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Old 10-13-2008 | 10:18 PM
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so we have been getting a driveline thump at the top of 1st gear at WOT for some time now, we had adjusted the carrier bearing a few times to try and remedy it with limited sucess, we have shimmed the trans mount in several configurations with no sucess. finally when installing the new exh setup on friday we found the issue that had revealed itself.

dodge will not sell just the carrier bearing/mount separelty without buying a $1200 driveshaft. mercedes does however, we were unable to find a slk32 bearing/mount locally friday but after hours of looking thru the parts database and pulling parts up to compare we did find a clk setup that did fit for us.

i woudl feel a thumping under the center counsil at the top of 1st gear due to the 2 piece driveshaft not spinning straight.

check the attached pictures, the mount casing is supposed to be a circle :0
 
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Old 10-13-2008 | 10:34 PM
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what in the world happened to it? was it like that from the factory you think? or do you think the car ran over something very large?
 
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Old 10-13-2008 | 10:35 PM
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It was probably pretty stiff from sitting around all these years. Sounds like a good part number to have on hand for the future.
 
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Old 10-13-2008 | 10:37 PM
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I'm guesing its from a "Dukes of hazard type stunt" =P
 
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Old 10-13-2008 | 10:46 PM
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what in the world happened to it? was it like that from the factory you think? or do you think the car ran over something very large?
nothing hit it, destroyed from torque
 
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Old 10-13-2008 | 10:48 PM
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and i figured the dinky rear axles would have been the first thing to go
 
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Old 10-14-2008 | 03:18 AM
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That makes sense.

This is a common problem on 2 piece driveshafts. Centrifugal force is always trying to make the driveshaft wobble, and to a certain minute degree, it always is.

Good find.......I think more than a few people are going to go out and check their driveshafts now!
 
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Old 10-14-2008 | 03:55 AM
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I think I was experiencing this as well. I thought it might have been my exhaust. How hard is this to change out and how much?
 
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Old 10-14-2008 | 05:21 AM
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That is very similar to the problem I had on my F250. It is the long bed with extended cab and has a two piece drive shaft with carrier bearing. The carrier was going bad and I didnt know it and it wore out the U joint on the shaft and it came apart while I was pulling a hill with my travel trailer. That was a pisser. But 4 wheel drive is good to have at a time like that.

Glad you found it.

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Old 10-14-2008 | 05:43 AM
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What I find incredible, is a car this "short" needs a 2 piece driveshaft.
I'm glad I have on of those "underpowered" NA cars.
 
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Old 10-14-2008 | 09:41 AM
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thanks Rob.
 
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Old 10-14-2008 | 05:09 PM
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I have that same style setup on my little turbo D50 4x4..................except the bushing was COMPLETELY gone and the driveshaft would just flop around in the metal "band" that was left.
 
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Old 10-14-2008 | 05:17 PM
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had a old Ford pick up the the carrier bushing gone also amde some noise lol
 
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Old 10-14-2008 | 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by NeedsWings
so we have been getting a driveline thump at the top of 1st gear at WOT for some time now, we had adjusted the carrier bearing a few times to try and remedy it with limited sucess, we have shimmed the trans mount in several configurations with no sucess. finally when installing the new exh setup on friday we found the issue that had revealed itself.

dodge will not sell just the carrier bearing/mount separelty without buying a $1200 driveshaft. mercedes does however, we were unable to find a slk32 bearing/mount locally friday but after hours of looking thru the parts database and pulling parts up to compare we did find a clk setup that did fit for us. id recommend the slk part tho as the mounting tabs were slightly different on the clk but still usable if you can wait.

i woudl feel a thumping under the center counsil at the top of 1st gear due to the 2 piece driveshaft not spinning straight.

check the attached pictures, the mount casing is supposed to be a circle :0
Thanks for the tip Rob, I'm gonna get one and keep it in the truck for a spare, that could really ruin someones day if it completely let go.
 
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Old 10-14-2008 | 05:47 PM
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ill get a quote tomorrow for the replacement part thru our mercedes discount and see if our discount + shipping is cheaper then you guys going to a benz dealer and paying list
 
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Old 10-14-2008 | 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted by +fireamx
What I find incredible, is a car this "short" needs a 2 piece driveshaft.
I'm glad I have on of those "underpowered" NA cars.
The 2-piece driveshaft is a cost-cutting measure.

A single-piece driveshaft would have two u-joints, one at the transmission and one at the differential.

The 2-piece driveshaft only has one u-joint, and the connections at the transmission and differential are basically just blocks of rubber.

As a piece of trivia, the blocks of rubber are called "Guibos"
 
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Old 10-14-2008 | 06:40 PM
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That is the same thing that the Land Rover uses instead of U-joints. The owner of the shop I use showed me one. Interesting......

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Old 10-14-2008 | 06:58 PM
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I didn't know Land Rover used them, I learn something new every day

The sad thing is that Guibos, being rubber, wear out. Fortunately they are cheap.

By the way, thanks for sharing the info, needswings!!
 
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Old 10-16-2008 | 12:05 PM
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any updates Rob? I don't know if I should take it in to the dealer or do it myself?
 
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Old 10-16-2008 | 12:50 PM
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ok, we found that the new one we used is a stronger mount then the replacement slk32 part. i didnt snap a picture of it before we installed it so i'll wait until we get another in for the picture to add to our website but if ya want one now let me knwo and ill get them ordered for you guys.
 

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