After 2 accidents and wanting to use a 2 wheel dyno, i finally decided to remove the Stability and traction control. Not having 100% control over the car made me extremly uneasy i love this car and want to keep it as long as i can. And hearing those rear brakes grind when i do my burnouts at the track just hurt so bad and had to be hard on the axles.

Total time was only 15min most of it was figuring out how to get under console to get the yaw sensor, then unhooking the wire for Traction under the hood.

took it for a test drive, did a few figure 8's, and full trottle hits from a dead stop... was still leaving rubber atfer 50 mph. But basically now the car does nothing other than what you make it. No more of that unnerving feeling when the stability kicks in and snaps you out of a controlled slide.

 

I will assume you now have the BAS/ESP light on, Or were you able install resistors to fool the computer?

Also which wires did you disconnect under the hood?

 

Be careful doing this.

Some people have found that disabling the ABS has caused the brake lights to stop working.

You might want to verify that your car is not one of them.

 

Good point!

Also love the joust, thats hilarious

 

I would definitely do this if there was a way to flip a switch to disable it totaly rather than unplugging stuff. While it might be better for the track, driving on the streets could be dangerous. The rear end on these cars come loose easily in my experience on these cars, especially in a hard turn. Nice to see it can be done tho, but be careful on the streets.

 

I am not sure I understand why people want to disable this so bad. The traction control and stability control are safety features that come on almost all new cars.

My car spins the tires to heat them up just fine at the track just by pressing the traction control button. Other than that I keep it on because I would rather not go sideways in a curve and go over a cliff when taking a drive in the mountains lol.

 

I tried this once at the track doing autocross and will not do it again. The loss of abs materially screwed that handling in the turns and I was not able to stop in time. Its so different handling, that I would say its not safe.

Woody

 

I suspect that you can put a single pole single throw switch on the ground wire for the yaw sensor and be able to disable it with that. Disconnecting the Yaw sensor is actually old news and getting to it is a pain because it's under the center console just rearward of the shifter.

I have gotten to mine, but I haven't disconnected it or tried the single wire disconnect. I only played with it for a doughnut.

 

There was a member who did that to his XF.

 

I believe that was Woody. I know there's also a video of it......youtube I think.

 

Woody has a srt6, that is a non-srt6 in the photo.

 

Good man! I too hate the damn TC/Stability Control.
I have just not ever had time to disassemble the car to unhook it. Thanks for sharing!

It is a shame to lose ABS when you do unhook it though.

Cheers,
KrzyFast

 

Ya thanks for reminding me the brake lights do not work when you unhook the traction unit wire under the hood. Also this is tied into your abs so you loose that as well, but honestly on the strip abs does me no good =P. Yaw sensor is staying unhooked on the street but the traction is just for when im at the track or on the dyno. a

 

Your thinking of "Waldig" (aka Woody)

This was forum username "Woody"

search "dirty donuts" on the forum

 

you are correct, i was thinking of waldig

 

Pulled this up from an old thread of mine.



Well I got the remote control circuit to turn off fuse's 17 & 18 installed this weekend. I had never pulled those fuse's in my car, all I knew about pulling them is what I had read here on the forum. It works good, just a click of a key fob and they are off and another click and they are on. I'm going to try to post up a couple pic's, one is the circuit wired up laying on a bench with the relay's tie-wrapped together and a thin piece of rubber wrapped around them to protect the connections. There is also a 4"X4"X2" thick piece of what looks like carpet padding in the same picture, it was laying in the very bottom of the fuse box. That is where I set the relay's & fuse holders, the remote reciever I pushed up between two wiring harness's that go on into the cabin (fit like a glove). The only wire that is outside the fuse box is the ground and I hid it pretty good. When I went out for a test drive I turned off the fuses and the ABS & BAS-ESP lights came on. I put it in 1st gear ran it up to about 10 MPH and while watching the tach I nailed it, I got pretty sideways immediately, the tac went up to about 6,200 & shifted to 2nd. Then I went looking for a parking lot with no cars to try a doughnut, found one at the local VFW and gave it a shot. It started out good, but once it started around and got a lot of weight on the outside rear tire it quit spinning, I was very disappointed, I only tried once because I didn't know where the town cop was.





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Steve, my brake lights still work, but only when the key is turned on. Does everybody's brake lights work with the ignition turned off?
My car is an 04, and I understand disconnecting the TC on later models sometimes causes different results.

 

My brake lights worked only when the key was on before I done this mod. The relay's I installed are normally closed so it's just like OEM until I click the remote fob and it's just like pulling #17 & #18 fuses. I had read awhile back that someone said their brake light didn't work when they pulled those fuses, so I went out and checked them with the circuit open and the brake lights still worked. I noticed right after I bought the car new that the brake lights didn't work without the key on. The Crossfires are the only car I've ever seen that the key had to be on for the brake lights to work.

 

I had a few people ask me about this when I first posted a video with the fuses pulled. I originally wanted to prove that the car wouldn't go into limp-in mode and lock down at 5000 rpm. I just happened to find out that it became incredibly easy to destroy really expensive tires. There were a good number of people who had their brake lights stop working from this. It is only certain cars affected by this, mine was not one of them.

MI1XFIRE was driving around for half a year with no brake lights until I pointed it out to him at last years Woodward GTG. I think it was #17 that he replaced and the problem went away.

 

Just a thought... On my 07 charger, if you put the car in neutral while rolling and then turn the key to the "start" position, (as if your trying to start the already running engine) hold for a few seconds until you here a chime. This will totally disable the traction control until you turn the car off and restart it.
I wonder if this would work on the Crossfire?? I haven't had the chance to try it yet.
No, you will not grind the starter motor. The computer recognizes that the car is running and won't let the starter engage. WARNING, I have only done this on my Charger. If your starter grinds, don't blame me!