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Old 04-20-2009 | 06:20 AM
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Since the other thread is being jacked and for reference I started another thread.
I will try and get photos taken today and post them up late tonight...the piston I saw is ugly.

As for when and how its happened I think I have that narrowed down but must talk to Euro- first to have the right timeline so that I will post as soon as I confirm it.

So ask all the questions you want....I will answer as fast as I can and as correct as I can...I also have asked Jake to post here also....

Kirk

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Old 04-20-2009 | 06:34 AM
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Mileage on old motor was knocking on 40,000 have to check to get exact.
New motor supplied by EUROCHARGED has 5000.

Was asked if motor was only choppy on start up....was choppy wether warmed up or not while in drive stopped or in reverse but not in park.....but motor did not have what I call that sewing maching sound anymore.
 
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Old 04-20-2009 | 08:37 AM
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Thanks for sharing your motor issues with the forum. This helps us all to learn more about our cars and perhaps avoid potential problems down the road.

I missed the other threads - I figured from the titles that they were related to something else; but I went back and read them.

While it can be a PIA to have some members who are cquick to jump to conclusions to support - well - what ever. It's also nice that we have a community of members and vendors who offer one another their support.

It's all part of an open forum.

Thanks again to you and Eurocharged for for taking the time to inform the forum...
 

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Old 04-20-2009 | 08:56 AM
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Damn! Sorry to hear about your motor, Kirk. That sucks - or since its supercharged, does it blow? LOL

Well, good luck with the repairs and I hope you find a smoking gun as far as what caused the problem. I'm sure we're all waiting to find out so we can make sure it doesn't happen to more motors.
 
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Old 04-20-2009 | 09:10 AM
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Sorry to hear about the bad luck. Did this car have water or meth injection? Hydrolock could do this too (with some bent rods).
 
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Old 04-20-2009 | 01:17 PM
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RIOT - sorry to hear you're going through this; big "thumbs-up" to EC for supplying you with a replacement motor.

When convenient, I think it would be helpful for the forum if you were to chronicle your mods in some sort of orderly fashion. Something like:

"A" intake installed xx,xxx miles and xx months ago
"B" pulley installed xx,xxx miles and xx months ago
"C" tune installed xx,xxx miles and xx months ago
"B" pulley removed, "D" pulley installed x,xxx miles and x months ago
"C" tune revised/updated x,xxx miles and x months ago

etc, etc.

Obviously, I have no idea of what your mod-path has looked like - many others might not know either. I'd encourage for it to be as succinct and factual as possible - people can then better form educated guesses on what might've contributed to your failure.
 
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Old 04-20-2009 | 01:30 PM
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It was all the burnouts!
 
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Old 04-20-2009 | 02:47 PM
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Car is being tuned and I am picking it up shortly....Nice to be a couple of milles from the best guys in the business!
EUROCHARGED!

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Old 04-20-2009 | 02:56 PM
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Edited for the better of the forum and only speculations and assumptions on my part. 185 rules. If you quoted me feel free to erase.
 

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Old 04-20-2009 | 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by cruzinquick
Brain it's ok to admit your a little worried too. I ask the tough questions. Whether I like the answers or not. He was already modded before Eurocharged was around. Not knowing his modding history and him posting that EC was repairing sounded alot like a warranty job. He's fortunate to have a Indy so willing to help out. Otherwise the true cost of modding might become a reality for alot of us.

Now really who want's to be the first to post this? The first SC munched never got it's own thread and most of the original deleted. Not many even know. Want to take a guess what pulley was being ran? Yes a 178, you got it right... NOT. Does the pulley have anything to do with it? Only time will tell. Should it be considered in the equation?

I did not follow it too close, but why did all the deleting take place on the “other thread”?
 
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Old 04-20-2009 | 03:06 PM
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Glad to hear it is back up and running, that is pretty fast...my question is with the same tune, pulley, ?meth injection?, etc as before? Hate to see it burn in again without a deffinite result from an autopsy of what smoked the last one.

Originally Posted by RIOT
Car is being tuned and I am picking it up shortly....Nice to be a couple of milles from the best guys in the business!
EUROCHARGED!

k.k.
 
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Old 04-20-2009 | 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by cruzinquick
Brain it's ok to admit your a little worried too. I ask the tough questions. Whether I like the answers or not. He was already modded before Eurocharged was around. Not knowing his modding history and him posting that EC was repairing sounded alot like a warranty job. He's fortunate to have a Indy so willing to help out. Otherwise the true cost of modding might become a reality for alot of us.

Now really who want's to be the first to post this? The first SC munched never got it's own thread and most of the original deleted. Not many even know. Want to take a guess what pulley was being ran? Yes a 178, you got it right... NOT. Does the pulley have anything to do with it? Only time will tell. Should it be considered in the equation?

