Our IC sits below the SC in the valley. I now some people have entertained a thought of seperating the IC from the SC. But as far as I know the cost verse performance increase negated this mod. So other means, larger HE, alocohol injection have been done. So it is not an easy task, but if you want to attempt it all of us would be interested in the outcome. Keep us posted. My 93TT RX7 has an easy task, it is front mounted and much easier of a mod.

 

lol wow you posted some photos that is fantastic!

 

Hey mrphotoman I'm surprised you didn't tell me to search for it!!!

I knew about the Summit radiator but you kinda made it sound like he was selling them so I had to clairify. .

From a previous post of mine...
Found it, Summitpart number SUM-380645
http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?autofilter=1&part=SUM%2D380645&N=70 0+0&autoview=sku

And if you wanted the entire thread...
https://www.crossfireforum.org/forum...ad.php?t=28137

 

you can have one custom made for under $300, pm me if you want the info.

 

Yeah, saw those in the above thread. VERY pretty!
Are you currently running that setup? How's it work for ya?

 

no, i am running the stock cooling system on the car. I am adding alcohol injection in the next month or two.

 

I am getting into this a bit late, but the H/E I worked up was to assist the IAT by providing additional water flow at a much lower temperature. It is very big for the job and thats because I am tinkering with post intercooler cooling. Last nite I was enjoying a phone conversation with a LONG TIME racer AMX1397 who is gonna eclipse all of us, guess what...he is looking at going post I/C cooler also but thats another story.

I would like to hear from others including Dr. Brian regarding the existing I/C. We have all noticed the oil vapor getting into the intake and my question is this: Has anyone undertaken the task of washing or spraying the I/C to clean it of oil? It would seem that the oil film would act as an insulator to heat transfer between the air and water circuits.

I have thought that spraying fluid such as water, alcohol, or window washer fluid while the car is run. The thought of having to tear the I/C out seems like too much work. Your ideas please.

For the H/E and the dual inlet Cold Air Inlet, and a new high flow (low restriction ) Vapor separator to eliminate the above concerns; they are planned to be on the market soon. Rob of Needswings has been tolerating my antics and listening to my thoughts on these items and is planning to release them when perfected to his high standards. ( Remember the felt on the horn bracket with his CAI kit...a detail kind of guy). I get to play in the sand box while he has to do this stuff as his job.

Vapor separator photos as a teaser for your christmas list....

Low restriction and easy drain features

Enjoy Woody

 

Nice nice! Thanks for the reply.
Id think a post cooler would be the way to go, the stock IC setup is pretty weak at best from what I have seen.

Seriously, why sandwhich something like that in the hottest part of the block, just to cover it with a hot supercharger?

LOL.

BTW, I have read several of your posts, they all seem very informative, keep it up and thanks for sharing.

 

Leave it to Woody to be drawn into a discussion about cooling or heating!
Like a moth to a flame!

 

Woody - Thanks for the promotion!

I have had my S/C and IC completely torn down. Removal is not a very difficult task. At that time I took my IC to a radiator shop to be cleaned.

There was what I would consider a good amount of blow-by oil - but being that we use synthetic oil - it was not the caked on sludge type of coating that you might see on your on the bottom of your oil pan.

I decided at that time to use Brandon’s design for an air/oil separator and while it is effective - at high RPM's it was not relieving crank case pressure and the oil dip stick would slightly dislodge and oil would dribble out and down the tube.

As you suggested Woody - I went with a thicker o-ring on the dip stick and I even tie-wrapped the dip stick in place. This solved the problem - but I still worried about built-up crank case pressure. So I re-connected the larger breather tube from the DS valve cover to the SL55 (or SRT6) Y throttle body tube that I had capped off and left the two smaller tubes connect to the oil/Air separator. I still trap a fair amount of oil - but I figure I'm still getting some blow-by at WOT.

I would not want to spray any cleaner thru the SC and take a chance of damaging the Teflon coating on the S/C screws..

I also decided to heat wrap that puppy to try and prevent heat soak from the e engine. I do think the wrap is effective in prolonging and even preventing the engine from cooking the IC casing - but the heat generated from the SC mounting points still soaks through.

I look forward to seeing more of your separator and who well it will work when at WOT....

 

I would think that a post cooler would only add travel distance for the charge air prior to entering the intake plenums causing spool and boost pressure issues.

My AIT gauge show's pretty tame temps with my set up. Not sure how much closer to outside air temps one can get without refrigeration and spending massive $$$.

 

"DR Brian" to get to the IC how many gaskets or parts need to be on hand to do the re-install?
(ie. gaskets, seals)
I recall a post by you when you went into the IC removal/install did it include a step-by-step procedure by chance?
Thanks Doc.

 

Yea, you put some work into that setup. there. Read over that thread earlier today.

 

Here ya go. https://www.crossfireforum.org/forum/search.php

 

Dude, I can't believe you just did that after what you just went through today trying to get assistance.

I even gave you links!

 

I was joking.
Hence the and the

 

Five (or seven)- I never reuse gaskets...

Qty of 1 - S/C to IC gasket - mine also had a fair bit of black silicone used - so I did the same on re-install.
Qty of 2 - S/C to Engine block gaskets
Qty of 2 (or 4) Plenum to SC gaskets (use four if you have plenum spacers installed)

The step-by-step instructions are in the manual (found on the forum) and are actually pretty good. Refer to the torque settings that are found in a table in the engine section. (don't over torque now) It just a heavy awkward bear to lift into the engine bay.

 

Now to see if my dealer has the gaskets, NOT!
I actually have the manual in paper, imagine that!
Guess this will be a good time to finally use the hood in the 90 degree position!
Thanks!

 

Ok i have noticed this many many times over the past few months. The heat exchanger that is in front of the car and the intercooler under the supercharger are two different units. Will poeple stop confusing the heat exchanger with the intercooler?

L.E.T. makes a bigger heat exchanger not intercooler, Waldigs massive radiator under his bumper is a heat exchanger, the only person that has even mentioned building an upgraded intercooler was Code3. I hope this clears up some of the confusion.

If someone could make a blow up diagram of where the two units are located to put words into pictures that would be great .

 

https://www.crossfireforum.org/forum...4&postcount=14