JR-Industries single, dual and triple pillar pods
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Re: JR-Industries single, dual and triple pillar pods
Originally Posted by jonnyangel04
...which equates to about $11 dollars an hour for fiberglass...
Think of the bigger picture—you would have no more out of pocket expenses.
I attached a mag clip of one of the SW Graphics magazine's 10 mistakes companies make in pricing their products or services.
As you can probably tell I want one but cannot justify that price. It is half the cost of a Code3 pulley!
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Originally Posted by msheredy
That is more or less my point—you would no longer have to "work" to make the product. By licensing your template you would in turn open up your market to more than just this forum. Getting your terms would be the hardest part but pretty much you could get royalties for each unit sold.
Think of the bigger picture—you would have no more out of pocket expenses.
I attached a mag clip of one of the SW Graphics magazine's 10 mistakes companies make in pricing their products or services.
As you can probably tell I want one but cannot justify that price. It is half the cost of a Code3 pulley!
Think of the bigger picture—you would have no more out of pocket expenses.
I attached a mag clip of one of the SW Graphics magazine's 10 mistakes companies make in pricing their products or services.
As you can probably tell I want one but cannot justify that price. It is half the cost of a Code3 pulley!
Re: JR-Industries single, dual and triple pillar pods
Originally Posted by msheredy
That is more or less my point—you would no longer have to "work" to make the product. By licensing your template you would in turn open up your market to more than just this forum. Getting your terms would be the hardest part but pretty much you could get royalties for each unit sold.
Think of the bigger picture—you would have no more out of pocket expenses.
I attached a mag clip of one of the SW Graphics magazine's 10 mistakes companies make in pricing their products or services.
As you can probably tell I want one but cannot justify that price. It is half the cost of a Code3 pulley!
Think of the bigger picture—you would have no more out of pocket expenses.
I attached a mag clip of one of the SW Graphics magazine's 10 mistakes companies make in pricing their products or services.
As you can probably tell I want one but cannot justify that price. It is half the cost of a Code3 pulley!
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Re: JR-Industries single, dual and triple pillar pods
Biggest things that kept us not goign the mass production way, number of real buyers, quality, price.
Number of real buyers - Most people say they want one until it's time to place their order. This isn't for this forum, it's for life in general. People dream about what things would be like if they had them and say, yeah, I'd buy that. think abotu the last time you say some racey supercar pass you out o nteh highway. COOL, I'd buy one of them... someday. These pillars are the supercars of pillar pods. Hand made like an AMG engine. One guy does each one.
Quality - cheap plastic vs work or art... The ones being made right now are just that, a work of art. You look inside a honda civic and it's just some cheap plastic made out of crush recycled plastic. You look in these cars with one of these pillars and if your heart doesn't skip a beat, you probably need to go see a doctor.
Price - To give you an idea if we did mass produce these, we'd need at minimum 1000 people to say, we'll buy one and put up the money to do it and then, we'd be breaking even. This doesn't even take into account the amount of time to go from paper to your car.
Don't take what I say as me being cynical and I'm not trying to come off brash. I'm just trying to drive home the point that these are something special and being point blank, until JonnyAngel04 got his feet wet with this, there were no pillar pods for the Crossfire. True story.
Number of real buyers - Most people say they want one until it's time to place their order. This isn't for this forum, it's for life in general. People dream about what things would be like if they had them and say, yeah, I'd buy that. think abotu the last time you say some racey supercar pass you out o nteh highway. COOL, I'd buy one of them... someday. These pillars are the supercars of pillar pods. Hand made like an AMG engine. One guy does each one.
Quality - cheap plastic vs work or art... The ones being made right now are just that, a work of art. You look inside a honda civic and it's just some cheap plastic made out of crush recycled plastic. You look in these cars with one of these pillars and if your heart doesn't skip a beat, you probably need to go see a doctor.
Price - To give you an idea if we did mass produce these, we'd need at minimum 1000 people to say, we'll buy one and put up the money to do it and then, we'd be breaking even. This doesn't even take into account the amount of time to go from paper to your car.
