My 181 install experience. Boost levels + concerns & thoughts
Re: My 181 install experience. Boost levels + concerns & thoughts
Originally Posted by MD SRT6
Sorry to disagree but I run a clean 12.5 all the way to redline, with enough fuel to supply my wet shot of nitrous all the way to a 150 shot. Stock fuel pump and stock injectors. With a run of 10.71 @ 131mph =??HP. + With no Juice 11.59 @ 122 = ??hp. I have over five ecu chips that I can switch out depending on what type of gas, nitrous or not I'm running, And have never run lean, I think you guys are missing some vital tuning parameters that can be unlocked!? How many hp does it take to run above numbers? check it out on a hp calculater! I haven't dyno'd in a while but have put up well over 400 to the wheels with all stock fuel components. And I believe our stock injectors are 42#? Psi 55? Not sure about the volume though, but looking at my numbers, I'd say good enough! Please don't start banging me out, this is just my factual experience.
Are you running your car in 50 degree or colder weather?
What AF gauge are you running and exactly where is the sensor mounted?
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Re: My 181 install experience. Boost levels + concerns & thoughts
Originally Posted by MD SRT6
Sorry to disagree but I run a clean 12.5 all the way to redline, with enough fuel to supply my wet shot of nitrous all the way to a 150 shot. Stock fuel pump and stock injectors. With a run of 10.71 @ 131mph =??HP. + With no Juice 11.59 @ 122 = ??hp. I have over five ecu chips that I can switch out depending on what type of gas, nitrous or not I'm running, And have never run lean, I think you guys are missing some vital tuning parameters that can be unlocked!? How many hp does it take to run above numbers? check it out on a hp calculater! I haven't dyno'd in a while but have put up well over 400 to the wheels with all stock fuel components. And I believe our stock injectors are 42#? Psi 55? Not sure about the volume though, but looking at my numbers, I'd say good enough! Please don't start banging me out, this is just my factual experience.
Isn't your kit WET though? Injectors covering the extra needed fuel would really only be a concern on a dry kit. The fuel solenoid takes cars of the added fuel for the nitrous. In that case the fuel pump would be the determining factor.
Re: My 181 install experience. Boost levels + concerns & thoughts
Some of you may have seen on a different thread that I installed a custom-built 190.5 pulley. I had my intake manifolds off a few days ago, and I'm still running rich -- black tailpipes, raw fuel odor in intake passages. So I don't think injectors are too much of a concern, although that's been one of my main concerns. I'm installing methanol/water injection soon, which will ease that problem, if it exists.
I installed a boost gauge this weekend, and I'm running just over 20 psi max with the 190.5 pulley alone.
And no, I don't have my tune yet, either. I'm going to get the methanol/water injection installed, then get the tune to take into consideration all the mods I've made.
I'm interested in videos of SRT-6's with sound. From those I've heard, mine runs MUCH quieter, and I'm trying to get a sense of whether it's mine or the louder ones I've heard that are the anomaly?
I installed a boost gauge this weekend, and I'm running just over 20 psi max with the 190.5 pulley alone.
And no, I don't have my tune yet, either. I'm going to get the methanol/water injection installed, then get the tune to take into consideration all the mods I've made.
I'm interested in videos of SRT-6's with sound. From those I've heard, mine runs MUCH quieter, and I'm trying to get a sense of whether it's mine or the louder ones I've heard that are the anomaly?
Re: My 181 install experience. Boost levels + concerns & thoughts
Originally Posted by dwafford
Some of you may have seen on a different thread that I installed a custom-built 190.5 pulley. I had my intake manifolds off a few days ago, and I'm still running rich -- black tailpipes, raw fuel odor in intake passages. So I don't think injectors are too much of a concern, although that's been one of my main concerns. I'm installing methanol/water injection soon, which will ease that problem, if it exists.
I installed a boost gauge this weekend, and I'm running just over 20 psi max with the 190.5 pulley alone.
And no, I don't have my tune yet, either. I'm going to get the methanol/water injection installed, then get the tune to take into consideration all the mods I've made.
I'm interested in videos of SRT-6's with sound. From those I've heard, mine runs MUCH quieter, and I'm trying to get a sense of whether it's mine or the louder ones I've heard that are the anomaly?
I installed a boost gauge this weekend, and I'm running just over 20 psi max with the 190.5 pulley alone.
