look i hear some people say that the 185 is more boost which is true but it is not putting the numbers on the board like it should. ok i am going to throw this at you guys and you tell me if i am on the right track.
two big reasons why you are not putting numbers on the board is because lose of traction which can be corrected with a good set of tires. but my main reason is the HEAT PROBLEM. the heat saps the horses right out of our cars and heat in our cars is bad...

my question is could you fix that by not getting into the INTERCOOLER which is alot of work but a cheaper and more efficient way would be replacing the H\E (for those who are confused the intercooler is under the S\C and the H\E is in front of the engine bay.) With that said, the more cheaper way would be to purchase the Needswings upgrades H\E and for kicks put a johnson pump for faster flow...and to top it off we all know how water is a better cooler then our coolant\antifreeze...fill our big needswings H\E with water with the johnson pump..

I think that will take care of the heat problems also it won't burn a hole in our pockets.

so what do you think guys does it sound good or no..i dont know alot about cars but it sounds like a good idea, for me if i upgrade from my code3 to get a 185 i would run this system..

 

Where is Mikey at to answer this!?! :P

 

I've probably had the most issues with overtemping and having the supercharger shutting down.

• In a nutshell I first replaced the stock pump with the Johnson, no difference.
• Drained the cooling system and flushed the HE, no difference.
• Woody suggested that I relocate the HE higher up into the air stream, finally a difference.
• Since then I have been running stacked pulleys and when things started warming up my overtemp issues returned.
• Copied Woody's Super Cooler and separated the cooling systems, NO PROBLEMS AT ALL!

I'm all about keeping cool! I HATE when the supercharger shuts off!

 

You're also forgetting about the fueling problems like running lean.

 

for the lean issue could you just get a ecu tune or get bigger fuel injecters...just throwing stuff out there if it makes any sence

 

Just read the thread 178/181/185 and you'll get all the info you need. If not then read all of 240's thread and that should sum it up.

 

if you upgrade the heat exchanger and the IC pump, then the bottleneck becomes the intercooler and it gets backed up. best not to greatly increase the flow I/C fluid with a stronger/larger IC pump until intercooler is upgraded or larger.

 

What would be really nice to see is a 185, Supercooler and this:

https://www.crossfireforum.org/forum/showthread.php?t=32929

See what this setup would put out.

 

true story, just not sure if it would fit. that y pipe is huge

 

Of course it will fit its already been done. Second version comming soon...with supercooler.

 

Got a few things out of the way, and this weekend Iam going to get on the rollers to get a baseline for my car. Next week I will be pulling the 178 off to go all the way to 185 and then after a week or more of goofing, Ill go back to the same dyno to get a power delta between them.

I will be getting my data logger on it also so that the data can be evaluated. I will also get a A/F reading in addition to my on board sensors. So after I get it all together Ol Woodeye will bring it to ya for review, Ta Da.

I have a few tricks waiting for the 185 setup and will see how much I can do with it. Iwill say that heat is not an issue and will defend that belief with data and charts. Brian Brave had a well put comment on the heat and I support it fully. When I get the chance Ill be at MIR again with the crowd to run it also for thoes that want each method of checking real power.

Good Bad or indifferent, Ill give you the real deal as I always try to do. So there is something to look forward to, assuming that your a shut in of have no other life..................smile

Woody

 

ok so just with a 185 just put a supercooler in and not a johnson pump. no johnsonpump to increase flow beacause you dont want bottleneck...

should this do the trick for heat problems...i just cant imagine everyone getting into alot of money and work to upgrade a intercooler..i dont want to seem lazy but time and money is tight these days.

 

Actually, I think Jturkel was referring to a C32 which we both have, since it has so much less room against the back firewall.

 

yah my bad. sorry about that lack of clarification