Don't take what I say as me being cynical and I'm not trying to come off brash. I'm just trying to drive home the point that these are something special and being point blank, until JonnyAngel04 got his feet wet with this, there were no pillar pods for the Crossfire. True story.
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Re: JR-Industries single, dual and triple pillar pods
Originally Posted by SRT6-Man
Just curious, why justify $500 bills for the CAI?
Originally Posted by SRT6-Man
I know it sucks but, if you want to play you gotta pay!
Once again guys I'm not knocking your product, just your pricing structure
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lol this thread just turned into a business class!
Re: JR-Industries single, dual and triple pillar pods
[quote=msheredy]Are you serious? It is proven to increase horsepower and torque. Plus I was one of the first adopters and agreed to do a write up on the installation and overall opinion. I have no problem with the cost of the performance parts out there. }}You could of of bought some pvc piping and rubber hose and a K&N filter and did it for half the cost! The reason you have NWI, is because it was crafted with many hours and time spent in the design, which in return, looks like it belongs in the SRT. You may not get 20 hp out of a pillar pod, but sure will turn some heads when they see it.
The only thing that sucks about these cars, is seeing my creditcard statement!
The only thing that sucks about these cars, is seeing my creditcard statement!
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I have to bite, lol lets not take any of these comments as us defending our products but more or less explaining why they cost the way they do...... Now that, that is clear
Like RC is saying this only exist because I took a chance and to be completely honest I almost failed miserably. I exceeded the money that was put up by other members almost a week in. That is no joke. I took my own money to make this work and to keep trying other options until we got it right. We looked into the plastic route for our center console thinking who doesn’t want a decent navigation Dvd player in there car? They quoted us 4k, we talked with them and then talked with another company and they were like we can have it in your hands for 15k. !!!!!!! AFTER reading the fine print 4k was the initial cost and they are able to jack the price up or keep adding cost as much as they want until you actually have the product. They use that false promise to get you in the door.
When I say we have not had an unhappy customer I mean it. Most people who have seen these in person want one right away ASAP. It takes me about 2-4 weeks to make these and I am charging next to nothing for my time because I know no one would pay $600 for a pillar and then $90 dollar an hour custom fiberglass price.
Lastly if we can get a group buy of 10 more people together we could maybe work on the price depending on how many people were going to have the same color sprayed. But like RC said most ask and then I never hear back from them.
The half the price of a pulley is true, but don’t you want to be monitoring what you are running? I have the NEEDSwings intake as well as the renntech pulley. Its a no brainier that the intake goes with the pulley and then the tune, then the heat exchanger and so on. I can’t believe people are more then willing to do all of this, spend a lot of money and then not monitor their engine, the most important part. For those who were before they were drilling holes in there dash and mounting gauges to their pillars as if they were strapping them to roll cage of their drag car. Not a clean look for a luxury sports car.
The NWI is about $80 worth of tubing, two silicone elbows, two welds and a $40 K&N filter Everyone knows that even I knew that, yet I was more then happy to pick one up because everyone else had one and I know the time that was put into it for our cars it is beautiful and belongs. The renntech pulley I got for a deal $1000 dollars I believe, I bought it because I had to have it again hearing how much difference a little more boost makes. Now you can get the same experience for $600 am I kicking myself? No, The market is ever changing for this car and the excitement is great. We have a few tricks up our sleeves with stuff you guys thought you would never see or be able to do with a crossfire so hang on.
Like RC is saying this only exist because I took a chance and to be completely honest I almost failed miserably. I exceeded the money that was put up by other members almost a week in. That is no joke. I took my own money to make this work and to keep trying other options until we got it right. We looked into the plastic route for our center console thinking who doesn’t want a decent navigation Dvd player in there car? They quoted us 4k, we talked with them and then talked with another company and they were like we can have it in your hands for 15k. !!!!!!! AFTER reading the fine print 4k was the initial cost and they are able to jack the price up or keep adding cost as much as they want until you actually have the product. They use that false promise to get you in the door.