Not worried in the least CQ!

Been running my SL55/185/Iridum setup for well over a year and 15K miles with not one issue. And many of those at well over 100MPH.

My worries were put to rest when I was in for a dyno tune the weekend after the 185 install and all the issues of running "to lean" and "exploding" SC were discovered to be unfounded. I must admit that I didn't fully appreciate at the data logging and tweaking that went into those 22+ dyno run to get things "right".

But your agenda is noted. Again.
 
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Old 04-20-2009 | 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by cruzinquick
Brain it's ok to admit your a little worried too. I ask the tough questions. Whether I like the answers or not. He was already modded before Eurocharged was around. Not knowing his modding history and him posting that EC was repairing sounded alot like a warranty job. He's fortunate to have a Indy so willing to help out. Otherwise the true cost of modding might become a reality for alot of us.

Now really who want's to be the first to post this? The first SC munched never got it's own thread and most of the original deleted. Not many even know. Want to take a guess what pulley was being ran? Yes a 178, you got it right... NOT. Does the pulley have anything to do with it? Only time will tell. Should it be considered in the equation?
Cruzin it seems to me you have issues with anybody who runs a different set-up then you and the almighty 178 pulley and needswings intake. Superchargers get munched on stock cars, pistons crack on stock cars also. He could have had a piece of carbon dislodge(factory PCV set-up) and cause a hot spot in the piston resulting in this issue. It could have been poor fuel and slow burn that caused the issue. Also it seems that he runs his car abnormally hard so in light of that 40,000 miles on a daily beaten motor is pretty good. You also like to post that the 178 is the fastest set-up, well the fastest car is a 181.
Nobody will know for sure what the actual cause was, there will only be speculation on the cause, most probable will be lean condition and heat, but it may be partially due to a weak alloy mixture on a factory piston(s), poor quality motor oil weak oil pump bad fuel or other contaminants. You can data log all you want it isn't going to stop a motor from blowing if a factory part is weak or an injector sticks open. It only helps to make sure things are where they should be prior to something deciding to let go
 
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Old 04-20-2009 | 05:38 PM
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Kirk, I haven't read the other posts, hope you know I was just teasing...I will look up the other posts and see what happened...it always sound ok when were running together, and as I was usually looking at your exhaust, I saw no smoke.....>>>LOL<<<<
 
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Old 04-20-2009 | 07:11 PM
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Edited for the better of the forum and only speculations and assumptions on my part. 185 rules. If you quoted me feel free to erase
 

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Old 04-20-2009 | 08:00 PM
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I don't run NOS or METH.

There are three scenarios going right now...all have too do with two cylinders going lean.

Pictures are coming also mechanics reply,then will be my reply.

We will never know for sure what happened as there is three variables-bad parts and running on the dyno with said parts,someone other then EURO- working on the car for one day,and my testing the car for 1/4 mile one way and back with the car cold and bad parts on the car.

Patience all will posted and said..let the pictures come out and the story will come.

All said and done the car had 10.000 miles on it with the 185 pulley setup.

Yes I drive my car hard but before me this setup ran 10,000 miles before me on a LET car.

Oh and I was the first LET SRT6.

Oh and lets not forget EURO-stepping up to the plate and supplying me with a new motor!
THAT IS CUSTOMER SERVICE!

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Old 04-20-2009 | 08:21 PM
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Next question was do I have DATALOGS.....nope...only gauges in the car are the stock ones.
I'm sure I'm gonna hear it for that but just giving out the truth in this thread.

Also what mods I have are no secret car is featured on EUROCHARGED.COM

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Old 04-20-2009 | 08:55 PM
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Next question was do I have DATALOGS.....nope...only gauges in the car are the stock ones.
I'm sure I'm gonna hear it for that but just giving out the truth in this thread.

Also what mods I have are no secret car is featured on EUROCHARGED.COM

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Thanks for the update RIOT.

Let me know which cylinder went south, I'll be glad to pull the plugs from that lung, take a few pics and post them on the forum and see what's up....

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Old 04-21-2009 | 12:07 AM
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Thanks for your Infos. It hurts me for every 32 AMG Engine, which goes down south. Good to see that Eurocharged don't leave you alone!!! In my opinion this AMG- Engine is extremely well built and bulletproof.In Germany there are many C32 and SLK32 with a lot more than 200.000KM with one engine. In my opinion its also important whether the ECU-TUNE is a little bit on the conservative side? Good luck and I wish you all the best with your car...
 
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Old 04-21-2009 | 06:55 AM
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Yes my tune is on the conservative side...I run pump gas...
 


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