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Old 03-26-2009 | 10:18 PM
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Cubic Dollar > cubic inch
 
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Old 03-26-2009 | 11:04 PM
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Originally Posted by MD SRT6
Absolutely, hey I'm not trying to be negative , just saying once you get down into the 11's every tenth is a HUGE deal ! And 10's without some serious engine work and or a different/extra power adder ain't happening. But 11's are pretty serious times, this puts you out there with the big boys ! And is something to be very proud of. A 10.75 second pass @ 125mph in a 3400lb. car requires about 500hp at the wheels versus a 11.95 pass @ 117mph in a 3400lb. car requires 360hp at the wheels. You see my point? Not trying to be a ****, just trying to help some that may not understand that. Where are the 140hp gonna come from? I predict one new person will hit the 10 second mark this year and he'll be spraying nitrous.( BDJ's Racing ) Besides, not everybody want to go that fast, it's hard on the car for one, different DA's to deal with,gotta do a roll cage/bar and run slicks, then you gotta get a trailer etc.... Sorry for the rambling. Later !
So are you saying my 11.89 pass was more than 360 at the wheels? I tell everyone I have 350 at the flywheel. They believe me too.
 
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Old 03-27-2009 | 11:28 AM
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So are you saying my 11.89 pass was more than 360 at the wheels? I tell everyone I have 350 at the flywheel. They believe me too.
If you calculate the power required to move your car that distance in that amount of time, it comes out to 407.7 whp (ignoring air resistance and roll resistance).
 
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Old 03-27-2009 | 03:48 PM
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If you calculate the power required to move your car that distance in that amount of time, it comes out to 407.7 whp (ignoring air resistance and roll resistance).
Thanks Tom. 350 sounds so much more naive.
 
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Old 03-27-2009 | 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted by cruzinquick
So are you saying my 11.89 pass was more than 360 at the wheels? I tell everyone I have 350 at the flywheel. They believe me too.
Cruizin, your probably laying down about 365-375 at the wheels with that run . Dyno's are only good for before / after mods and tuning, nothing else. There are so many variations on how they compute the info, some are way high and some painfully low. Use google and go to five different hp calculators then average them out, somewhere in there is the truth based on car + driver weight, trap time method & ET method. And it's alot more fun + cheaper. By the way I can't wait to get back to the track, it is open now over here, but rained every weekend for the last three. Soon, Soon,I Pray ! ( But keep telling everyone 350 at the flywheel anyway ! Leave a couple tenths in the bag and hit them brakes )
 
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Old 03-28-2009 | 10:39 AM
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comparing back 1/8 times is the best way to compare HP in my opinion (obviously wthout a dyno)
 
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Old 03-28-2009 | 11:09 AM
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......I can't wait to get back to the track, it is open now over here, but rained every weekend for the last three. Soon, Soon,I Pray ! ....)
Jeff, sadly that is my problem too....raining again today....a chance of some dry weather tomorrow....

MikeR
 
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Old 04-13-2009 | 10:38 PM
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flow sheet...
 
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Old 04-13-2009 | 11:46 PM
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flow sheet...
So how much HP would that airflow support? Roughly...
 
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Old 04-14-2009 | 03:14 PM
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Very interesting flow results. First, it looks like flow doesn't even start to stall out until almost .500" lift. That says that for best results, any cam that goes in there should have .500" max lift or better. Secondly, intake to exhaust (I/E) flow ratio is (roughly) 66% before and 66% after. That's ok and can be corrected for with a cam that has roughly 8-12 more degrees exhaust duration than intake. Lastly, from the intake flow numbers, the max hp that can be supported by a particular head flow is roughly 1.5 times (for 6 cyl) the flow at .500" lift and 28" water, or 1.5 x 300 (after) = 450 hp, given that the cam is big enough. The before number is 1.5 x 280 or 420 hp, so the hp potential has increased by ~30 hp from porting. Those numbers are from N/A engines so a S/C will have different results.
 
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Old 04-14-2009 | 06:28 PM
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Thanks for the great photos. Is the valve train and piston confiqureation the same on the standard engine without the turbo.
 
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Old 04-14-2009 | 06:36 PM
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Thanks for th great photos, I wondered if the valve train and piston confiquration was the same on a standard engine.
 
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Old 04-14-2009 | 09:08 PM
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not sure if the n/a heads are the same or not, we havent pulled one to look.

does anyone have the stock cam specs? we flowed up to 500 but i doubt our cams are that big, does shricks cams have specs?
 
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Old 04-16-2009 | 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by james malek
Thanks for the great photos. Is the valve train and piston confiqureation the same on the standard engine without the turbo.

I'll go ahead and nominate this post for "LULZ of the Week."


James my friend, that is what we call a "gross conceptual error."
 
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