost on My probe GTZE (JDM Engine swap) and get better power once I installed special colt turbo tri flow cams.... turbo lag decreased greatly also .! Colt Cams TRI Flow Technology
Watch the boost.. get the tri flow cams... your numbers will shock the world!
FYI... I had to get a better fuel pump... but the girl really could breath better with the use of tri flow technology.
Watch the boost.. get the tri flow cams... your numbers will shock the world!
FYI... I had to get a better fuel pump... but the girl really could breath better with the use of tri flow technology.
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We would need to see your cam first to determine what the stock lift and duration is. At this point I can design something with you over telephone that will suit what you’re after as well as cost.
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If you are interested please give us a call at your convenience and I will go over the details.
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Re: Turbo Crossfire on the Dyno crushes 400hp
Haha you only read the first sentence didn't you...
Somebody please send them a cam! It's a piece of metal, just like any other camshaft. It can be reproduced and modified! Just because Shrick was the only company that made them doesn't we have to spend thousands on the freaking things. We have SOHC's, Hydraulic roller setup. It's ~1998 Mercedes technology, not exactly cutting edge.The car can be modified. If a custom cam were to be made, it would be a good idea to have a group buy. That would push the manufacturer to produce the product, and at a lower cost than a one-off custom.
Somebody please send them a cam! It's a piece of metal, just like any other camshaft. It can be reproduced and modified! Just because Shrick was the only company that made them doesn't we have to spend thousands on the freaking things. We have SOHC's, Hydraulic roller setup. It's ~1998 Mercedes technology, not exactly cutting edge.The car can be modified. If a custom cam were to be made, it would be a good idea to have a group buy. That would push the manufacturer to produce the product, and at a lower cost than a one-off custom.
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don't bother. colt is not for our cars.
To Michael,
Thank-you, for contacting us.
Sorry we have not seen this model as of yet.
However, I have been working with cams for over 25 years and designing something new has always been my one of my passions.
A few questions need to be answered first on the valve trane, example: solid or Hyd lifters, roller or flat tappet, sohc or dohc etc…
We would need to see your cam first to determine what the stock lift and duration is. At this point I can design something with you over telephone that will suit what you’re after as well as cost.
There is no charge if we can’t do anything for you. We will also pay for the return shipping back to you if this is the case.
If you are interested please give us a call at your convenience and I will go over the details.
Thank-you,
Geoff Bardal
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When sending in your cams, via any courier service or the post office.
Please put as the value of the cams to be under $10.00.
This falls under NAFTA and no duty charges will be inflicted on you.
Please put on the waybill as well as on the package.
"Damaged Camshaft for Repair and Return"
PAYMENT
We only accept International Money Orders in US funds made out to Colt Cams Inc.
COLT CAMS INC.
#54 - 3347 262 nd Street
Langley , BC
V4W 3V9
TEL: (604) 856-3571
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geoff1@coltcams.com
To Michael,
Thank-you, for contacting us.
Sorry we have not seen this model as of yet.
However, I have been working with cams for over 25 years and designing something new has always been my one of my passions.
A few questions need to be answered first on the valve trane, example: solid or Hyd lifters, roller or flat tappet, sohc or dohc etc…
We would need to see your cam first to determine what the stock lift and duration is. At this point I can design something with you over telephone that will suit what you’re after as well as cost.
There is no charge if we can’t do anything for you. We will also pay for the return shipping back to you if this is the case.
If you are interested please give us a call at your convenience and I will go over the details.
Thank-you,
Geoff Bardal
FOR OUR U.S. CUSTOMERS REGARDING SHIPPING
When sending in your cams, via any courier service or the post office.
Please put as the value of the cams to be under $10.00.
This falls under NAFTA and no duty charges will be inflicted on you.
Please put on the waybill as well as on the package.
"Damaged Camshaft for Repair and Return"
PAYMENT
We only accept International Money Orders in US funds made out to Colt Cams Inc.
COLT CAMS INC.
#54 - 3347 262 nd Street
Langley , BC
V4W 3V9
TEL: (604) 856-3571
FAX: (604) 856-3572
www.coltcams.com
geoff1@coltcams.com
Re: Turbo Crossfire on the Dyno crushes 400 hp
Originally Posted by jturkel
i agree....that guys sounds WILLING to make something....and if it doesnt work, no money spent. get this done....and then group buy FTW!
"We would need to see your cam first..."
"At this point I can design something ..."
no cost to take your engine apart and pull the cams?
no cost to reinstall the cam if it doesn't work out?
no cost for the down time while the design is being worked out?
I fail to understand your logic.
Re: Turbo Crossfire on the Dyno crushes 400 hp
Originally Posted by black05
i think you need to re-read his response.
"We would need to see your cam first..."
"At this point I can design something ..."
no cost to take your engine apart and pull the cams?
no cost to reinstall the cam if it doesn't work out?
no cost for the down time while the design is being worked out?
I fail to understand your logic.
"We would need to see your cam first..."
"At this point I can design something ..."
no cost to take your engine apart and pull the cams?
no cost to reinstall the cam if it doesn't work out?
no cost for the down time while the design is being worked out?
I fail to understand your logic.
Re: Turbo Crossfire on the Dyno crushes 400 hp
Originally Posted by jturkel
i assumed you were going to do it yourself despite it being a long uninstallation and installation process. my bad.
hour and a half... tops.
haha.
but seriously i know of an E36 M3 engine getting taken out of the car w/o a engine hoist in 30minutes.
Then i personally saw them completely take it apart at the shop in about 45minutes...maybe less... damn impressive if you ask me.
