crossfire dissed!
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The acid test is not what some columists on Yahoo thinks. The test is what the demand is/will be when it is ten years old and older. I have owned many "rare" cars in my 63 years. IMHO the SRT6 has the greatest potential of any car I have owned. I am taking care of mine and will own it ten years from now.
We'll see who is right
We'll see who is right
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Re: crossfire dissed!
Originally Posted by ACRucrazy
Hence why these cars are now a huge bargin.
Why did you come on here any way, to bash?
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Good for me! I love my Mercedes with a better body and cheaper badge! Just allowed me to save more money for toys and to not have a car payment! I've never heard anything but positive comments. I've had 10 times the compliments about this car than I did my G35 coupe 6MT, SLK, 00 BMW, and even my Ducati.
Why did you come on here any way, to bash?
Why did you come on here any way, to bash?
Yes, I went out and bought a Crossfire SRT-6 so I could come on an internet forum and bash it.
All I speak is the truth, if you anyones love for this car blinds them then that is their problem not mine.
I love the crossfire. However the truth is, when it was released it was too expensive for what it is. If you want to argue that then fine, go ahead. They sat on lots for YEARS unsold because of the price and what the car was. It was a very expensive Chrysler with low practicality. If you wanted the top of the line SRT-6 you were stuck with an auto and this put off alot of buyers. At 46-52 grand sticker alot of potential buyers went elsewhere.. ie Corvette.
Call it what you want, your cheap Mercedes, because that is exactly what it is. Most buyers spending 52 grand on "these cars" went across the street and picked up a "real Mercedes" for a few grand more.
Am I bashing? No. Is it good that they went unsold? For the buyers at full sticker or close to it, Im willing to bet they would say no. For the buyers like you and me? I am going to say yes.
Do I like the looks of the Yep, always have, however IMO (and many agree, but not all and thats fine) the back end of the coupe leaves something to be desired.
Hey, if you are happy great, but at the end of the day the Crossfire was overpriced, and the SRT-6 was just a bit too odd (awesome styling, great handling, amazing power... all that fun without the 3rd pedal and something to row with your right hand) Yes I understand its an AMG and they are all autos. Thats fine, Im over that. However for a true sports car which this was very capable of being, it really should be a manual.
I am not here to bash your car, remember I have the same thing in the garage.
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In my opinion the lack of a manual transmission is overplayed. It's incessantly revered as the one true characteristic of a sports car. Yet half of all Corvettes are sold with auto trannys. Does this mean that half of all Corvettes are not real sports cars?
Is the Crossfire considered a flop because it didn't sell, or because it didn't sell as well as Chrysler had expected? Chrysler way over estimated the market for this car and overbuilt accordingly. A more reasonable production run that sold out completely would have eased much of the criticism directed at the Crossfire.
Beauty is certainly subjective with few cars evoking such polar reactions as the Crossfire. But given the choice between controversy and blandness, I'll pick the controversial car.
Is the Crossfire considered a flop because it didn't sell, or because it didn't sell as well as Chrysler had expected? Chrysler way over estimated the market for this car and overbuilt accordingly. A more reasonable production run that sold out completely would have eased much of the criticism directed at the Crossfire.
Beauty is certainly subjective with few cars evoking such polar reactions as the Crossfire. But given the choice between controversy and blandness, I'll pick the controversial car.
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Re: crossfire dissed!
Originally Posted by Brent
In my opinion the lack of a manual transmission is overplayed. It's incessantly revered as the one true characteristic of a sports car. Yet half of all Corvettes are sold with auto trannys. Does this mean that half of all Corvettes are not real sports cars?
Is the Crossfire considered a flop because it didn't sell, or because it didn't sell as well as Chrysler had expected? Chrysler way over estimated the market for this car and overbuilt accordingly. A more reasonable production run that sold out completely would have eased much of the criticism directed at the Crossfire.
Beauty is certainly subjective with few cars evoking such polar reactions as the Crossfire. But given the choice between controversy and blandness, I'll pick the controversial car.
Is the Crossfire considered a flop because it didn't sell, or because it didn't sell as well as Chrysler had expected? Chrysler way over estimated the market for this car and overbuilt accordingly. A more reasonable production run that sold out completely would have eased much of the criticism directed at the Crossfire.
Beauty is certainly subjective with few cars evoking such polar reactions as the Crossfire. But given the choice between controversy and blandness, I'll pick the controversial car.
It wasn't held back because it was a restyled 6 year old SLK platform or because it was overproduced, or because the SRT package didn't come in a manual tranny.
At $20K below the equivalent Benz it was hardly overpriced . And compared to the Z350 or the Porshe, it was a bargain.
Nor did it fail because some foppish Brit didn't like it's stance.
It failed to do well because it was the red headed step child of a divorcing pair of companies. It was saddled with the label of the of the poor, deflowered bride. There was little confidence in its service support or the strength of the Chysler organization.