And no, I don't have my tune yet, either. I'm going to get the methanol/water injection installed, then get the tune to take into consideration all the mods I've made.
I'm interested in videos of SRT-6's with sound. From those I've heard, mine runs MUCH quieter, and I'm trying to get a sense of whether it's mine or the louder ones I've heard that are the anomaly?
My exhaust is stock and I consider it to be very quite too. Was thinking of changing it but it's more fun to woop up on someone without all of the drama of screaming exhaust.
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Re: My 181 install experience. Boost levels + concerns & thoughts
I only have a few hundred miles on the 190.5 pulley. Seems generally to run richer since installation, but I don't have an A/F installed. I kind of think that the ECU, not being pre-programmed for so much boost, is over-compensating. Will be interesting to see when I get the tune.
The noise I was referring to (sorry, you hadn't seen my earlier posts) was not exhaust noise, but engine/supercharger noise. Mine is so quiet that others swore I didn't have a S/C! And similarly, when I took off the stock intakes and installed only high-performance cone filters (straight to the y-piece, so no silencing whatsoever), I got no more intake noise, while others also said they experienced a noticeable difference.
The noise I was referring to (sorry, you hadn't seen my earlier posts) was not exhaust noise, but engine/supercharger noise. Mine is so quiet that others swore I didn't have a S/C! And similarly, when I took off the stock intakes and installed only high-performance cone filters (straight to the y-piece, so no silencing whatsoever), I got no more intake noise, while others also said they experienced a noticeable difference.
Re: My 181 install experience. Boost levels + concerns & thoughts
Originally Posted by MD SRT6
Sorry to disagree but I run a clean 12.5 all the way to redline, with enough fuel to supply my wet shot of nitrous all the way to a 150 shot. Stock fuel pump and stock injectors. With a run of 10.71 @ 131mph =??HP. + With no Juice 11.59 @ 122 = ??hp. I have over five ecu chips that I can switch out depending on what type of gas, nitrous or not I'm running, And have never run lean, I think you guys are missing some vital tuning parameters that can be unlocked!? How many hp does it take to run above numbers? check it out on a hp calculater! I haven't dyno'd in a while but have put up well over 400 to the wheels with all stock fuel components. And I believe our stock injectors are 42#? Psi 55? Not sure about the volume though, but looking at my numbers, I'd say good enough! Please don't start banging me out, this is just my factual experience.
Just curious.
Re: My 181 install experience. Boost levels + concerns & thoughts
Originally Posted by TVT_DESIGN
Isn't your kit WET though? Injectors covering the extra needed fuel would really only be a concern on a dry kit. The fuel solenoid takes cars of the added fuel for the nitrous. In that case the fuel pump would be the determining factor.
Re: My 181 install experience. Boost levels + concerns & thoughts
Originally Posted by 240M3SRT
Im on an LET tune. IIRC you are running an inmotion tune, right?
Are you running your car in 50 degree or colder weather?
What AF gauge are you running and exactly where is the sensor mounted?
Are you running your car in 50 degree or colder weather?
What AF gauge are you running and exactly where is the sensor mounted?
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Re: My 181 install experience. Boost levels + concerns & thoughts
Originally Posted by MD SRT6
Inmotion tune+ piggy, FJO wideband right after warm up cat straight into datalogger. Been running the car for a year now, through lots of temp ranges, many tunes , many mods, and have allways been able to keep it in the safe range. My only point is before we all just assume the injectors are the problem, more research is necessary. Our injectors are HUGE as far as modding goes, I don't know of many cars that have bigger injectors, even on big hp V-8's. If anyone can name some cars with bigger than 42 lb. injectors please let me know.
I'm pretty sure the stock injectors are 34.8ish lbs but run at 44ish due to the 4 bar fuel pressure.
Re: My 181 install experience. Boost levels + concerns & thoughts
Here is a nice fuel injector calculator:
http://www.witchhunter.com/injectorcalc1.php4
shows lb to cc and volume required for hp level and so on.
http://www.witchhunter.com/injectorcalc1.php4
shows lb to cc and volume required for hp level and so on.
Re: My 181 install experience. Boost levels + concerns & thoughts
...I'm pretty sure the stock injectors are 34.8ish lbs but run at 44ish due to the 4 bar fuel pressure.
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