When I say we have not had an unhappy customer I mean it. Most people who have seen these in person want one right away ASAP. It takes me about 2-4 weeks to make these and I am charging next to nothing for my time because I know no one would pay $600 for a pillar and then $90 dollar an hour custom fiberglass price.
Lastly if we can get a group buy of 10 more people together we could maybe work on the price depending on how many people were going to have the same color sprayed. But like RC said most ask and then I never hear back from them.
The half the price of a pulley is true, but don’t you want to be monitoring what you are running? I have the NEEDSwings intake as well as the renntech pulley. Its a no brainier that the intake goes with the pulley and then the tune, then the heat exchanger and so on. I can’t believe people are more then willing to do all of this, spend a lot of money and then not monitor their engine, the most important part. For those who were before they were drilling holes in there dash and mounting gauges to their pillars as if they were strapping them to roll cage of their drag car. Not a clean look for a luxury sports car.
The NWI is about $80 worth of tubing, two silicone elbows, two welds and a $40 K&N filter Everyone knows that even I knew that, yet I was more then happy to pick one up because everyone else had one and I know the time that was put into it for our cars it is beautiful and belongs. The renntech pulley I got for a deal $1000 dollars I believe, I bought it because I had to have it again hearing how much difference a little more boost makes. Now you can get the same experience for $600 am I kicking myself? No, The market is ever changing for this car and the excitement is great. We have a few tricks up our sleeves with stuff you guys thought you would never see or be able to do with a crossfire so hang on.
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Re: JR-Industries single, dual and triple pillar pods
Originally Posted by SRT6-Man
You could of of bought some pvc piping and rubber hose and a K&N filter and did it for half the cost! The reason you have NWI, is because it was crafted with many hours and time spent in the design, which in return, looks like it belongs in the SRT. You may not get 20 hp out of a pillar pod, but sure will turn some heads when they see it. The only thing that sucks about these cars, is seeing my creditcard statement!
The only thing that sucks about these cars, is seeing my creditcard statement!
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Re: JR-Industries single, dual and triple pillar pods
Originally Posted by msheredy
I'd hardly call buying a pillar pod "playing"... it does nothing more than house gauges. Am I the only one scratching my head when I see a machined stainless steel supercharger pulley with all new hardware that costs twice as much as a pillar pod???
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Re: JR-Industries single, dual and triple pillar pods
Originally Posted by msheredy
NWI and pillar pod is apples to oranges. It's like talking to a brink wall, and I'm sure the feeling is mutual, but I refuse to spend that much on one.
Wait till you all see MIKERs set up, HE went all out both pillars and custom gauges, it shouldnt be much longer here I just saw them, that AERO blue always knocks me off my feet.
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Re: JR-Industries single, dual and triple pillar pods
I'm actually surprised that Maxwell hasn't shown up on this post since he offered injection molding to Rob at Needswings.
https://www.crossfireforum.org/forum...2&postcount=41
I'm not sure if this would fall in the same process... Maxwell?
https://www.crossfireforum.org/forum...2&postcount=41
I'm not sure if this would fall in the same process... Maxwell?
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Re: JR-Industries single, dual and triple pillar pods
Originally Posted by msheredy
I'm actually surprised that Maxwell hasn't shown up on this post since he offered injection molding to Rob at Needswings.
https://www.crossfireforum.org/forum...2&postcount=41
I'm not sure if this would fall in the same process... Maxwell?
https://www.crossfireforum.org/forum...2&postcount=41
I'm not sure if this would fall in the same process... Maxwell?
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Re: JR-Industries single, dual and triple pillar pods
jonny, you are on my list of "must buy" but as you know...you have to set a budget for these cars, or you would be broke in no time...I will be a customer rest assured....waiting on your selection of guages, and material...you mentioned covering them w/ headliner cloth...that I might like..so I am standing by until I can purchase....
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Originally Posted by oledoc2u
jonny, you are on my list of "must buy" but as you know...you have to set a budget for these cars, or you would be broke in no time...I will be a customer rest assured....waiting on your selection of guages, and material...you mentioned covering them w/ headliner cloth...that I might like..so I am standing by until I can purchase....