Most people, who would buy these kinds of cars, are particular about it's pedigree. This one had a major flaw
Lovely as they are, our precious little cuties are fatherless B@stards.
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Re: crossfire dissed!
Originally Posted by ACRucrazy
It was only 3-4k less than the 2004 supercharged SLK (our car) and 8k less than the 2005 SLK (v8, new platform)
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Check out my post #34
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Re: crossfire dissed!
Originally Posted by Franc Rauscher
For a while, I believe in 2006, you could buy a Crossfire on the big "O"
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I didn't know they even sold cars, that's pretty crazy.
I think I saw maybe 1 commercial ever for the Crossfire, they definitely screwed up the advertising.
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Re: crossfire dissed!
MSRP Price comparison,
MB SLK 320 Crossfire Difference
2004
Base model $40,320 $ 33,620 $6,700
2005
AMG/SRT $ 56,170 $ 45,170 $11,000
When I was looking at 2001 SLK's at my MB dealer, he had nothing on the lot under $50K Sticker. And they don't discount much at MB.
Except for the introductory years, Chrysler was discounting as much as $10K on cars, every time I looked. I looked often.
Seldom if ever saw them closer than $20K in sell price.
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MB SLK 320 Crossfire Difference
2004
Base model $40,320 $ 33,620 $6,700
2005
AMG/SRT $ 56,170 $ 45,170 $11,000
When I was looking at 2001 SLK's at my MB dealer, he had nothing on the lot under $50K Sticker. And they don't discount much at MB.
Except for the introductory years, Chrysler was discounting as much as $10K on cars, every time I looked. I looked often.
Seldom if ever saw them closer than $20K in sell price.
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Re: crossfire dissed!
Originally Posted by Franc Rauscher
MSRP Price comparison,
MB SLK 320 Crossfire Difference
2004
Base model $40,320 $ 33,620 $6,700
2005
AMG/SRT $ 56,170 $ 45,170 $11,000
When I was looking at 2001 SLK's at my MB dealer, he had nothing on the lot under $50K Sticker. And they don't discount much at MB.
Except for the introductory years, Chrysler was discounting as much as $10K on cars, every time I looked. I looked often.
Seldom if ever saw them closer than $20K in sell price.
roadster with a stick
MB SLK 320 Crossfire Difference
2004
Base model $40,320 $ 33,620 $6,700
2005
AMG/SRT $ 56,170 $ 45,170 $11,000
When I was looking at 2001 SLK's at my MB dealer, he had nothing on the lot under $50K Sticker. And they don't discount much at MB.
Except for the introductory years, Chrysler was discounting as much as $10K on cars, every time I looked. I looked often.
Seldom if ever saw them closer than $20K in sell price.
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What did you get with your 52k SRT-6 Roadster? Well you didnt get tilt, auto dimming rear view mirror thats forsure.
The reason chrysler was discounting the crossfire is because it wasnt selling! And no one bought a SRT-6 in 2005 at 10k off of sticker. (maybe late 05 when the 06s were rolling out and the SRT was still sitting on the lot from 12 moths earlier)
People were buying other cars because Chrysler overpriced the car.
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Re: crossfire dissed!
Originally Posted by ACRucrazy
You are comparing a hard top coupe SRT-6 (46k) to a convertable SLK (56k) A proper comparison would the convertable SRT-6 (52k) Difference = 4k.
What did you get with your 52k SRT-6 Roadster? Well you didnt get tilt, auto dimming rear view mirror thats forsure.
The reason chrysler was discounting the crossfire is because it wasnt selling! And no one bought a SRT-6 in 2005 at 10k off of sticker. (maybe late 05 when the 06s were rolling out and the SRT was still sitting on the lot from 12 moths earlier)
People were buying other cars because Chrysler overpriced the car.
What did you get with your 52k SRT-6 Roadster? Well you didnt get tilt, auto dimming rear view mirror thats forsure.
The reason chrysler was discounting the crossfire is because it wasnt selling! And no one bought a SRT-6 in 2005 at 10k off of sticker. (maybe late 05 when the 06s were rolling out and the SRT was still sitting on the lot from 12 moths earlier)
People were buying other cars because Chrysler overpriced the car.
But, I was actually shopping and comparing prices at the time. Still have my MB brochures with quoted dealer sell prices. Even at the $33K I couldn't do the Crossfire, although I sure wanted to. When the sell price for my new '06 went to $22K, I jumped for it. As did many.
This may prove your point but my perspective is that at $40K the roadster, backed by a failing company that just severed ties with the parts and service resource for the Crossfire, was scary.
Comparing the cars side by side is subjective. Comparing the intrinsic value is factual.
Intrinsically they were the same car. If the SLK was worth $40, the Crossfire was as well but the shaky Chrysler Badge devalued it.
If this horse isn't yet dead, can we just kill it?
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Re: crossfire dissed!
Originally Posted by ACRucrazy
Yes, I went out and bought a Crossfire SRT-6 so I could come on an internet forum and bash it.
All I speak is the truth, if you anyones love for this car blinds them then that is their problem not mine.
I love the crossfire. However the truth is, when it was released it was too expensive for what it is. If you want to argue that then fine, go ahead. They sat on lots for YEARS unsold because of the price and what the car was. It was a very expensive Chrysler with low practicality. If you wanted the top of the line SRT-6 you were stuck with an auto and this put off alot of buyers. At 46-52 grand sticker alot of potential buyers went elsewhere.. ie Corvette.
Call it what you want, your cheap Mercedes, because that is exactly what it is. Most buyers spending 52 grand on "these cars" went across the street and picked up a "real Mercedes" for a few grand more.
Am I bashing? No. Is it good that they went unsold? For the buyers at full sticker or close to it, Im willing to bet they would say no. For the buyers like you and me? Hey, I picked mine up 1private owner for 16k flat. I am going to say yes.
Do I like the looks of the Yep, always have, however IMO (and many agree, but not all and thats fine) the back end of the coupe leaves something to be desired.
Hey, if you are happy great, but at the end of the day the Crossfire was overpriced, and the SRT-6 was just a bit too odd (awesome styling, great handling, amazing power... all that fun without the 3rd pedal and something to row with your right hand) Yes I understand its an AMG and they are all autos. Thats fine, Im over that. However for a true sports car which this was very capable of being, it really should be a manual.
I am not here to bash your car, remember I have the same thing in the garage.
All I speak is the truth, if you anyones love for this car blinds them then that is their problem not mine.
I love the crossfire. However the truth is, when it was released it was too expensive for what it is. If you want to argue that then fine, go ahead. They sat on lots for YEARS unsold because of the price and what the car was. It was a very expensive Chrysler with low practicality. If you wanted the top of the line SRT-6 you were stuck with an auto and this put off alot of buyers. At 46-52 grand sticker alot of potential buyers went elsewhere.. ie Corvette.
Call it what you want, your cheap Mercedes, because that is exactly what it is. Most buyers spending 52 grand on "these cars" went across the street and picked up a "real Mercedes" for a few grand more.
Am I bashing? No. Is it good that they went unsold? For the buyers at full sticker or close to it, Im willing to bet they would say no. For the buyers like you and me? Hey, I picked mine up 1private owner for 16k flat. I am going to say yes.
Do I like the looks of the Yep, always have, however IMO (and many agree, but not all and thats fine) the back end of the coupe leaves something to be desired.
Hey, if you are happy great, but at the end of the day the Crossfire was overpriced, and the SRT-6 was just a bit too odd (awesome styling, great handling, amazing power... all that fun without the 3rd pedal and something to row with your right hand) Yes I understand its an AMG and they are all autos. Thats fine, Im over that. However for a true sports car which this was very capable of being, it really should be a manual.
I am not here to bash your car, remember I have the same thing in the garage.
Agreed 900000000% with this post (as ususal, with ACRucrazy).
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Yes, I went out and bought a Crossfire SRT-6 so I could come on an internet forum and bash it.
I knew you were up to no good.
If it makes any body feel better, I bought my car off the Showroom floor, after all said and done, with future oil changes, and warranty. I paid 45,000 and I have noregrets!
By the way, The ladies love this car! The car is a chick magnet! Just don't tell that to my fiancee.
I knew you were up to no good.
If it makes any body feel better, I bought my car off the Showroom floor, after all said and done, with future oil changes, and warranty. I paid 45,000 and I have noregrets! By the way, The ladies love this car! The car is a chick magnet! Just don't tell that to my fiancee.
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I just happened to be on Esquire.com and searched for Crossfire. Here's what the journalists were saying before it became fashionable to bash our cars:
[FOR THE MAN WHO FANCIES A NICE RUMP ]
CHRYSLER CROSSFIRE
With arguably the best-looking backside since J. Lo, the Crossfire is the first by-product of the Mercedes-and-Chrysler marriage. The monster coupe has a long hood, flared fenders, and a raised spine that runs all the way from the grille to its sloping rear end. Add in a leather-clad interior and a 215 hp Mercedes engine under the hood, and what you get is a really fast piece of high-end architecture. Available spring 2003; price not set.
[FOR THE MAN WHO FANCIES A NICE RUMP ]
CHRYSLER CROSSFIRE
With arguably the best-looking backside since J. Lo, the Crossfire is the first by-product of the Mercedes-and-Chrysler marriage. The monster coupe has a long hood, flared fenders, and a raised spine that runs all the way from the grille to its sloping rear end. Add in a leather-clad interior and a 215 hp Mercedes engine under the hood, and what you get is a really fast piece of high-end architecture. Available spring 2003; price not set.